21:01:03 <tdawson> #startmeeting EPEL (2020-07-10) 21:01:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Jul 10 21:01:03 2020 UTC. 21:01:03 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 21:01:03 <zodbot> The chair is tdawson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:03 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:01:03 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel_(2020-07-10)' 21:01:04 <tdawson> #meetingname epel 21:01:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel' 21:01:06 <tdawson> #chair nirik tdawson bstinson Evolution pgreco carlwgeorge 21:01:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution bstinson carlwgeorge nirik pgreco tdawson 21:01:07 <tdawson> #topic aloha 21:01:15 <pgreco> hello! 21:01:19 <carlwgeorge> howdy 21:01:21 <tdawson> hi pgreco 21:01:24 <tdawson> hi carlwgeorge 21:01:38 <nirik> hello 21:01:46 <tdawson> hi nirik 21:02:16 <tdawson> Wow, we've got a full quorum in the first minute 21:03:06 <tdawson> I'm still going to wait my usual 5 mintues, cuz I need to step away for two of those minutes. 21:05:30 <tdawson> OK, I'm back 21:05:40 * bstinson shows up late 21:05:46 <tdawson> hi bstinson 21:05:49 <tdawson> #topic Old Business 21:05:50 <tdawson> #info Proposal to update Guidelines and Policies about module names and stream names 21:07:26 <pgreco> we needed confirmation that the module could have a prefix, right? 21:07:26 <tdawson> If I read things right, it looks like the modularity folk would like to not add -epel to the end of stream names, due to this breaking and/or making complicated the module dependencies. 21:07:46 <tdawson> pgreco: The stream name, correct. 21:08:08 <pgreco> yeah, something automatic would be good 21:08:13 <nirik> bummer. 21:08:19 <nirik> so has to be manual... 21:08:21 <pgreco> but that would break deps instead of builds 21:08:42 <tdawson> It has to be manual, but maybe we could get something into bodhi 21:09:15 <tdawson> So, even if they built a module with the same name and stream name, it wouldn't make it through updates. 21:10:08 <nirik> sounds like a gating test... 21:10:15 <tdawson> yep 21:10:54 <tdawson> That will take a little bit to investigate and/or implement 21:11:07 <tdawson> I'd like to update the policy sooner though. 21:11:46 <pgreco> but in this case, updating the policy would remove nodejs/10 21:11:54 <carlwgeorge> is https://pagure.io/epel/issue/104 the context for this? 21:12:01 <tdawson> Correct 21:13:00 <tdawson> pgreco: Well, nodejs/10 in epel-modules is already slated to be removed, along with nodejs/12 and nginx/1.18 21:13:10 <carlwgeorge> i knew we agreed that the module name should match the corresponding rhel module, but i wasn't expecting to get identical stream names 21:13:35 <tdawson> carlwgeorge: Ya, me neither ... till it happened. 21:13:47 <nirik> yeah. ;( 21:14:29 <carlwgeorge> i'm in favor of changing the policy to explicitly forbid that 21:14:38 <pgreco> I'm ok with changing the policy, stream name shouldn't match 21:15:08 <pgreco> but I'd like to find a way that makes it easier for people to build for fedora and epel using the same data 21:15:15 <tdawson> Sounds like we have two +1's for the policy change. 21:15:39 <nirik> yeah, I am ok with the policy change... 21:15:48 <nirik> even before we can set the tests up for it. 21:17:14 <tdawson> pgreco: Yes, I would like to have a way to build for fedora and epel using the same data as well.. 21:17:38 <tdawson> But for the time being, I think we need the policy change to happen while that is being investigated. 21:17:41 <carlwgeorge> which modules did this? i don't see any duplicated stream names. 21:17:55 <nirik> they have since been removed. 21:18:11 <carlwgeorge> gotcha 21:18:42 <tdawson> With my +1, I believe we have +4. Correct? 21:18:46 <carlwgeorge> related small observation, 389-ds in rhel but 389-directory-server in epel 21:18:55 <bstinson> i'm ok with the policy change 21:19:06 <tdawson> +5 21:19:14 <carlwgeorge> math checks out 21:19:57 <tdawson> #info policy change, as stated it issue #104 is approved by commitee: +5 for 0 against, 1 person absent. 21:20:04 <nirik> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9554 (It was nodejs:10 nodejs:12 nginx:18 ) 21:21:08 <tdawson> Should we open a separate issue to deal with setting up a bodhi check? Or use this older one. I'm thinking I'll open a new issue. 21:21:51 <nirik> well, who is gonna work on it? ;) yeah, probibly a new one. 21:22:25 <tdawson> I don't know. I haven't ever written a bodhi check. 21:22:46 <tdawson> Maybe we could persuade someone who knows how to do it. I'm sure for some people it's something easy for them. 21:23:52 <tdawson> Anything else on this before we move on? 21:24:37 <tdawson> #info EPEL-6 is End of Life in 2020-11. It will be moved to archives in 2020-12 21:24:38 <tdawson> #info THIS IS NOT A DRILL. 21:24:59 <tdawson> 5 months. This is getting exciting. :) 21:25:14 <tdawson> In a "watching your grass grow" kind of way. :) 21:25:31 <tdawson> #topic EPEL-7 21:26:08 <tdawson> I don't have anything for epel7. Does anyone else? 21:26:44 <pgreco> not here 21:26:49 <tdawson> #topic EPEL-8 21:27:53 <pgreco> 1 sec on this, I'm checking the nodejs package that was being replaced 21:27:58 <pgreco> don't remember exactly the hame 21:28:00 <pgreco> *name 21:28:08 <tdawson> There is the problem that the CentOS Devel repo we are pulling is still on CentOS 8.1 ... but that's being worked on. 21:28:19 <tdawson> pgreco: with the module stuff? 21:28:53 <pgreco> yeah, I was sure I had seen it yesterday 21:29:10 <pgreco> but my memory is not what it used to be ;) 21:29:21 <tdawson> Well, there is nodejs itself, but then http-parser libuv and libnghttp2 21:29:47 <pgreco> it was libnghttp2, but it isn't there anymore, so we can move on :) 21:30:02 <tdawson> Sounds good. 21:31:45 <tdawson> bstinson: nirik: it's been a few weeks since I asked about the -playground stuff. Anything to report? 21:32:13 <bstinson> still waiting on me :( sorry 21:32:19 <nirik> not from me... 21:32:33 <tdawson> I probrubly shouldn't be asking in this meeting, rather before, but I keep forgetting to ask ahead of time. 21:33:10 <tdawson> Anything else for epel8 then? 21:34:01 <nirik> not from me 21:34:36 <tdawson> #topic General Issues / Open Floor 21:35:47 <tdawson> anything else, or are we ok with a shorter meeting? 21:35:50 <pgreco> going once.... 21:35:58 <nirik> going twice... 21:36:03 <pgreco> sold! 21:36:08 <nirik> ha 21:36:11 <carlwgeorge> at the grundy county auctiuon 21:36:20 <tdawson> Thanks to everyone for coming this week. 21:36:20 <carlwgeorge> *auction 21:36:21 <pgreco> good weekend everybody :) 21:36:31 <carlwgeorge> later yall 21:36:33 <tdawson> Have a good weekend, and good week. 21:36:44 <tdawson> #endmeeting