15:06:37 #startmeeting Prioritized bugs and issues 15:06:37 Meeting started Wed Apr 7 15:06:37 2021 UTC. 15:06:37 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:06:37 The chair is bcotton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:06:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:06:37 The meeting name has been set to 'prioritized_bugs_and_issues' 15:06:47 #meetingname Fedora Prioritized bugs and issues 15:06:47 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_prioritized_bugs_and_issues' 15:06:51 #topic Purpose of this meeting 15:06:56 #info The purpose of this process is to help with processing backlog of bugs and issues found during the development, verification and use of Fedora distribution. 15:07:01 #info The main goal is to raise visibility of bugs and issues to help contributors focus on the most important issues. 15:07:10 #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/#_process_description 15:07:15 #topic Roll Call 15:07:22 I am here! 15:08:56 I guess it's just us! 15:08:58 #topic Nominated bugs 15:09:04 #info 1 nominated bugs 15:09:09 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=flagtypes.name&f2=OP&list_id=10871664&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&v1=fedora_prioritized_bug%3F 15:09:16 #topic hangs on execute 15:09:21 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1943382 15:09:36 I did not try this on Cinnamon, but it works for me in F34 on GNOME Workstation 15:09:37 also, ugh, element, please don't style my URLs 15:10:46 I note that the bug reporter here also tagged it as fedora-requires_release_note and needinfo 15:10:54 yeahhhh 15:10:57 the same day that the bug was filed 15:11:14 I vote -1 with some polite way of saying "you are misusing the process please don't do that" 15:11:16 i should check with pbokoc to see if we can get rid of fedora-requires_release_note 15:11:24 also "severity urgent" 15:11:48 We should clear all of the flags and reset it to normal priority 15:12:34 yeah, i think i agree 15:12:45 "Please don't escalate bugs to urgent severity unless you have determined that they affect many people or cause serious crashes or data loss." 15:13:36 bcotton, "get rid of" - do you mean for this BZ or in general? 15:13:41 proposed #agreed 1943382 -- Rejected Prioritized Bug -- This isn't reproducible in GNOME and so doesn't seem to be a widespread problem. 15:13:46 "Additionally, the Prioritized Bug process needs to be used sparingly so that it can remain effective. Please do not immediately nominate bugs as prioritized until other options have been explored." 15:13:53 pbokoc: in general. do you use it at all? 15:14:14 pratch "-- This has not been shown to be a widespread problem" 15:14:20 let's leave GNOME out of it 15:14:25 mattdm: i'm inclined to not say anything about the severity. it's so wild west that I get the sense that no one pays attention to it 15:14:29 mattdm: ack 15:14:32 bcotton, not really; I get like 1-2 bugs flagged with it per release and we prefer people open issues against the relnotes repo. I'm not sure how one would go about removing it though. 15:14:38 If you can do that it's perfectly fine with me 15:14:58 #agreed 1943382 -- Rejected Prioritized Bug -- This has not been shown to be a widespread problem 15:15:01 Ok, I'll let you put your official agreed there, and then I'll also reply 15:15:18 with my second quote above, and I'll at the same time clear all the things. 15:15:26 pbokoc: i can! i'll post to the docs ml to see if anyone is like "OMG PLEASE DON'T" 15:15:35 bcotton, ack 15:15:39 #topic Accepted bugs 15:15:45 #info 0 accepted bugs 15:15:50 yay! 15:15:53 everything is fine! 15:15:57 #link `https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=flagtypes.name&f2=OP&list_id=10871665&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&v1=fedora_prioritized_bug%2B` 15:16:04 let's see what zodbot does with that :-) 15:16:11 #topic Next meeting 15:16:18 #info We will meet again on 21 April at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 15:16:26 ack :) 15:16:27 oh! we're supposed to be in meeting-1 now 15:16:31 * mhroncok got distracted 15:16:47 #action bcotton to verify calendar event has the correct channel for this meeting 15:17:05 #action bcotton to post to docs ML about retiring the requires_release_note flag 15:17:15 #action bcotton to update bugs with today's decisions 15:17:17 anything else? 15:17:28 preferably anything that's not an "#action bcotton" ;-) 15:17:46 lol we're good. thanks all! 15:18:08 where all = mostly bcotton but also mhroncok for the end there :) 15:18:21 :) 15:18:24 don't forget pbokoc ! 15:18:28 oh yes also! 15:18:28 yeah, I'm all good 15:18:38 alrighty, thanks y'all! 15:18:40 #endmeeting