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12:01:12 <jakfrost> #topic Roll call
12:01:17 <stickster> .hello pfrields
12:01:18 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
12:01:31 <jakfrost> .hello2 jakfrost
12:01:32 <zodbot> jakfrost: jakfrost 'None' <s40w5s@gmail.com>
12:01:37 <asamalik> .hello2
12:01:38 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
12:01:49 <asamalik> happy Wednesday!
12:01:59 <jakfrost> greeting!
12:02:16 <jakfrost> #chair stickster ryanlerch cverna asamalik sub_pop gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr bcotton
12:02:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: asamalik bcotton cverna gregbartholomew jakfrost misc rwaltr ryanlerch stickster sub_pop
12:02:45 <jakfrost> #topic Agenda
12:02:45 <jakfrost> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
12:02:45 <jakfrost> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
12:02:45 <jakfrost> #info -- 2/ In progress followup --
12:02:45 <jakfrost> #info -- 3/ Finished articles to review --
12:02:46 <jakfrost> #info -- 4/ Articles to edit --
12:02:48 <jakfrost> #info -- 5/ Publishing schedule --
12:02:50 <jakfrost> #info -- 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve --
12:02:52 <jakfrost> #info -- 7/ Editor of the Week --
12:02:54 <jakfrost> #info -- 8/ Open floor --
12:03:05 <jakfrost> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
12:03:05 <jakfrost> #info -- 1/ Last week's stats --
12:03:05 <jakfrost> #info -- 2/ In progress followup --
12:03:05 <jakfrost> #info -- 3/ Finished articles to review --
12:03:05 <jakfrost> #info -- 4/ Articles to edit --
12:03:06 <jakfrost> #info -- 5/ Publishing schedule --
12:03:08 <jakfrost> #info -- 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve --
12:03:10 <jakfrost> #info -- 7/ Editor of the Week --
12:03:12 <jakfrost> #info -- 8/ Open floor --
12:03:22 <jakfrost> #topic 1/ Last week's stats
12:03:26 <bcotton> .hello2
12:03:26 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
12:03:39 <jakfrost> https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats
12:04:33 <jakfrost> 70,750 views last week, up from the previous week, the "Why I switched to Fedora" article drew many views
12:04:55 <stickster> indeed
12:05:04 <asamalik> nice
12:05:14 <jakfrost> sorry, I forget my manners, I meant to start with good morning and thanks for showing up
12:05:46 <jakfrost> I hope everyone enjoyed Fedora Nest last week
12:06:03 <stickster> good morning/afternoon/evening :-)
12:06:13 <stickster> I only caught a little of it but I heard it was very good
12:06:45 <jakfrost> It was my first so I was captivated a bit by it
12:06:57 <jakfrost> moving onto business
12:06:59 <jakfrost> #topic 2/ In progress followup
12:06:59 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'in progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
12:06:59 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:08:08 <jakfrost> so cmurf moved the BTRFS by default article back to in progress from review
12:08:27 <stickster> cool!
12:08:39 <jakfrost> I think they are going to use it for the community blog and write a more mag focused one for the magazine
12:09:12 <jakfrost> I think #183 could go into review easily, and likely straight to edit
12:09:32 <jakfrost> maybe even publish Thursday this week
12:10:16 <jakfrost> #89 has renewed focus from the writer
12:12:07 <asamalik> yes #183 looks good, I'm happy to get it out if needed
12:12:18 <jakfrost> asamalik++
12:13:10 <jakfrost> #213 is still awaiting a response from the author
12:13:36 <asamalik> oh wow #89 looks interesting!
12:14:34 <jakfrost> indeed, and ready for publish I think
12:15:32 <jakfrost> I can tell you from experience that what is done in #89 is not easy to sort out on your own, there is a lot of work there
12:16:01 <asamalik> wow they even use the real-time kernel for that one
12:16:17 <jakfrost> yeah, timing is important
12:16:52 <jakfrost> It is a good showcase of what you can do with Fedora
12:17:55 <asamalik> yeah
12:18:02 <stickster> Is #89 ready to edit yet?
12:18:38 <asamalik> threre's still some "TODO" in there
12:18:48 <asamalik> has a lot of interesting content, but still WIP I'd say
12:18:51 <stickster> ycollet: Hey, in case you're around we're discussing your article
12:19:03 <jakfrost> I think the author is here @ycollet nudge
12:19:34 <jakfrost> stickster: you beat me to it
12:20:14 <stickster> Oh! It is in 'review'... I would actually recommend trimming off the TODO section and turning that into an additional article ycollet
12:20:27 <stickster> There's so much more there already, it's more than enough for a great article
12:21:20 <jakfrost> I put it into review maybe premature,
12:21:42 <asamalik> yeah it's an amazing overview.. I had no idea there are all these things
12:21:55 <asamalik> and there could be follow up deep dives if needed :)
12:22:22 <jakfrost> true enough, but should I place it back to in progress?
12:22:30 <jakfrost> at least for now
12:22:49 <asamalik> I'd personally let the author to finish this and decide
12:23:02 <asamalik> it's not being in progress for long I believe?
12:23:11 <stickster> yeah that's totally fine
12:23:26 <asamalik> yeah, moved to in progress yesterday :D
12:23:46 <jakfrost> okay done. I think that covers our in progress less more comments on #213
12:24:22 <jakfrost> #topic 3/ Finished articles to review
12:24:22 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to edit' (finished) or to the 'in progress' (needs more work) and provide feedback.
12:24:22 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:25:22 <jakfrost> #218 is our only officially in review article, and it looks ready to edit
12:25:58 <asamalik> ha, more music
12:27:10 <jakfrost> and a bit of a history lesson too
12:27:46 <jakfrost> I think it is ready to be edited, any thoughts
12:27:52 <stickster> I have an article I want to provide which could be ready for next week
12:28:06 <jakfrost> stickster++
12:28:22 <asamalik> and I can edit/image this one, too!
12:28:30 <asamalik> #218 I mean
12:28:34 <jakfrost> asamalik++
12:28:40 <asamalik> stickster++
12:29:11 <jakfrost> #topic 4/ Articles to edit
12:29:11 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'to edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
12:29:11 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:29:56 <asamalik> I've assigned both to myself on the board already
12:30:31 <jakfrost> So asamalik has taken both of our articles that need editing, the image is done for #183 I think and this means there is not much left to say on this topic
12:30:51 <stickster> o_O
12:31:13 * stickster posted https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/aticle-proposal-pulseeffects/22434 in case anyone wants to +1
12:31:13 <jakfrost> #topic 5/ Publishing schedule
12:31:13 <jakfrost> #info Looking at the 'queued' and 'to edit' columns, decide the publishing schedule for the next week period.
12:31:13 <jakfrost> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in progress' or even the 'article spec' columns come up with additional content.
12:31:13 <jakfrost> #link Board: https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/asamalik-fedora-magazine/kanban
12:31:19 <asamalik> and I should have time to edit them today or tomorrow.. basically by Friday, so we're flexible with the schedule from my side :)
12:32:21 <asamalik> that was a speedy approval :D
12:32:39 <jakfrost> So,stickster, what was the timeline for next week on your article?
12:32:51 <jakfrost> asamalik++
12:33:10 <jakfrost> fast tracked approvals!
12:33:16 <asamalik> jakfrost: stop it, I'll need a nap after all these cookies :D
12:33:37 <jakfrost> coffee and cookies is good, tea and cookies is better
12:33:57 <sdgathman> what kind of image for #218 ?
12:34:19 <sdgathman> washtub bass ?  Or piano ?
12:34:26 <sdgathman> something else ?
12:34:57 <asamalik> sdgathman: hey! if you have any preferences, happy to do something you'd like
12:35:02 <asamalik> or did you want to do the image?
12:35:05 <asamalik> both fine with me!
12:35:28 <jakfrost> all of the above on a stage
12:36:36 <jakfrost> stickster: I am thinking of Monday publish, it was missed this week, and I got the TCP artical out tuesday
12:36:54 <asamalik> sdgathman: this could be a nice background for example: https://unsplash.com/photos/yetxsNbHavQ
12:37:20 <stickster> jakfrost: I can have it for Monday, no problem.
12:37:24 <sdgathman> asamalik: that's perfect, since the example is an ancient hymn
12:38:00 <asamalik> sdgathman: deal!
12:38:12 <jakfrost> okay so ...
12:43:10 <jakfrost> #proposed #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE:
12:43:10 <jakfrost> Thursday August 13, 2020, Come test a new release of pipenv (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image) --
12:43:10 <jakfrost> Friday August 14, 2020, Music rendering with ABC notation (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image) --
12:43:10 <jakfrost> Monday August 17, 2020, PulseEffects (stickster:edit/stickster:image) --
12:43:37 <jakfrost> #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE:
12:43:41 <jakfrost> Thursday August 13, 2020, Come test a new release of pipenv (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image) --
12:43:44 <jakfrost> Friday August 14, 2020, Music rendering with ABC notation (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image) --
12:43:47 <jakfrost> Monday August 17, 2020, PulseEffects (stickster:edit/stickster:image) --
12:43:56 <asamalik> do we really want to do both thursday and friday this week?
12:43:57 <stickster> What if we instead did this as Friday, Monday, Wednesday?
12:44:01 <stickster> asamalik: +1
12:44:14 <jakfrost> I think that's a good idea
12:44:19 <asamalik> +1 to what stickster says
12:44:20 <stickster> Rather than being starved for content next wseek
12:44:24 <stickster> week,e ven
12:44:26 <jakfrost> so ...
12:44:27 <stickster> oh I give up :-D
12:44:38 <jakfrost> #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE:
12:44:46 <stickster> I'm still happy to have mine ready Monday, not meaning to delay my own delivery :-)
12:45:05 <jakfrost> Friday August 14, 2020, Come test a new release of pipenv (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image) --
12:45:27 <jakfrost> Monday August 17, 2020, Music rendering with ABC notation (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image) --
12:45:51 <jakfrost> Wednesday August 19, 2020, PulseEffects (stickster:edit/stickster:image) --
12:46:41 <jakfrost> Ill take that as we're good and do this ...
12:46:42 <asamalik> _1
12:46:43 <asamalik> +1 even
12:46:57 <jakfrost> great day for finger exercises
12:47:09 <asamalik> jakfrost: and if you paste it all on a single line, it gets logged properly with zodbot
12:47:26 <asamalik> when you do proposed
12:47:46 <jakfrost> I did at first but I left the accepted
12:47:57 <jakfrost> I'll try again, phew
12:49:47 <asamalik> jakfrost: you can copy the whole thing here with #proposed #agreed ... on one line, and after people +1 it, you can post the same thing again, just leave out the #proposed
12:50:09 <asamalik> that way you basically propose you want to record this specific #agreed
12:50:17 <asamalik> and then do it if peopel agree :)
12:51:14 * asamalik said "proposed" above when he meant "agreed"...
12:51:26 <jakfrost> #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE:
12:51:26 <jakfrost> Friday August 14, Come test a new release of pipenv, the Python development tool (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image) --
12:51:26 <jakfrost> Monday August 17, Music rendering with ABC notation (asamalik:edit/asamalik:image) --
12:51:26 <jakfrost> Wednesday August 19, PulseEffects (Stickster:edit/stickster:image) --
12:52:39 <stickster> +1
12:52:57 <stickster> I would put all these on one line (abbreviating the titles) so the #agreed will come out in the minutes
12:53:48 <stickster> i.e. #agreed Fri Aug 14 - pipenv (asamalik:edit/image) -- Mon Aug 17 - Music w/ ABC (asamalik:edit/image) -- Wed Aug 19 - PulseEffects (stickster:edit/image)
12:54:15 <stickster> just a tip from many practices :-D
12:54:15 <jakfrost> #agreed Fri Aug 14 - pipenv (asamalik:edit/image) -- Mon Aug 17 - Music w/ ABC (asamalik:edit/image) -- Wed Aug 19 - PulseEffects (stickster:edit/image)
12:54:25 <jakfrost> that's a good tip
12:54:38 <stickster> \o/
12:55:05 <jakfrost> #topic 6/ Article proposals to clarify / approve
12:55:05 <jakfrost> #info Review the the article proposals and decide about what's next — a new article spec? more discussion?
12:55:05 <jakfrost> #link Article proposals in our forum: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/Discussion-related-to-Fedora-Magazine
12:58:05 <jakfrost> The discussion area has only stickster's proposal and pagure has nothing new, we have a tonne in spec
12:58:43 * stickster has to drop in a moment for a meeting.
12:59:36 * asamalik will need to disappear, too
12:59:41 <jakfrost> so we can move on to EOW selection now
12:59:43 <asamalik> but looks like we did everything today! \o/
12:59:58 <asamalik> oh, right
13:00:00 <jakfrost> #topic 7/ Editor of the Week
13:00:00 <jakfrost> #info XXXX will be Editor of the Week next week
13:00:19 <jakfrost> any takers this week?
13:00:27 <asamalik> I'll be in meetings next week :(
13:01:06 <jakfrost> well, I can ask in the discussion area
13:01:16 <asamalik> although I could be a backup, probably
13:01:49 <jakfrost> okay we'll miss open floor this week
13:02:21 <jakfrost> thanks everyone, see ya, goto your other meetings
13:02:26 <jakfrost> #endmeeting