05:30:33 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
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05:30:33 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
05:30:33 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
05:30:33 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2020-06-30
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05:30:43 <mfabian_> ☺
05:30:50 <tagoh> hi
05:31:40 <petersen> hi
05:32:19 <priyamgupta> Hi
05:33:00 <paragan> Hi all
05:33:13 <paragan> #chair mfabian_ tagoh petersen priyamgupta
05:33:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: mfabian_ paragan petersen priyamgupta tagoh
05:33:25 <paragan> some of members are on holidays today
05:33:35 <paragan> I think we can proceed here :)
05:33:54 <pravins> hi all :)
05:34:02 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:34:10 <paragan> #chair pravins
05:34:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: mfabian_ paragan petersen pravins priyamgupta tagoh
05:34:36 <paragan> let's check at some of upcoming milestones in Fedora development cycle
05:35:05 <paragan> Today is last day to submit F33 System-Wide Change
05:35:15 <paragan> #info 2020-06-30 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild)
05:35:15 <paragan> #info 2020-06-30 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes)
05:35:53 <paragan> about our Change submission we will discuss in next topic. Consider this general information here.
05:36:09 <paragan> also next upcoming milestone is
05:36:10 <paragan> #info 2020-07-21 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Self Contained Changes)
05:37:22 <paragan> Also, do check devel list for some of interesting Change submission discussions :)
05:38:14 <paragan> those are about default editor and filesystem Change.
05:38:36 <paragan> not much here to discuss
05:38:48 <paragan> moving to our issue discussions
05:39:37 <petersen> Sorry to interrupt but been meaning to mention for long time
05:39:46 <petersen> Can we change "No assignee issues"
05:40:05 <petersen> I mean the wording
05:40:10 <petersen> ?
05:40:29 <paragan> what other text we can use there?
05:40:44 <petersen> Even no text would be better IMHO :)
05:40:59 <petersen> Or we should assign tickets?
05:41:04 <paragan> or we better drop categorization of assignee vs non-assignee tickets?
05:41:08 <petersen> Nod
05:41:13 <paragan> Okay
05:41:16 <petersen> It is not usual it seems?
05:41:24 <petersen> useful sorry
05:41:53 <petersen> Though I think mentioned it long ago anyway, thanks
05:42:23 <paragan> Okay we will drop it and will mention just "issues"
05:42:24 <petersen> Let's continue
05:42:46 <paragan> #topic issues
05:42:49 <tagoh> Well, originally it was to inform someone who brought it up, to start updating.
05:43:00 <petersen> Cool
05:43:18 <petersen> Okay
05:43:56 <petersen> It seems we tend not to assign tickets
05:44:00 <paragan> our most of tickets are generic and owned by whole group
05:44:05 <petersen> Right
05:44:27 <petersen> Actually I would such one topic per issue
05:44:33 <petersen> suggest
05:44:49 <tagoh> Right
05:45:13 <paragan> #info #119: Tracker for Fedora 33 Changes (pnemade)
05:45:13 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/119
05:45:43 <paragan> so this is our tracker for any of our F33 Change submission
05:47:28 <petersen> Seems our hoped for Changes require rpm/macros changes
05:49:43 <paragan> yeah
05:49:54 <paragan> so we have draft font packaging update change
05:50:31 <paragan> the required changes need to be done in fonts-rpm-macros package
05:52:11 <paragan> which is yet to happen
05:52:48 <petersen> What about redhat-rpm-config?
05:53:34 <paragan> hm, not sure if there is any change required there, though I can see 1 PR open there to clean macros
05:53:35 <petersen> Do they need to be reviewed by FPC, or they already approved the generic macros?
05:54:30 <paragan> we need some more changes in existing fonts-rpm-macros package which is not there yet and redhat-rpm-config changes are already in Fedora
05:54:59 <petersen> I don't think so
05:55:09 <tagoh> I'm a bit concerned proposed changes in fonts-rpm-macro isn't yet available on git. wondering what's ETA for new changes
05:55:10 <paragan> I am not sure if FPC approval is needed when implementation of macros when gets changed,
05:55:33 <paragan> s/when //g
05:58:41 <paragan_> anything more to discuss here?
06:00:27 <paragan_> if not let's move to next issue
06:01:11 <paragan> #info #123: Content for infographic to highlight accomplishments of Globalization team! (smeragoel)
06:01:12 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/123
06:01:50 <paragan> just to let you know all that reply has been posted to this ticket
06:02:47 <paragan> if anything still missing, do directly add there :)
06:03:24 <paragan> moving to next topic
06:04:14 <petersen> Apparently %sourcelist is defined by rpm
06:04:22 <petersen> Thanks
06:04:59 <paragan> yeah I think that is new in rpm 4.16
06:05:10 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:05:14 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:05:27 <petersen> Well seems also in 4.15
06:05:40 <paragan> oh i see
06:05:41 <tagoh> Aha
06:06:02 <petersen> ./tests/data/SPECS/hello-auto.spec\08:%sourcelist
06:07:23 <petersen> Then no longer need source0, source1, etc
06:07:32 <petersen> similarly %patchlist
06:08:56 <petersen> So it should be available in F31+
06:11:04 <paragan> okay
06:13:39 <paragan> let's discuss on this Change via chat or emails
06:13:46 <paragan> Thank you all for joining this meeting
06:13:59 <paragan> #endmeeting