14:00:59 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting
14:00:59 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton tdawson puiterwijk
14:00:59 <pwhalen> #topic roll call
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14:00:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton pbrobinson puiterwijk pwhalen tdawson
14:01:12 <bcotton> .hello2
14:01:13 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
14:01:18 * pbrobinson o/
14:04:29 * tdawson is here.
14:04:50 <pwhalen> Ok, looks like the usual suspects. Let's get started
14:04:59 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin  ====
14:04:59 <pwhalen> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/
14:05:10 * pwhalen clears the floor for bcotton
14:05:18 <bcotton> who me? :-)
14:05:23 <pwhalen> :P
14:05:52 <bcotton> #info Other than adding verification to getfedora.org/iot, nobody had further things to move from the old website
14:06:11 <bcotton> #action bcotton to request Infra to redirect iot.fedoraproject.org to getfedora.org/iot
14:06:17 <pbrobinson> bcotton: it looks fine to me
14:06:22 <bcotton> (i'll wait until i add the verification stuff to do that)
14:06:29 <pbrobinson> I did actually check things out last meeting
14:06:54 <pbrobinson> bcotton: oh, and armv7 raw images button, we've added that since beta
14:07:01 <bcotton> pbrobinson: ack!
14:07:35 <bcotton> i also need to draft a magazine article for pbrobinson , hopefully later this week, since we seem unlikely to be Go tomorrow
14:07:40 * coremodule here, late.
14:08:37 <bcotton> also, do we have meta docs for IoT? in other words, how we run meetings, use taiga, etc?
14:08:58 <pwhalen> any other admin?
14:09:00 <pbrobinson> bcotton: we should likely update that in the iot docs?
14:09:12 <pbrobinson> it's on my list to go through that
14:09:30 <bcotton> pbrobinson: agreed. i was thinking post-release i could help with that
14:09:56 * pwhalen is also happy to help post-release
14:09:57 <pbrobinson> bcotton: yes, that would be good, maybe have a call/sprint on it for an hour or so
14:10:01 <bcotton> in part because i want to use IoT as a reference for a more general "here's how to run your team" docs :-)
14:10:12 <pbrobinson> bcotton++ WFM
14:10:48 <bcotton> sounds good. i'll put a card on the board now and we can come back to it in november to figure out more details
14:11:12 <bcotton> EOF
14:12:03 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== Fedora 32 status ====
14:12:16 <pwhalen> #info Latest compose - Fedora-IoT-32-20201010.0
14:12:42 <pwhalen> I've not done too much testing, rebased to it, no issues
14:13:24 <pbrobinson> it seemed fine with the very basic testing I did
14:14:20 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Fedora 33 status ====
14:14:20 <pwhalen> #info Latest compose - Fedora-IoT-33-20201013.0
14:15:06 <pbrobinson> #info we now have ARMv7/armhfp issues, very little testing, looks to be an issue with one of the ostree services
14:15:06 <pwhalen> #info OpenQA testing  - https://openqa.stg.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=33&build=Fedora-IoT-33-20201013.0&groupid=6
14:15:34 <tdawson> Is there a specific board that the armv7 should work on?
14:15:36 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: can you add to your todo list to add armhfp to openqa
14:15:41 <pwhalen> clevis failed there, I'll take a look. Also zezere, but that worked using the fedora provisioning host
14:15:58 <tdawson> I only tested 2, and neither booted all the way.
14:16:03 <pbrobinson> tdawson: no, I saw the same issue you did on rpi2, I need to work out how to debug that service
14:16:10 <pwhalen> pbrobinson: yes. There are issues booting the images for arm, need to get back to it
14:16:10 <tdawson> OK
14:16:26 <pwhalen> I started to look at the boot issue reported by tdawson, reproduced and got the logs, need to file the bug.
14:16:45 <pbrobinson> tdawson: I think we'll aim for rpi2/rpi3/bbone as the references plus what ever boards vendors are going to test, I've had some interest from TI/STI
14:16:46 <tdawson> I've got a couple other armv7 boards, but since I didn't get very far with my main two, I haven't tested any of the others.
14:16:56 <tdawson> OK, I have those three.
14:18:12 <pbrobinson> tdawson: and a VM of course
14:18:26 <tdawson> Ah ... what's the fun of that. :)
14:19:25 <pwhalen> the container images work with podman on armhfp, tested on vanilla fedora
14:19:34 <tdawson> Cool
14:20:32 <pwhalen> we have a TC compose masquerading as an RC compose for vanilla fedora, do we plan one for iot?
14:20:50 <pwhalen> or wait til the issues are sorted there first?
14:21:08 <pwhalen> definitely doa with the pre-release messages still there
14:21:41 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: today's compose should have all the same things as the TC
14:22:11 <pwhalen> ok, will start with that too.
14:22:28 <pwhalen> Anything else for F33? Issues? Concerns?
14:23:04 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: and I will tag in the fedora-release/repos for the next compose too
14:23:29 <pbrobinson> nothing for me for F-33
14:23:31 <pwhalen> ok, perfect. I really hope we dont try to push this through for tomorrow. Will be difficult to get it all tested.
14:23:51 <pbrobinson> I think it's insanity just to tick boxes
14:24:01 <pbrobinson> especially with Friday being a RH refresh day
14:24:03 <tdawson> Other than the armv7 stuff already reported, the f33 release has done everything I wanted.
14:24:07 <pwhalen> yep
14:24:09 <tdawson> So I'm good.
14:24:27 <pwhalen> tdawson nice. Happy to hear. I'm always afraid of some gremlin hiding somewhere
14:24:27 <pbrobinson> yes, overall I'm fine with the release
14:24:42 <pbrobinson> that's just software TBH
14:24:51 <pwhalen> :)
14:25:32 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== Fedora Rawhide status ====
14:25:37 <pwhalen> Rawhide looks broken
14:25:46 <pwhalen> #undo
14:25:46 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x7fccc8d54650>
14:25:51 <pwhalen> sorry
14:26:18 <pbrobinson> which bit are you undoing? the new topic?
14:26:30 <pwhalen> yea, dont look like it did
14:26:31 <pwhalen> #undo
14:26:31 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by pwhalen at 14:15:06 : OpenQA testing  - https://openqa.stg.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=33&build=Fedora-IoT-33-20201013.0&groupid=6
14:26:46 <pwhalen> #info  https://openqa.stg.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=33&build=Fedora-IoT-33-20201013.0&groupid=6
14:26:48 <pwhalen> heh.
14:27:03 <pwhalen> coremodule, how you doing with the release criteria?
14:27:20 <pwhalen> was that merged over, removed from the docs?
14:27:27 * pwhalen hasnt looked, sorry
14:27:55 <coremodule> release criteria is merged! I haven't gotten to finishing the removal on the IoT docs (mostly because of my ineptitude with git). but will have that done this week
14:28:25 <pwhalen> my gitfu is weak too :)
14:28:36 <pwhalen> sounds good, thank you for that.
14:28:40 <pwhalen> coremodule++
14:28:53 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== Fedora Rawhide status ====
14:29:02 <coremodule> glad to hear I'm not the only one :)
14:29:04 <pwhalen> so, as mentioned, rawhide looks pretty broken overal
14:29:20 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: so general distro not just IoT?
14:30:18 <pwhalen> general, havent looked at why but openqa testing is failing all over
14:30:34 <pbrobinson> OK
14:31:10 <pwhalen> I've tested the kernel in rawhide, but thats all
14:32:09 <pbrobinson> I need to get to a 5.9 kernel test
14:32:14 <pwhalen> #topic 5) ==== Open Floor ====
14:32:37 <pbrobinson> nothing on this from my PoC
14:32:40 <pbrobinson> PoV even
14:33:04 <tdawson> Nothing from me
14:34:54 <pwhalen> thanks all!
14:34:56 <pwhalen> #endmeeting