14:59:54 #startmeeting Fedora QA Meeting 14:59:54 Meeting started Mon Jun 15 14:59:54 2020 UTC. 14:59:54 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 14:59:54 The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:59:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:59:54 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_qa_meeting' 15:00:02 #meetingname fedora-qa 15:00:02 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa' 15:00:08 #topic Roll call 15:00:17 morning folks! how's everyone doing? 15:00:24 now give me five minutes to feed the cats 15:00:25 * kparal is here 15:00:31 good morning adamw 15:00:36 morning 15:00:43 .hello2 15:00:53 bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' 15:02:34 .hello jbwillia 15:02:35 Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' 15:05:11 .hello 15:05:11 lruzicka: (hello ) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 15:05:18 .hello2 15:05:24 lruzicka: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' 15:07:08 alllrighty 15:07:16 * cmurf waves 15:07:33 #topic Previous meeting follow-up 15:07:48 #info there were no action items at last meeting 15:07:51 any other stuff left over? 15:08:31 * kparal shrugs 15:10:41 * sumantro is around 15:11:32 1 hour past beer O'clock in Brno 15:12:01 okay 15:12:08 #topic Fedora 33 status 15:12:20 cmurf: that implies a time when it's not beer o'clock in brno 15:12:39 so, we didn't have a compose for a week due to the datacenter move (coming up!) 15:12:48 but aside from that i'm not aware of anything on fire in f33, still 15:13:05 i'm sure this unnatural and disturbing state will end soon 15:13:18 wait until the features start landing :D 15:13:41 is there going to be a mass or partial rebuild? gcc 10.1? 15:14:29 there will be a mass rebuild, hopefully on time even 15:15:05 i have been assured that our builder capacity will be back to normal in time for the mass rebuild to start 15:15:36 cool 15:16:23 rawhide is broken. ;) 15:16:29 nirik: excellent! 15:16:39 finally some good news 15:16:51 nirik: normal brokenness? 15:17:00 lorax is trying to write to /proc/something and failing. 15:17:11 I am not sure if thats new mock in the new datanceter or what 15:17:24 okay, so i'll try and help with that after this 15:17:42 #info composes have not started working again since data center move, nirik is working on it 15:18:09 #info up till DC move Rawhide was mostly working well with some minor bugs, but don't worry, we have many features still to land and the mass rebuild coming up so we're sure it'll be properly broken soon 15:19:05 anything else on f33? 15:19:54 we have a new test case live, if that counts 15:20:08 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_user_switching 15:20:12 https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/630 15:22:15 exciting! 15:22:23 we also have a bunch of new IoT test cases 15:22:27 so ha ha we win 15:22:54 oh, yeah, I'm not sure it's been covered at a meeting, so: 15:23:17 #info IoT validation events are (or were, before the DC move) up and running and seem to be working fine. still unknown whether IoT will be release-blocking for 33 yet. 15:24:30 for f33 what is the end date to submit a new spin 15:24:45 bcotton: ? 15:25:09 Southern_Gentlem: let's call it the self-contained change deadline 15:25:24 Southern_Gentlem: so July 21 15:25:54 and it must go through the spin-masters by that point correct? 15:26:10 that doesn't really...exist.... any more, afaict 15:26:31 so whom needs to approve it 15:26:36 for the Comp Neuro lab, we treated it as a self-contained change 15:26:47 so it went to the community for a week and then to FESCo for approval 15:27:05 it's a change 15:27:17 somewhere in my stack of "docs to improve and policies to clarify", i have a card for the spins process 15:27:18 like any other... there's no more spins process... thats gone 15:27:47 nobody breathe on the pile 15:27:50 okey dokey 15:27:53 Southern_Gentlem: see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/changes_policy/ for guidance (and please let me know if anything is unclear) 15:28:15 fyi the i3 sig has a working ks 15:28:58 awesome :-D 15:29:05 and the respin-sig is assisting (there will be a i3-lxde and i3-xfce released this afternoon) 15:29:22 for F32 15:30:07 ok, moving on... 15:30:09 #topic Data center move updates 15:30:50 so, in case anyone just woke from hibernation and was unaware, we are in the middle of moving more or less the entire Fedora infrastructure from one data center (phx2) to another (iad2) 15:30:55 and by "we" i mean "nirik" :P 15:31:41 and smooge! :) and others 15:32:20 this process has been ongoing for a while but started really kicking into high gear last week as critical stuff like koji and bodhi got moved. in general any infra-related weirdnesses you see (sites being down that should be up, odd behaviours in sites and tools like fedpkg) are probably related. you can drop by #fedora-noc to get a general idea of what's currently on fire in this process 15:32:56 if you see a really obvious problem like 'koji is down' you probably don't need to file a ticket, if you see a more subtle issue that someone might not have noticed yet, i guess file an infra ticket and/or drop by #fedora-noc and mention it 15:33:31 everything is logically moved from phx2 now. Next is moving all the turned off stuff in old DC -> new DC, reinstalling it and adding it back in to add capacity. 15:33:37 staging instances of various things will be down or not working as part of this, as we have less hardware up in the new DC than we had in the old DC for now. 15:33:57 to swing around to QA stuff: openQA staging is one of those things. it's down for now until we have more hardware available 15:34:27 this means we unfortunately don't have aarch64 or ppc64le tests happening right now. i'll try to get them back ASAP (either by getting staging deployed, or bringing them up on prod) 15:34:50 #info openQA staging is down as part of the DC move, so are aarch64 and ppc64le testing. adam will try to get them back ASAP 15:35:04 #info resultsdb and openQA prod are migrated to the new DC and seem to be working well, please report any issues you see 15:35:19 #info the rest of Taskotron is retired for ever, may it rest in peace 15:35:38 #info blockerbugs prod is migrated and seems to be working also 15:35:52 not sure where we're at with testdays app, i think we're still using our own deployment? 15:36:16 I believe so 15:37:38 welp, whatever it is, it's working :D 15:37:46 #info testdays webapp is currently up too 15:38:02 so overall we're in decent shape there. 15:38:08 any other notes/questions on this? 15:39:17 nothing here 15:40:36 ack 15:40:44 #info DC migration continues, please report any problems you see to infra 15:40:51 #topic Test Day / community event status 15:41:02 #chair sumantro 15:41:02 Current chairs: adamw sumantro 15:41:05 sumantro, take it away! 15:41:11 (then bring it back again) 15:41:28 adamw https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Fedora_32_CoreOS_2020-06-08 has the results of the test day 15:42:12 the FCOS test day was succesful and we are awaiting feedback from coreos team on https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/491 15:42:39 awesome 15:42:44 the test kernel test week is from 22-19 http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/85 15:43:07 and ZRAM test day is in progress and we are waiting to write test cases 15:43:41 for cmurf to write them, I think :) 15:43:56 the test day page is being tracked https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/632 15:44:48 cmurf, proposed to have btrfs test day which stems from btrfs as default WS WG proposal 15:45:35 how about onboarding? 15:45:35 There was an onboarding call also, and about 20 ppl participated 15:45:39 ah, there we go :D 15:45:43 awesome 15:45:58 the recording will be shared on fedora's youtube and the test list by tonight 15:46:00 yeah working on the zram tests and also some upstream features are still being fleshed out; and btrfs stuff is an R&D project still, no proposal yet 15:46:21 i think the main question WRT swap on zram is the issue of upgrades 15:46:22 adamw, I would like to thank coremodule for helping aq lot! 15:46:46 of course 15:46:47 i'm confident in it, but this means nothing. it's probably a good idea to not do it for upgrades 15:47:07 sumantro ran the call, I just shared some cloud/AWS/coreos specific tasks 15:47:46 #info CoreOS Test Day happened successfully on 2020-06-08: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Fedora_32_CoreOS_2020-06-08 15:48:00 #info onboarding event also wrapped up successfully with ~20 participants 15:48:33 #info kernel test week is coming from 2020-06-22 to 2020-06-29: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-06-22_Kernel_5.7_Test_Week 15:48:49 #info sumantro and cmurf are working on swap-on-zram test day 15:49:05 thanks sumantro! 15:49:26 #topic Open floor 15:49:29 any other business, folks? 15:49:59 nothing here 15:50:26 nothing here, either 15:50:43 i do not have anyting 15:54:27 welp then 15:54:51 it's beer o' clock somewhere 15:54:53 (probably brno) 15:55:01 thanks for coming, folks! 15:55:12 thanks adamw 15:56:30 #endmeeting