15:00:13 <bcotton> #startmeeting Prioritized bugs and issues 15:00:13 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 26 15:00:13 2020 UTC. 15:00:13 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:13 <zodbot> The chair is bcotton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:13 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:13 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'prioritized_bugs_and_issues' 15:00:14 <bcotton> #meetingname Fedora Prioritized bugs and issues 15:00:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_prioritized_bugs_and_issues' 15:00:25 <bcotton> #topic Purpose of this meeting 15:00:26 <bcotton> #info The purpose of this process is to help with processing backlog of bugs and issues found during the development, verification and use of Fedora distribution. 15:00:28 <bcotton> #info The main goal is to raise visibility of bugs and issues to help contributors focus on the most important issues. 15:00:29 <bcotton> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/#_process_description 15:00:36 <bcotton> #topic Roll Call 15:05:44 <bcotton> mhroncok: are you around to discuss the bugs you nominated? 15:07:46 <mhroncok> bcotton: hey 15:07:58 <bcotton> hooray! 15:07:59 <mhroncok> bcotton: sorry, I must have missed this meeting, I am around 15:08:41 <bcotton> i meant to send the agenda email with assignees cc'ed, but the day got away from me 15:08:52 <bcotton> but we have more than one person here, so let's party! 15:08:54 <mhroncok> bcotton: (send me a calendar invite if you have it in your work calendar please) 15:08:57 <bcotton> #topic Nominated bugs 15:08:59 <bcotton> #info 2 nominated bugs 15:09:01 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=flagtypes.name&f2=OP&list_id=10871664&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&v1=fedora_prioritized_bug%3F 15:09:02 <bcotton> mhroncok: ack 15:09:15 <bcotton> #topic gcc crashes during PGO Firefox build 15:09:17 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849165 15:09:38 <mhroncok> this is clearly on the reporter 15:09:43 <mhroncok> I propose to move on for now 15:11:06 <bcotton> think we should reject or give it one more meeting? 15:11:14 <mhroncok> give it one more 15:11:39 <mhroncok> iff the bug is still valid, I would rcommend to prioritize it 15:11:46 <mhroncok> we can do that conditionally if you'd like 15:12:02 <mhroncok> firefox not building is pretty bad :( 15:12:47 <bcotton> proposed #agreed Reproducability is unclear, so we will defer a decision until the next meeting. 15:14:27 <bcotton> mhroncok: is ^^ an accurate read? 15:14:34 <mhroncok> yes 15:14:44 <mhroncok> bcotton: sorry, I've missed the "proposed" bit :) 15:14:53 <bcotton> #agreed Reproducability is unclear, so we will defer a decision until the next meeting. 15:15:11 <bcotton> #topic [Rawhide] gcc crashes at brew during Firefox build 15:15:13 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1862029 15:15:23 <mhroncok> seems like there is an upstream fix 15:15:30 <mhroncok> I'd like to see it backported sooner than later 15:16:26 <bcotton> #info Upstream fix exists 15:16:31 <bcotton> #link https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=96690 15:16:54 <bcotton> does this affect all Firefox builds or just prevent the latest major building? 15:17:06 <mhroncok> sorry, no idea 15:17:09 <bcotton> okay 15:17:24 <bcotton> either way, it seems worth prioritizing 15:17:30 <mhroncok> FTR I've nominated the bugs becasue the firefox maintainers asked fesco to use clang in the meantime 15:17:55 <bcotton> so you're hoping gcc is fixed so they don't have to? 15:19:30 <bcotton> proposed #agreed Accepted as prioritized bug because it blocks builds of a key package 15:19:36 <mhroncok> bcotton: exactly 15:19:41 <mhroncok> bcotton: and ack 15:19:51 <bcotton> #agreed Accepted as prioritized bug because it blocks builds of a key package 15:20:06 <bcotton> #topic Accepted bugs 15:20:08 <bcotton> #info 1 accepted bugs 15:20:09 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=flagtypes.name&f2=OP&list_id=10871665&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&v1=fedora_prioritized_bug%2B 15:20:24 <bcotton> #topic [Fedora Media Writer] Does not work on macOS Catalina 15:20:25 <bcotton> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1840663 15:20:27 <bcotton> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9577 15:20:29 <mhroncok> RELEASE_PENDING? 15:20:39 <bcotton> yeah, it's blocked on signing 15:20:45 <mhroncok> 2 months ago, oh 15:20:54 <bcotton> mattdm and i have been nudging in a variety of channels 15:21:58 <mhroncok> not sure what can I do that mattdm and you haven't 15:22:16 <mhroncok> I can certainly hunt down humaton a bit easier, but not sure if that helps 15:22:39 * mhroncok know where he lives :D 15:22:45 <mhroncok> *knows 15:23:03 * bcotton laughs evilly 15:24:01 <bcotton> i think it's more blocked on the macOS side which i think kevin is the person who can handle it? 15:25:07 <mhroncok> bcotton: no idea 15:25:23 <bcotton> i guess i'll just keep being annoying until it's fixed :-) 15:25:25 <mhroncok> this entire windows/macos signing is not known to me at all 15:25:32 <smooge> Fedora Media Writer is needing to get new developer certificates 15:25:50 <mhroncok> smooge: hey there :) 15:25:50 <bcotton> ohai smooge 15:26:50 <bcotton> what's the blocker on getting the new developer certs? 15:26:57 <smooge> once those certificates are gotten, then I believe they need to be 'registered' with the appropriate groups (Apple?) and then the software signing process needs to be done 15:27:10 <smooge> time, energy, knowledge 15:27:56 <smooge> blockers are ^^ 15:28:16 <bcotton> okay. anything i can to do help reduce the blockiness of any of those? 15:28:58 <smooge> time to make the proper certs, energy to stick through the process with Apple and Digicert and other things, intimate knowledge of what is needed versus 'well I did this N years ago and now none of that works' 15:29:15 <bcotton> i'll get right on that :-) 15:29:44 <smooge> bcotton, I don't think know.. I am speaking from reading the various emails so my view is incomplete and my answers may be all wrong 15:30:08 <bcotton> understood 15:30:36 <bcotton> Red Hat has a few apps in the App Store, so presumably there's someone who has the knowledge at least 15:31:03 <bcotton> #action bcotton to try to find a contact for Red Hat's apps in the App Store to see if they can provide some help 15:32:38 <bcotton> well i suppose that's all we can do about it right now 15:32:55 <mhroncok> ack 15:33:14 <bcotton> #topic Next meeting 15:33:16 <bcotton> #info We will meet again on 9 September at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting 15:34:12 <bcotton> thanks mhroncok and smooge! 15:34:15 <bcotton> #endmeeting