15:00:31 <coremodule> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting 15:00:31 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 5 15:00:31 2021 UTC. 15:00:31 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:31 <zodbot> The chair is coremodule. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:31 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:31 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_iot_working_group_meeting' 15:00:35 <coremodule> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton tdawson puiterwijk coremodule 15:00:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton coremodule pbrobinson puiterwijk pwhalen tdawson 15:00:45 <coremodule> #topic roll call 15:00:58 <bcotton> .hello2 15:00:59 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com> 15:01:11 <coremodule> Good morning IoT folks, who's around today to discuss the ins-and-outs of IoT? 15:01:16 <pwhalen> .hello2 15:01:17 <zodbot> pwhalen: pwhalen 'Paul Whalen' <pwhalen@redhat.com> 15:01:23 <pwhalen> Good mornign folks 15:01:29 <coremodule> Good morning bcotton 15:01:32 <coremodule> Good morning pwhalen 15:01:34 <bcotton> coremodule: wait, we're getting In-n-Out? 15:02:16 <coremodule> bcotton, I am... not at all opposed to that. So yes, please expect a package delivery in 3-5 business days. 15:02:34 <bcotton> delicious 15:05:03 <coremodule> well, let's get started 15:05:05 <coremodule> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin ==== 15:05:05 <coremodule> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/ 15:05:16 <coremodule> Anything new for the admin side of things? 15:05:34 <bcotton> oh, me! 15:05:51 <coremodule> take the floor bcotton!! 15:06:23 <bcotton> so i just launched a Program Management Team to do things like...the stuff I had intended to help IoT with but have been basically useless on for most of the time :-) 15:06:52 <coremodule> oooh fun! so what does this team entail? 15:07:03 <bcotton> so if the IoT team is interested in some more hands on program management support, i will open a ticket and let someone do actual work 15:07:26 <bcotton> I'm glad you asked! https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/pgm_team/ 15:08:20 <coremodule> Wow, okay! This looks great! And falls hand-in-hand with needing to update the docs... 15:09:08 <coremodule> #info bcotton recently set up a Program Management Team and has offered to release said team to work on various bits of Fedora IoT 15:09:31 <coremodule> #info see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/pgm_team/ for more info 15:10:13 <coremodule> Should we reach out to you bcotton to have a ticket made? 15:11:36 <coremodule> ah, I see. 15:12:04 <coremodule> #info To reach the Program Management Team and request help with a project, file a ticket here: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team 15:12:50 <coremodule> #topic 2) ==== Fedora 33 status ==== 15:12:50 <coremodule> 15:12:50 <coremodule> #info Latest - Fedora-IoT-33-20210420.0 15:12:50 <coremodule> #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=33&build=Fedora-IoT-33-20210420.0&groupid=1&groupid=5 15:12:57 <bcotton> yep! i'll be populating a template later today with the information we wan tto know 15:13:07 <coremodule> Anything new regarding F33 IoT status? 15:13:17 <coremodule> bcotton, sounds good! Thanks for the update 15:13:41 <pwhalen> no, f33 is now EOL on IoT.. Anyone who is on it updates to F34 next time they run updates 15:14:48 <pwhalen> Sorry, I should have removed from the agenda. 15:14:52 <coremodule> #info F33 is EOL on IoT since the launch of F34. The next time a user running F33 IoT updates their system, it should upgrade to F34. 15:15:10 <bcotton> do we have that documented somewhere? 15:15:23 <coremodule> pwhalen, no worries. I was wondering with the old link if it was still valid, but figured I'd post it anyway. 15:16:49 <coremodule> pwhalen, do you know if we have the update from f33 to f34 documented somewhere? see bcotton's comment ^^ 15:17:12 <pwhalen> Not sure, might be in the doc, would need to look 15:17:15 <bcotton> i'm also thinking the lifecycle part 15:18:02 <bcotton> because honestly, that surprised me (it probably shouldn't have), so i'd like to make sure that gets communicated in release announcements, on the general lifecycle docs, etc 15:19:37 <coremodule> just doing a quick search, I don't see anything specific to the lifecycle: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/rebasing/ 15:19:58 <pwhalen> I think in the past we've sent mail 15:20:11 <pwhalen> certainly be great to add 15:20:14 <coremodule> #info would be a good idea to open a docs ticket for a new page mentioning how the lifecycle on IoT works 15:20:32 <coremodule> I'll open a ticket and see what I can add 15:21:01 <coremodule> #topic 3) ==== Fedora 34 status ==== 15:21:01 <coremodule> 15:21:01 <coremodule> 15:21:01 <coremodule> #info Fedora-IoT-34-20210505.0 15:21:02 <coremodule> #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview.html?distri=fedora&version=34&build=Fedora-IoT-34-20210505.0&groupid=1 15:21:15 <coremodule> How about F34? Any status updates here? 15:21:21 <bcotton> it'd also be good to have some clarity on whether the N-1 release is EOL immediately or if there's an overlap 15:21:59 <bcotton> ooh coremodule is not here to dawdle :-) 15:22:08 <coremodule> thats a good question, I don't know the answer to that. I'll add that to the things-to-document in the ticket. 15:22:24 <coremodule> sorry! you just never know over irc who is still there on the other side :P 15:22:35 <coremodule> and bcotton, sometimes I wonder if you're all there 15:22:37 <coremodule> :) 15:23:25 <bcotton> oh i think it's pretty clear that i'm not all here ;-) 15:23:39 <pwhalen> Latest compose in F34 is looking good, will need to do some testing. 15:24:04 <pwhalen> We have a couple issue with podman on armhfp, not specific to iot 15:24:46 <pwhalen> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956537 15:25:02 <coremodule> #info There are issues with podman on armhfp, common to all armhfp images, not just IoT. See here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956537 15:25:03 <pwhalen> That one I mentioned yesterday, should be a relatively easy fix 15:25:47 <coremodule> gotcha, I remember that one 15:25:54 <pwhalen> the other - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956971 15:26:28 <coremodule> #undo 15:26:28 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by coremodule at 15:25:02 : There are issues with podman on armhfp, common to all armhfp images, not just IoT. See here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956537 15:26:45 <coremodule> #info There are issues with podman on armhfp, common to all armhfp images, not just IoT. See here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956537 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956971 15:27:08 <coremodule> #topic 4) ==== Fedora 35 (Rawhide) status ==== 15:27:09 <coremodule> 15:27:09 <coremodule> #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview.html?distri=fedora&version=35&build=Fedora-IoT-35-20210505.0&groupid=1 15:27:19 <coremodule> Looks like F35 is failing in openqa 15:27:47 <pwhalen> ..still failing, looks to be an issue with the needles, but havent looked 15:28:33 <pwhalen> F35 looks pretty good in vanilla fedora, will try some installs today to look 15:29:00 <coremodule> #info F35 is failing in openQA. pwhalen to try installing to see what's going on. 15:31:52 <coremodule> #topic 5) ==== Open Floor ==== 15:31:59 <coremodule> open floor, break out your dance moves 15:32:20 * pwhalen has nothign 15:33:21 <bcotton> i just want to know who posted this because i love it https://twitter.com/FedoraIoT/status/1389893519880474625 15:34:00 <coremodule> lol 15:35:08 * pbrobinson is late 15:35:23 <pbrobinson> bcotton: it was actually me who posted that ;-) 15:35:30 <pwhalen> lol 15:36:46 <pbrobinson> I did a couple of small docs fixes from community reports, I'd love people to take a better look than just me 15:37:59 <pwhalen> I've reviewed a little bit, will continue 15:39:00 <pwhalen> F35 installs looking ok so far. I think we just need to update the needles (little pictures openqa uses to compare) 15:39:09 <pbrobinson> would be great to have some other fresh eyes 15:39:45 <coremodule> pbrobinson, I'll take a look, but don't see the PR's in the iot-docs page. Do you have a link? 15:40:11 <bcotton> pbrobinson++ 15:40:11 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for pbrobinson changed to 6 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:40:17 <pbrobinson> coremodule: https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/iot-docs 15:40:47 <coremodule> yeah, I don't see any new or merged PRs there newer than a month ago 15:41:08 <pbrobinson> coremodule: I meant review the docs and file PRs for fixes 15:41:14 <coremodule> oh gotcha, sounds good 15:42:32 <coremodule> alright, well... please take a look through the iot-docs to update them/add to them, and we'll be back next week for another meeting! 15:42:48 <coremodule> meeting ending in 5 15:42:51 <coremodule> 4 15:42:54 <coremodule> 3 15:42:57 <coremodule> 2 15:43:00 <coremodule> 1 15:43:06 <coremodule> thanks all 15:43:07 <coremodule> #endmeeting