15:00:49 #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting 15:00:49 Meeting started Wed May 12 15:00:49 2021 UTC. 15:00:49 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:49 The chair is coremodule. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:49 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_iot_working_group_meeting' 15:00:50 #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton tdawson puiterwijk coremodule 15:00:50 Current chairs: bcotton coremodule pbrobinson puiterwijk pwhalen tdawson 15:00:50 #topic roll call 15:01:00 * pwhalen is here 15:01:06 good morning/afternoon all, who's ready for IoT fun today? 15:01:12 .hello2 15:01:13 bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' 15:01:45 * pbrobinson o/ 15:03:06 let's get started 15:03:07 #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin  ==== 15:03:07 #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/ 15:03:42 per bcotton's suggestion last week, I have opened a ticket for documenting the IoT lifecycle: https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/iot-docs/issue/66 15:04:13 perhaps I can pick pbrobinson and pwhalen's brains after the meeting about this write up a page about this? 15:04:17 I started to look at the docs last week, got a little distracted but will continue again this wek 15:04:34 coremodule++ 15:04:34 bcotton: Karma for coremodule changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:06:23 coremodule: sounds good 15:06:39 alright, moving on 15:06:40 #topic 2) ==== Fedora 34 status ==== 15:06:40 #info Fedora-IoT-34-20210512.1 15:06:40 #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?build=Fedora-IoT-34-20210512.1&distri=fedora&version=34&groupid=5 15:06:55 looks like most is passing in openQA for F34 15:07:13 just clevis is failing 15:07:34 https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?build=Fedora-IoT-34-20210512.1&distri=fedora&version=34&groupid=5&groupid=1 15:07:35 pwhalen, do you think this is because of the old needles? 15:08:18 clevis on aarch64 is failing because it gets a black screen 15:08:51 Hopefully get it fixed this cycle, I set up openqa locally again to add some tests 15:09:54 I was looking at the f35 issues this morning and saw this bug - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1949825 15:10:25 we test that rebase in openqa, it doesnt fail there on either arch 15:11:13 Not sure what went wrong, but I think we can close it 15:11:55 i remember seeing this bug a while back too, but could not reproduce it on hardware 15:12:12 i think this was brought up at the first go/no-go? or was it here? 15:12:12 or ask for more info.. this came out of the test iirc 15:12:22 I think here 15:12:55 I can ask lily for more testing with the latest image to see if she still hits it 15:13:43 Sure. Anyone aware of any other issues in f34? 15:14:32 #info ask lnie for testing with the latest image regarding 1949825 15:15:01 #topic 3) ==== Fedora 35 (Rawhide) status ==== 15:15:01 #info Fedora-IoT-35-20210508.0 15:15:01 #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview.html?distri=fedora&version=35&build=Fedora-IoT-35-20210508.0&groupid=1 15:16:22 how about F35, any issues to report? 15:16:38 coremodule: you can show both arches by adding the other group at the end - ie https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview.html?distri=fedora&version=35&build=Fedora-IoT-35-20210508.0&groupid=1&groupid=5 15:17:07 so here we had some needle issues 15:17:08 ahhh, cool. thank you 15:18:55 #info issues with old needles are causing tests on F35 in openQA to fail 15:19:28 in rawhide we have a couple issues, redboot-auto-reboot.service is failing 15:19:37 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1959861 15:20:43 and rpm-ostree overlay isnt working.. not sure if they're related.. install seems ok, then on reboot it rollsback. Still looking at that one 15:21:54 also during the boot I see "[FAILED] Failed to start PARSEC-encrypted DBus secrets daemon." , but when I check the service after boot, its running 15:23:28 needle issue - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1959160 15:24:22 the needle issue also affected generic F34 installs (not just IoT) 15:24:51 #info some issues are affecting F35 right now, redboot-auto-reboot.service is failing: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1959861 15:25:10 #info there is a needles issue for F35: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1959160 15:26:38 anything else for F35? 15:27:08 that's it for me 15:27:43 #topic 4) ==== Open Floor ==== 15:29:00 wondering what people think about a fun magazine article regarding Fedora IoT to get more people interested (I know bcotton, I *will* finish the astrophotography article :P) 15:29:21 +1 to that 15:29:30 like a small project-type of thing that can be done with Fedora IoT that can be documented and posted up to generate some interest 15:30:01 anyone have any ideas for a project? 15:30:51 sounds great 15:33:16 project might be the harder part..maybe whatever you're using the other pi for? 15:33:25 you mentioned it had a job 15:33:28 well, if anyone has any great ideas that could be turned into an article, please send them my way! 15:33:57 ah yeah, its just controlling my NAS, but not with iot... 15:34:38 but that could be a good article! 15:34:53 anything else for the open floor, or should we adjourn for this week? 15:35:03 ooh 15:35:05 I was also looking at rewriting or adding to our existing podman test, to have something running rootless.. but wasn't sure.. what 15:35:21 does someone else want to open the "please help us" ticket for the PgM team, or do you want me to? 15:36:10 lol, I can do that bcotton. okay to ask specifically for help tweaking/adding to/fixing the docs? 15:36:37 um... i suppose 15:36:38 :-) 15:36:49 i can't promise anyone on the team has that skill at this point 15:37:00 but at least they can do more to help than i've done in the last year :-) 15:37:21 maybe you should open the ticket then and custom-tailor it to the pgm team's skillset? 15:37:55 well it depends what the iot team wants help with :-) 15:38:11 i was thinking things like bug triage and keeping up with the kanban board 15:38:21 you know, program managementy stuff :-) 15:38:37 ah yes, the great iot conundrum 15:38:38 I can definitely use help with bug triage.. general testing 15:38:58 or maybe everything is going fine and adding someone from the pgm team wouldn't be valuable 15:40:09 you can take a look at https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/pgm_team/#_duties and decide if that's valuable or not 15:40:40 thanks 15:40:47 if we have someone with docs and/or testing skills they can help with that, too. or maybe someone would like to learn those 15:42:00 I wouldn't mind passing some docs hacking knowledge around. or at least standing by in case there are questions... 15:42:55 I'll open a docs ticket and see what happens. I'll offer my support should anyone become interested... 15:43:04 cool. it'd defintiely be good to get more of that around Fedora generally :-) 15:43:31 i gotta run for now, but if you want to talk about it more, i'll be in #fedora-iot or #fedora-pgm :-) 15:43:38 (or like....a billion other channels) 15:43:49 sounds good! let's end this meeting... 15:44:02 thanks for the attendance. see you all next week! 15:44:06 #endmeeting