05:30:12 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
05:30:12 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Sep 22 05:30:12 2020 UTC.
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05:30:12 <paragan> #meetingname i18n
05:30:12 <paragan> #topic agenda and roll call
05:30:12 <paragan> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2020-09-22
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05:30:20 <mfabian> ☺
05:30:22 <vishal_vvr> Hi
05:30:26 <epico> hi
05:30:26 <suanand> hi ..
05:31:00 <petersen> here
05:31:41 <paragan> #chair mfabian vishal_vvr suanand epico petersen
05:31:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico mfabian paragan petersen suanand vishal_vvr
05:33:40 <paragan> Welcome to this Fedora i18n meeting. Last time we canceled meeting due to Fedora i18n testday on the same meeting day.
05:34:24 <paragan> Let's start with today's agenda topics
05:35:21 <paragan> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:35:43 <paragan> #info 2020-09-22 Beta Target date #1
05:35:43 <paragan> #info 2020-09-29 Current Beta Target Date
05:35:43 <paragan> #info 2020-10-06 Final Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC)
05:36:37 <paragan> Currently F33 beta release got delayed/slipped by one week due to more bugs that need to get fixed. Some of them are already fixed.
05:37:37 <paragan> https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/33/beta/buglist
05:38:24 <paragan> Also, Good to see Gnome 3.38 megaupdate is in frozen F33 compose. You can test it by getting any latest iso of F33.
05:38:35 <paragan> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-c79a16a0d6
05:39:30 <paragan> I think Fedora QA people has now requested to generate F33 Beta candidate iso
05:40:14 <petersen> aha
05:40:46 <paragan> hopefully it will be available by tomorrow
05:42:06 <paragan> anything else to discuss here related to F33 release cycle?
05:43:35 <paragan> let's move
05:43:44 <paragan> #topic issues
05:43:44 <paragan> #info #121: Fedora 33 i18n test day  (pnemade)
05:43:45 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/121
05:45:00 <paragan> 2 weeks back we had our i18n testday happened from 8th Sept for a week period
05:45:08 <petersen> Thanks for the test day, everyone!
05:45:18 <paragan> This time also we got good response from Fedora users
05:45:55 <paragan> Most people finished their testing in first 2 days only
05:46:37 <paragan> The testday summary is available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-09-08_I18N_Test_Day#Fedora_33_Test_Day_Report
05:47:05 <paragan> Good to see increased participation. we got 21 people who test i18n testcases during testday.
05:47:26 <petersen> Thanks
05:47:33 <paragan> The number of languages that got tested are almost same compared to last F32 testday.
05:47:47 <paragan> We got few bugs identified for this testday which we will look into and try to fix as soon as possible.
05:49:21 <paragan> any questions to discuss here for this testday topic?
05:50:55 <paragan> ok, let's move to next topic
05:51:25 <paragan> #info #120: Fedora 31 Bug triaging  (prigupta)
05:51:25 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/120
05:51:54 <paragan> #info Today's bug count is 28
05:52:22 <paragan> this ticket is to remind that we have some bugs still reported for F31 and we should triage them soon :)
05:54:53 <paragan> let's move to next ticket
05:55:19 <paragan> #info #119: Tracker for Fedora 33 Changes (pnemade)
05:55:19 <paragan> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/119
05:56:17 <paragan> I think we already got ibus Change implemented in Fedora 33 so I will close this ticket now
05:58:06 <paragan> done
05:58:45 <petersen> Yeah, I believe fujiwara is planning to rebase ibus post Beta with upstream release
05:59:14 <paragan> Okay
06:00:10 <paragan> Let's move to next topic
06:00:14 <paragan> #topic Open Floor
06:00:22 <paragan> anything to discuss here?
06:02:11 <petersen> I hadn't seen https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1809989
06:02:25 <petersen> We should improve our default font coverage
06:02:55 <petersen> Shame we don't have a good bugzilla component for general fonts issues
06:03:15 <petersen> (that was from the f31 list)
06:03:56 <petersen> I wonder if we should try to add a generic fonts component though
06:04:28 <paragan> hmm
06:04:42 <paragan> yeah, we will have a look at it
06:05:20 <paragan> about generic font component addition, not sure if its possible
06:05:56 <petersen> Because ?
06:06:37 <paragan> Ok lets ask Bugzilla admin
06:06:54 <petersen> Well there could be objections but I feel it is make good sense, actually wanted such a thing for a long time - putting into distribution feels like just a blackhole
06:07:18 <petersen> Well let me open a ticket for further discussion here at least
06:07:37 <paragan> sure
06:08:12 <petersen> Maybe nice to update the "tasks" link in the agenda to go straight to issues
06:09:06 <petersen> We have 4 open tickets (including the f31 one)
06:09:31 <petersen> https://pagure.io/i18n/issues
06:12:00 <paragan> but that link is References link
06:13:36 <petersen> Can't be changed?  Am I confused?
06:14:08 <paragan> I thought we are providing some information there, not link to issues
06:14:08 <petersen> Well rather, Yes
06:14:47 <paragan> similar to what we provides for Policy -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Policy
06:15:04 <petersen> Isn't it better just to link directly to issues?  Or am I missing another link?
06:15:31 <paragan> Ok we never advertised all issues/open issues link in our agenda
06:15:34 <petersen> or both?
06:15:40 <petersen> Right
06:15:46 <paragan> will check on adding that link
06:15:48 <petersen> We should I think
06:15:58 <petersen> And sometimes review
06:16:03 * paragan need to learn ruby :)
06:16:34 <petersen> haha
06:17:05 <petersen> Well it is just changing a link in the template I guess?
06:17:18 <petersen> Can https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/123 be closed?
06:17:44 <paragan> Sure.
06:18:03 <petersen> Do we need anything for the Docs beat?
06:18:55 <petersen> Or is it handled in the individual Changes?
06:18:58 <paragan> yes we need to check with Fujiwara-san, if he is ready with his ibus change documentation
06:19:04 <petersen> okay
06:19:59 <paragan> he already got his ticket to work on
06:20:14 <petersen> Or is it easier to track in the Changes ticket next time?
06:20:16 <paragan> https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issue/532
06:20:23 <petersen> Okay
06:20:57 <paragan> Ok we better stop creating separate doc beat ticket from next F34 cycle and instead discuss it in Change tracking ticket
06:21:22 <paragan> we generally start doc beat ticket discussion when Final freeze happens
06:21:42 <paragan> but yes good to check it before and have something written for the Change
06:22:01 <petersen> Yes
06:23:03 <paragan> let me ping Fujiwara-san on that doc ticket then
06:24:17 <petersen> Thanks!
06:24:18 <paragan> also I now think let's reopen F33 Change tracking ticket and track doc beat there also.
06:24:33 <petersen> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1730242 (ibus-sayura) is fixed now in ibus I guess
06:26:50 <paragan> Ok, I will close it
06:26:57 <petersen> I dunno who should own ibus-sayura, not me anyway :)
06:27:00 <paragan> let's go through other F31 bugs now
06:27:52 <paragan> I think MODIFIED bugs can be closed easily. Let me do that now.
06:31:11 <paragan> petersen, Also can we close this ticket https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/114 ?
06:31:44 <petersen> I dunno, we should revisit IMO
06:32:36 <paragan> Ok then let's discuss in next meeting and try to find some resolution in that meeting only.
06:33:54 * paragan will work to clear the Fedora 31 bugs list by next meeting
06:35:22 <petersen> paragan++
06:35:22 <zodbot> petersen: Karma for pnemade changed to 4 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
06:39:01 <paragan> So should we close this meeting or we still have topics to discuss?/
06:42:16 <paragan> Probably not
06:42:27 <paragan> Thanks who joined this meeting :)
06:42:30 <paragan> #endmeeting