12:00:30 <asamalik> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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12:00:30 <asamalik> #meetingname magazine
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12:00:30 <asamalik> #topic Roll call
12:00:30 <asamalik> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr bcotton
12:00:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
12:01:57 <asamalik> .hello2
12:01:58 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
12:02:07 <bcotton> .hello2
12:02:08 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
12:03:14 <gregbartholomew> .hello glb
12:03:15 <zodbot> gregbartholomew: glb 'Gregory Lee Bartholomew' <gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com>
12:04:25 <asamalik> #topic Agenda
12:04:25 <asamalik> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
12:04:25 <asamalik> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
12:04:25 <asamalik> #info -- 2/ In progress followup --
12:04:25 <asamalik> #info -- 3/ Finished articles to review --
12:04:26 <asamalik> #info -- 4/ Articles to edit --
12:04:26 <asamalik> #info -- 5/ Publishing schedule --
12:04:27 <asamalik> #info -- 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve --
12:04:27 <asamalik> #info -- 7/ Editor of the Week --
12:04:28 <asamalik> #info -- 8/ Open floor --
12:04:51 <asamalik> hi everyone!
12:04:56 <stickster> Hi asamalik
12:04:59 <stickster> .hello pfrields
12:04:59 <jakfrost> hello2
12:04:59 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
12:05:02 <gregbartholomew> o/
12:05:11 <jakfrost> .hello
12:05:11 <zodbot> jakfrost: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
12:05:37 <asamalik> before we start, we'll be choosing our very first Editor of the Week today! More info here: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/editor-of-the-week/
12:05:47 <asamalik> that's later on the agenda
12:05:56 <stickster> Hint: '.hello <name>' for when your IRC nick doesn't match your FAS username. '.hello2' for when it does :-)
12:06:07 <asamalik> but I think we've all seen it on the list already :)
12:06:18 <jakfrost> stickster: thanks
12:07:00 <asamalik> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
12:07:11 <asamalik> #info Week of 15 Jun: 62.4k pageviews -- basically the same as last week
12:07:32 <jakfrost> at least we're consistent
12:07:54 <cverna> hello o/
12:07:54 <asamalik> heh, yep!
12:08:03 <asamalik> #topic 2/ In progress followup
12:08:03 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
12:08:03 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:08:24 <asamalik> #info 5 articles in progress
12:10:10 * asamalik can't find #195 in Wordpress, but it looks like the author is writing it in the card description
12:10:23 <jakfrost> really
12:10:52 <jakfrost> they are too
12:11:17 <asamalik> which is fine, we can just copy it over when it's done, wordpress supports markdown :)
12:11:51 <asamalik> #179 seems to be ready based on the comment
12:12:12 <asamalik> jakfrost: you might know :)
12:12:25 <jakfrost> It is, I need a reviewer, I did an image for it
12:12:39 <asamalik> nice! So I'll move it to review!
12:12:43 <jakfrost> and I need to talk about the title
12:12:50 <stickster> Are people putting their images in the fedoramagazine-images repo?
12:12:56 <jakfrost> I did
12:13:00 <stickster> Cool
12:13:05 <jakfrost> and have been
12:13:30 <jakfrost> bcotton gave me the rights to push them to the repo
12:13:57 <stickster> \o/
12:14:02 * asamalik has added a link to #201
12:14:04 <bcotton> all editors should have commit privs to all magazine repos by way of the pagure group
12:14:16 <asamalik> side note: we have over 200 articles in taiga! \o/
12:14:31 <gregbartholomew> do all images go in the repo or just title images?
12:14:41 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: just the cover images
12:15:00 <gregbartholomew> asamalik, got it, thanks.
12:16:46 * asamalik has added a link to #202
12:17:36 <asamalik> not sure what the #203 is about
12:17:44 <asamalik> no link, not in WP, no one assigned
12:18:19 <gregbartholomew> I saw it proposed on the mail list.
12:18:26 <gregbartholomew> I +1'd it.
12:18:49 <gregbartholomew> Apperently scp is being deprecated in favor of rsync.
12:19:17 <asamalik> see it in proposals now, I'l lcopy the description over!
12:19:59 <asamalik> and assigned
12:20:21 <asamalik> all right, anything else about in progress?
12:20:36 <asamalik> nothing seems stalled
12:21:42 <asamalik> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review
12:21:43 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback.
12:21:43 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:22:58 <jakfrost> #185 is ... missing? nothing at the preview link
12:23:04 <gregbartholomew> I think #185 was there last week. It comes up empty when I click on it.
12:23:20 <jakfrost> is the writer working on it?
12:24:14 <gregbartholomew> Maybe the link is wrong? Why is the card in the review column?
12:25:06 <jakfrost> it hasn't been edited since 20th of june
12:25:35 <asamalik> it's not been moved to review by the author
12:25:53 <asamalik> sysoplab: any chance you moved #185 by accident?
12:27:22 <asamalik> it could also be deleted by accident, and maybe there is an old version or an autosave... although I can't find the history in wordpress
12:28:05 <jakfrost> We should contact the writer for clarification and move the ticket to ion progress in the meantime
12:28:18 <asamalik> yep
12:29:37 <asamalik> done
12:29:39 <jakfrost> #194 seems complete, the writer put it in WP as a single continuous block
12:29:58 <jakfrost> title image included!
12:30:18 <asamalik> excellent!
12:30:25 <asamalik> it'll need some formatting changes
12:30:40 <gregbartholomew> I did the last one.
12:30:42 <jakfrost> asamalik: you beat me to it
12:30:42 * asamalik wonders why our codeblock CSS is broken :(
12:31:08 <asamalik> jakfrost: heh, do you want to edit this one? :)
12:31:21 <jakfrost> sure
12:31:27 <asamalik> jakfrost++
12:31:28 <asamalik> all yours!
12:31:50 <jakfrost> mmmm cookies
12:31:54 <gregbartholomew> jakfrost++ for taking editor of the week!
12:32:02 <asamalik> hahaha
12:32:13 <jakfrost> wait what?!?
12:32:31 <asamalik> #179 looks good!
12:33:07 <jakfrost> thank you, but the title.... I struggled with it
12:33:07 <asamalik> but I wonder if the image fits the borders (more details in #fedora-magazine right now)
12:33:41 <asamalik> maybe could be just "Setting Up Your Bash Environment"? :)
12:33:41 <gregbartholomew> For something shorter, maybe just "bash tips and tricks"?
12:33:47 <asamalik> or that
12:33:55 <jakfrost> I used the template but the exporting of my images in inkscape was not correct
12:34:14 <jakfrost> yeah possibly
12:34:15 <gregbartholomew> Maybe with a leading number -- I think that is supposed to rank well in search engines or something.
12:34:56 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: do you want to take this one? :P
12:35:09 <gregbartholomew> sure
12:35:15 <asamalik> glb++
12:35:15 <zodbot> asamalik: Karma for glb changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
12:36:24 <gregbartholomew> quick question about title case, I've been "correcting" that on section headers, but I've seen other let it go. Should we update the workflow maybe?
12:36:48 <asamalik> gregbartholomew: that's up to each editor I'd say
12:37:20 <bcotton> we should be consistent one way or the other (I'm almost positive that I haven't)
12:37:30 <asamalik> oh, title case
12:37:36 * asamalik has read it wrong
12:37:41 <asamalik> bcotton: yep, +1
12:38:11 <gregbartholomew> Well, FYI, I changed the title case to sentence case in the last latex article I edited. Maybe a series especially should be consistent.
12:38:24 <bcotton> maybe part of the style guide work would be to make an editorial checklist. i look at the guidelines when i edit, usually, but a checklist would help me be consistent
12:38:39 <asamalik> "Use sentence case for the post title and heading titles"
12:38:42 <asamalik> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/tips-for-writers/
12:38:52 <bcotton> and since i was going to volunteer to get the style guide started, i should really be quiet and stop adding to it :-)
12:39:10 <gregbartholomew> I don't think I've ever seen sentence case used for the post title.
12:39:30 <asamalik> let's brainstorm all the things that should be in the style guide since it doesn't cost us any work, then!
12:40:01 <asamalik> :P
12:40:05 <asamalik> anyway
12:40:08 <sysoplab> Here
12:40:12 <jakfrost> #192 is in need of an editor
12:40:28 * asamalik looks at #192
12:40:39 <sysoplab> Sorry fell asleep.  Which one is 192.  I should have time to edit an article this week again.
12:40:43 <gregbartholomew> sorry to have taken us a bit off topic there.
12:41:12 <jakfrost> 102 is part 3 of the perl series
12:41:20 <jakfrost> sorry #192
12:42:31 <sysoplab> Sure I'll do it
12:43:11 * stickster returns and sees style guide discussion. Right, we do have the issue of case there. That's precisely because different cultures/languages have different ways to implement title case. Sentence case ensures uniformity no matter what an editor's native language is.
12:43:12 <sysoplab> I'm assigned the rsync / scp article?  Thought the guy who proposed it was writing
12:43:42 <asamalik> stickster: that is a good explanation
12:44:08 <jakfrost> makes sense to me
12:44:36 <sysoplab> Ah I see I was tagged on 185 mist have been an accident sorry I usually do stuff like make new cards on my phone
12:45:47 <asamalik> sysoplab: sorry you put the rsync / scp to in progress, so I thought it's you
12:46:02 * gregbartholomew stickster: works for me -- I'll stick to converting titles to sentence case if that is what the magazine team wants.
12:46:05 <asamalik> i'll unassign it and put it to the Article Spec column then
12:46:15 <sysoplab> I did because author said it was partially written wasn't it?
12:46:40 <asamalik> sysoplab: I couldn't find it anywhere in wordpress, do you have a link?
12:47:16 <stickster> gregbartholomew: +1, bonzer
12:47:25 <jakfrost> so who is editing #192?
12:48:16 * bcotton will take 192
12:48:21 <sysoplab> I will jakfrost
12:48:31 <sysoplab> Or Ben can all good.
12:48:38 <bcotton> i win! :-)
12:48:50 <asamalik> yay!
12:48:56 <asamalik> assigned, moved to To Edit
12:48:59 <gregbartholomew> I guess the editors like my PERL articles?! :)
12:49:01 <sysoplab> https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-proposals/issue/97 -- proposer said he will write
12:50:28 <asamalik> ok, thanks
12:50:35 <asamalik> they're not in taiga, let me invite them
12:51:43 <asamalik> done and assigned
12:51:53 <asamalik> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule
12:51:53 <asamalik> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period.
12:51:53 <asamalik> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content.
12:51:53 <asamalik> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:52:08 <asamalik> three days, three articles, fantastic!
12:52:31 <asamalik> who can edit their assignment for Friday?
12:52:31 <sysoplab> The one I edited for last Friday never published too
12:52:49 <jakfrost> I can
12:52:50 <sysoplab> I think Ben put it for this week Friday since the kernel one went last week
12:53:23 <asamalik> excellent!
12:53:29 <asamalik> Monday?
12:53:50 <jakfrost> I can have #194 ready for Friday or Monday
12:54:07 <gregbartholomew> monday is fine for me
12:54:23 <asamalik> sysoplab: oh, let me check!
12:54:52 <asamalik> you're right!
12:54:56 <asamalik> so #194 Monday
12:55:05 <jakfrost> sure thing
12:55:07 <gregbartholomew> +1
12:55:07 <asamalik> #179 Wednesday
12:55:13 <asamalik> #192 Friday
12:55:14 <jakfrost> +1
12:56:35 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE:  Fri 26 Jun 2020: #184 Fedora 32 and Docker (image: DONE, edit: DONE) -- Mon 29 Jun 2020: #194 LaTeX Typesetting – Part 2 (Tables) (image: DONE, edit: jakfrost) -- Wed 01 Jul 2020: #179 Setting Up your Bash Environment - Some Tips and Ideas (image: DONE, edit: glb) -- Fri 31 Jul 2020: #192 Demonstrating PERL with Tic-Tac-Toe, Part 3 (image: DONE, edit: bcotton)
12:56:54 <bcotton> +1
12:57:02 <jakfrost> +1
12:57:03 <gregbartholomew> +1
12:57:17 <asamalik> I'll skip the proposals today, as we need to choose the editor of the week
12:57:23 <asamalik> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE:  Fri 26 Jun 2020: #184 Fedora 32 and Docker (image: DONE, edit: DONE) -- Mon 29 Jun 2020: #194 LaTeX Typesetting – Part 2 (Tables) (image: DONE, edit: jakfrost) -- Wed 01 Jul 2020: #179 Setting Up your Bash Environment - Some Tips and Ideas (image: DONE, edit: glb) -- Fri 31 Jul 2020: #192 Demonstrating PERL with Tic-Tac-Toe, Part 3 (image: DONE, edit: bcotton)
12:57:51 <asamalik> #topic 7/ Editor of the week
12:58:09 <asamalik> all right, any volunteer?
12:58:22 <jakfrost> So I'll be the guinea pig
12:58:28 <asamalik> to be the first ever Fedora Magazine Editor of the Week? this is a historic moment! :D
12:58:31 <asamalik> jakfrost++
12:58:41 <sysoplab> I'll keep my eye on the issues like I have been but doubt I'll have enough time this week to volunteer to be available super often.
12:58:43 <asamalik> #info jakfrost will be Editor of the Week next week
12:58:52 <gregbartholomew> I was just kidding about that jakfrost :),
12:59:04 <jakfrost> glb: I know, me too
12:59:10 <asamalik> ha
12:59:22 <asamalik> all right, out of time, thanks everyone!
12:59:29 <gregbartholomew> +!
12:59:49 <asamalik> #endmeeting