15:00:31 <coremodule> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting
15:00:31 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May  5 15:00:31 2021 UTC.
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15:00:35 <coremodule> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton tdawson puiterwijk coremodule
15:00:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton coremodule pbrobinson puiterwijk pwhalen tdawson
15:00:45 <coremodule> #topic roll call
15:00:58 <bcotton> .hello2
15:00:59 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
15:01:11 <coremodule> Good morning IoT folks, who's around today to discuss the ins-and-outs of IoT?
15:01:16 <pwhalen> .hello2
15:01:17 <zodbot> pwhalen: pwhalen 'Paul Whalen' <pwhalen@redhat.com>
15:01:23 <pwhalen> Good mornign folks
15:01:29 <coremodule> Good morning bcotton
15:01:32 <coremodule> Good morning pwhalen
15:01:34 <bcotton> coremodule: wait, we're getting In-n-Out?
15:02:16 <coremodule> bcotton, I am... not at all opposed to that. So yes, please expect a package delivery in 3-5 business days.
15:02:34 <bcotton> delicious
15:05:03 <coremodule> well, let's get started
15:05:05 <coremodule> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin  ====
15:05:05 <coremodule> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/
15:05:16 <coremodule> Anything new for the admin side of things?
15:05:34 <bcotton> oh, me!
15:05:51 <coremodule> take the floor bcotton!!
15:06:23 <bcotton> so i just launched a Program Management Team to do things like...the stuff I had intended to help IoT with but have been basically useless on for most of the time :-)
15:06:52 <coremodule> oooh fun! so what does this team entail?
15:07:03 <bcotton> so if the IoT team is interested in some more hands on program management support, i will open a ticket and let someone do actual work
15:07:26 <bcotton> I'm glad you asked! https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/pgm_team/
15:08:20 <coremodule> Wow, okay! This looks great! And falls hand-in-hand with needing to update the docs...
15:09:08 <coremodule> #info bcotton recently set up a Program Management Team and has offered to release said team to work on various bits of Fedora IoT
15:09:31 <coremodule> #info see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/pgm_team/ for more info
15:10:13 <coremodule> Should we reach out to you bcotton to have a ticket made?
15:11:36 <coremodule> ah, I see.
15:12:04 <coremodule> #info To reach the Program Management Team and request help with a project, file a ticket here: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team
15:12:50 <coremodule> #topic 2) ==== Fedora 33 status ====
15:12:50 <coremodule> 
15:12:50 <coremodule> #info Latest - Fedora-IoT-33-20210420.0
15:12:50 <coremodule> #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=33&build=Fedora-IoT-33-20210420.0&groupid=1&groupid=5
15:12:57 <bcotton> yep! i'll be populating a template later today with the information we wan tto know
15:13:07 <coremodule> Anything new regarding F33 IoT status?
15:13:17 <coremodule> bcotton, sounds good! Thanks for the update
15:13:41 <pwhalen> no, f33 is now EOL on IoT.. Anyone who is on it updates to F34 next time they run updates
15:14:48 <pwhalen> Sorry, I should have removed from the agenda.
15:14:52 <coremodule> #info F33 is EOL on IoT since the launch of F34. The next time a user running F33 IoT updates their system, it should upgrade to F34.
15:15:10 <bcotton> do we have that documented somewhere?
15:15:23 <coremodule> pwhalen, no worries. I was wondering with the old link if it was still valid, but figured I'd post it anyway.
15:16:49 <coremodule> pwhalen, do you know if we have the update from f33 to f34 documented somewhere? see bcotton's comment ^^
15:17:12 <pwhalen> Not sure, might be in the doc, would need to look
15:17:15 <bcotton> i'm also thinking the lifecycle part
15:18:02 <bcotton> because honestly, that surprised me (it probably shouldn't have), so i'd like to make sure that gets communicated in release announcements, on the general lifecycle docs, etc
15:19:37 <coremodule> just doing a quick search, I don't see anything specific to the lifecycle: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/rebasing/
15:19:58 <pwhalen> I think in the past we've sent mail
15:20:11 <pwhalen> certainly be great to add
15:20:14 <coremodule> #info would be a good idea to open a docs ticket for a new page mentioning how the lifecycle on IoT works
15:20:32 <coremodule> I'll open a ticket and see what I can add
15:21:01 <coremodule> #topic 3) ==== Fedora 34 status ====
15:21:01 <coremodule> 
15:21:01 <coremodule> 
15:21:01 <coremodule> #info Fedora-IoT-34-20210505.0
15:21:02 <coremodule> #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview.html?distri=fedora&version=34&build=Fedora-IoT-34-20210505.0&groupid=1
15:21:15 <coremodule> How about F34? Any status updates here?
15:21:21 <bcotton> it'd also be good to have some clarity on whether the N-1 release is EOL immediately or if there's an overlap
15:21:59 <bcotton> ooh coremodule is not here to dawdle :-)
15:22:08 <coremodule> thats a good question, I don't know the answer to that. I'll add that to the things-to-document in the ticket.
15:22:24 <coremodule> sorry! you just never know over irc who is still there on the other side :P
15:22:35 <coremodule> and bcotton, sometimes I wonder if you're all there
15:22:37 <coremodule> :)
15:23:25 <bcotton> oh i think it's pretty clear that i'm not all here ;-)
15:23:39 <pwhalen> Latest compose in F34 is looking good, will need to do some testing.
15:24:04 <pwhalen> We have a couple issue with podman on armhfp, not specific to iot
15:24:46 <pwhalen> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956537
15:25:02 <coremodule> #info There are issues with podman on armhfp, common to all armhfp images, not just IoT. See here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956537
15:25:03 <pwhalen> That one I mentioned yesterday, should be a relatively easy fix
15:25:47 <coremodule> gotcha, I remember that one
15:25:54 <pwhalen> the other - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956971
15:26:28 <coremodule> #undo
15:26:28 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by coremodule at 15:25:02 : There are issues with podman on armhfp, common to all armhfp images, not just IoT. See here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956537
15:26:45 <coremodule> #info There are issues with podman on armhfp, common to all armhfp images, not just IoT. See here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956537 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1956971
15:27:08 <coremodule> #topic 4) ==== Fedora 35 (Rawhide) status ====
15:27:09 <coremodule> 
15:27:09 <coremodule> #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview.html?distri=fedora&version=35&build=Fedora-IoT-35-20210505.0&groupid=1
15:27:19 <coremodule> Looks like F35 is failing in openqa
15:27:47 <pwhalen> ..still failing, looks to be an issue with the needles, but havent looked
15:28:33 <pwhalen> F35 looks pretty good in vanilla fedora, will try some installs today to look
15:29:00 <coremodule> #info F35 is failing in openQA. pwhalen to try installing to see what's going on.
15:31:52 <coremodule> #topic 5) ==== Open Floor ====
15:31:59 <coremodule> open floor, break out your dance moves
15:32:20 * pwhalen has nothign
15:33:21 <bcotton> i just want to know who posted this because i love it https://twitter.com/FedoraIoT/status/1389893519880474625
15:34:00 <coremodule> lol
15:35:08 * pbrobinson is late
15:35:23 <pbrobinson> bcotton: it was actually me who posted that ;-)
15:35:30 <pwhalen> lol
15:36:46 <pbrobinson> I did a couple of small docs fixes from community reports, I'd love people to take a better look than just me
15:37:59 <pwhalen> I've reviewed a little bit, will continue
15:39:00 <pwhalen> F35 installs looking ok so far. I think we just need to update the needles (little pictures openqa uses to compare)
15:39:09 <pbrobinson> would be great to have some other fresh eyes
15:39:45 <coremodule> pbrobinson, I'll take a look, but don't see the PR's in the iot-docs page. Do you have a link?
15:40:11 <bcotton> pbrobinson++
15:40:11 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for pbrobinson changed to 6 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:40:17 <pbrobinson> coremodule: https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/iot-docs
15:40:47 <coremodule> yeah, I don't see any new or merged PRs there newer than a month ago
15:41:08 <pbrobinson> coremodule: I meant review the docs and file PRs for fixes
15:41:14 <coremodule> oh gotcha, sounds good
15:42:32 <coremodule> alright, well... please take a look through the iot-docs to update them/add to them, and we'll be back next week for another meeting!
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15:43:06 <coremodule> thanks all
15:43:07 <coremodule> #endmeeting