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05:30:28 <mfabian> ☺
05:30:33 <paragan> Hi
05:30:34 <priyam_> #topic agenda and roll call
05:30:57 <priyam_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2021-08-09
05:30:58 <suanand> hi
05:31:21 <vishalvvr> Hi
05:31:35 <priyam_> #chair mfabian paragan suanand vishalvvr
05:31:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: mfabian paragan priyam_ suanand vishalvvr
05:31:59 <priyam_> Let's start with today's agenda
05:32:13 <priyam_> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:32:33 <juhp> hello
05:32:36 <priyam_> #info 2021-08-10 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
05:32:47 <priyam_> #info 2021-08-10 Branch Fedora Linux 35 from Rawhide
05:33:05 <priyam_> #info 2021-08-10 Rawhide starts Fedora Linux 36 development
05:33:17 <priyam_> #info 2021-08-10 Post-branch Freeze (end date approximate)
05:33:26 <priyam_> #info 2021-08-24 Bodhi updates-testing activation point
05:34:22 <priyam_> #chair juhp
05:34:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: juhp mfabian paragan priyam_ suanand vishalvvr
05:34:40 <juhp> Ya tomorrow
05:35:13 <priyam_> yeah :)
05:36:21 <priyam_> Does anyone have any upcoming schedule to be mentioned here?
05:36:59 <paragan> just want to mention here
05:37:08 <paragan> i18n day is in 1 month time
05:37:15 <paragan> testday event
05:37:42 <juhp> We don't need a ticket?
05:38:03 <vishalvvr> we have one
05:38:13 <paragan> we already have i18n testday event ticket https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/136
05:39:04 <juhp> Do we need it on the agenda?
05:39:41 <paragan> if someone need any discussion we can have it today also
05:39:57 <paragan> but better add it on agenda from next meeting
05:40:06 <juhp> At least yes
05:40:20 <vishalvvr> paragan +1
05:40:33 <juhp> That is the only meeting before the test day iirc
05:40:44 <priyam_> yes,thanks paragan will add that ticket into agenda from next meeting
05:40:48 <juhp> So too late IMHO
05:41:18 <paragan> priyam_, add testday ticket to discussion in this meeting
05:41:42 <priyam_> okay,sure
05:42:35 <juhp> Thanks
05:45:27 <priyam_> if nothing more to discuss here let's move on the next topic
05:45:41 <priyam_> #topic Issues
05:45:57 <priyam_> #info #139: brainstorming for i18n-Podcast
05:46:05 <priyam_> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/139
05:46:35 <juhp> I want to say sorry for dropping the momentum on this - I have just been too busy with F35 work to find any time
05:46:56 <juhp> I wish the podcast org was a little more patient though
05:47:14 <mfabian> https://pagure.io/fedora-podcast/issue/43 <- page not found
05:47:15 <juhp> Not sure what happened to the ticket but nvm
05:47:52 <juhp> I can't help jumping to the conclusion that it was deleted but maybe there is a better explanation
05:48:12 <juhp> Anyway still want to do it some time
05:48:44 <juhp> I never said I would do it immediately - - just thought it was good to get into the pipeline
05:49:15 <juhp> x3mboy: maybe you know?
05:49:45 <juhp> I was away for the last meeting (today is actually also a holiday here and in Japan)
05:50:13 <juhp> I will see what can be done this month perhaps
05:51:08 <priyam_> sure juhp.Thanks for the updates.
05:52:17 <priyam_> moving onto the next ticket if nothing more to discuss here
05:53:04 <priyam_> #info #135: Fedora 33 Bug triaging
05:53:14 <priyam_> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/135
05:53:39 <priyam_> Total bug count is 36 as of today.
05:54:33 <priyam_> Does anyone wants to discuss over any bug here ?
05:55:43 <juhp> Still a few of us have bugs listed - it would be great to triage/update them: ie move to a newer release if still relevant or close if cannot be fixed for f33
05:56:02 <juhp> Or ping the reporter etc
05:56:44 <vishalvvr> I have few which are fixed already, will do it before next meeting :)
05:56:56 <juhp> Not what to do with stardict
05:57:41 <juhp> It is also a good habit to groom packages bug and keep them on the newest reproducible release
05:57:48 <juhp> package bugs
05:58:10 <vishalvvr> infact i was unaware of this dashboard https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org
05:58:10 <juhp> Not sure what to do with stardict - I think epico is also away today
05:58:22 <juhp> Ah yes it is pretty neat
05:58:59 <juhp> I found a bunch of pagure pull requests there 😬
05:59:13 <juhp> How do people notice PRs?
05:59:24 <juhp> Maybe I don't filter mine right
06:00:36 <paragan> I notice them in my inbox
06:00:47 <juhp> Cool
06:01:01 <juhp> I need to check my filters then
06:03:27 <priyam_> if nothing more to discuss here let's move on the next topic
06:03:43 <priyam_> #info #134: Tracker for Fedora 35 Changes
06:03:58 <priyam_> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/134
06:04:26 <paragan> Inscript2 change implementation is completed and its testable now in rawhide/f35
06:04:41 <juhp> Nice
06:05:49 <mfabian> paragan: You mentioned that you did add new inscript2 methods?
06:06:23 <juhp> I see inscript2 listed first for Hindi :-) in gnome
06:06:31 <paragan> if you mean by completing the inscript2 implementation then yes its done in latest m17n-db build
06:07:11 <mfabian> ks-inscript2.mim does not yet exist on f34.
06:07:25 <paragan> yes I asked help for that
06:07:40 <paragan> that is the only method not in input selection box
06:07:41 <juhp> Pondering if Hindi should be listed on the top level....
06:07:57 <paragan> mfabian, this is F35 change
06:08:07 <paragan> I don't want to push to F34 also
06:08:24 <paragan> if people think we can push it to F34 as well. I can do that.
06:08:27 <juhp> I guess pushing m17n-db to F34 should be harmless?
06:09:16 <paragan> Ok. Let me build it for F34 now.
06:10:22 <paragan> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=73541803
06:10:36 <juhp> Okay
06:11:18 <juhp> I don't think ibus-1.5.25 is released yet - though some of the change may already be in rawhide
06:12:00 <juhp> Ohh I see fujiwara_ pushed gtk4 fix to rawhide!!
06:12:07 <juhp> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1815936
06:12:31 <juhp> an hour ago
06:12:47 <juhp> That should be good for our testday
06:13:12 <juhp> Nice
06:13:13 <paragan> nice
06:15:01 <priyam_> Thanks for the updates.if nothing more to discuss here let's move on the next topic
06:15:19 <priyam_> #info #131: review/update @fonts group default packages: non-language specific extra fonts etc
06:15:25 <priyam_> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/131
06:16:31 <juhp> Yes thanks...
06:16:44 <juhp> So pt-sans-fonts changed was merged into comps
06:17:15 <juhp> The adobe-source-code-pro-fonts WS ticket opened a long discussion...
06:17:36 <juhp> tagoh proposed to a Noto fonts Change idea for F36
06:17:48 <juhp> So I am pretty happy with the outcomes from this ticket
06:18:05 <juhp> Maybe we can revisit our default fonts again after F36 say
06:18:26 <juhp> Any other thoughts?
06:19:01 <juhp> I feel the ticket can probably be closed by the next meeting
06:20:13 <juhp> TLDR basically seems Desktop people don't want to revert to dejavu for mono, but rather pushing for moving to Noto as desktop default font
06:20:33 <juhp> Noto will also provide UI fonts that could replace cantarell
06:21:02 <juhp> So I guess there won't be a mono change there for f35
06:21:17 <juhp> Also KDE is already defaulting to Noto apparently - I want to test that
06:21:26 <juhp> Fedora KDE iiuc?
06:22:27 <juhp> We can discuss more on Noto etc in future meetings - tagoh is also away today
06:23:48 <priyam_> sure,thanks juhp for the updates.
06:24:37 <priyam_> Moving onto the next ticket if nothing more to discuss here.
06:25:12 <priyam_> #info #136: Fedora 35 i18n test day
06:25:21 <priyam_> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/136
06:26:08 <paragan> I will setup testday event pages by 30th August
06:26:57 <juhp> I am thinking if we should do some testcase review workshops/meetings
06:27:14 <juhp> This month
06:27:56 <juhp> I feel haven't given them much love for a while
06:28:00 <juhp> Would that make sense?
06:28:15 <vishalvvr> juhp +1
06:28:58 <juhp> Also some tests could possibly be dropped
06:29:24 <juhp> I guess we need to refer to the F34 testday for now
06:30:14 <vishalvvr> #link https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/101
06:30:48 <juhp> Alright maybe I bring it up next time again and we can setup one or two meetings for it
06:31:00 <juhp> (I don't feel we can do justice for it here)
06:31:15 <juhp> Probably video call(s) will be better
06:31:27 <priyam_> juhp +1
06:31:36 <paragan> +1
06:32:39 <juhp> vishalvvr: thanks for the link
06:33:39 <juhp> Cool
06:34:02 <priyam_> if nothing more to discuss here let's move on the next topic
06:35:20 <priyam_> #openfloor
06:36:03 <juhp> So did anyone enjoy Nest?
06:36:19 <vishalvvr> Yes :)
06:36:25 <priyam_> #topic openfloor
06:36:29 <juhp> I am still recovering from jetlag, lol ;o)
06:36:38 <vishalvvr> :P
06:37:06 <juhp> There were a few l10n related talks
06:37:35 <priyam_> Do we have recordings as well from the Nest event ?
06:37:36 <paragan> yeah it was nice conference with many talks to attend which talked about latest things happening in Fedora
06:37:49 <juhp> Though not really i18n presence for content - I hope we could do better there next time
06:37:54 <juhp> Yes
06:38:02 <vishalvvr> priyam_, they will be uploaded soon on youtube channel
06:38:24 <vishalvvr> #link https://www.youtube.com/fedoraproject
06:38:31 <juhp> I am curious about the Contributor Survey results
06:38:31 <priyam_> Okay. Thanks vishalvvr :)
06:39:11 <juhp> Yes, they mention September, so may have to be a little patient
06:39:28 <juhp> But hopefully in a few weeks
06:39:33 <juhp> We can see them
06:40:55 <paragan> yes
06:41:41 <juhp> Oh interesting - seems mentioning a pagure ticket in another link it
06:41:47 <juhp> links
06:42:35 <juhp> fm-workstation	pagure.issue.comment.added -- petersen commented on ticket i18n#131: "review/update default installed fonts packages from @fonts, etc" https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/131#comment-746830
06:42:49 <juhp> from #fedora-workstation
06:44:19 <juhp> Maybe not linked hmm - rather the bot picks it up?
06:44:28 <juhp> Not sure how that works
06:44:37 <paragan> yes
06:44:41 <paragan> bot is setup
06:45:09 <vishalvvr> yes, we do have for pythonpune as well.
06:45:16 <vishalvvr> bot takes care of it
06:45:26 <juhp> Well could be a pagure feature I dunno
06:46:21 <juhp> Ya, but the workstation bot watched this i18n ticket is the point
06:46:36 <juhp> Anyway
06:47:27 <paragan> https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/blob/main/f/roles/fedmsg/irc/templates/ircbot.py#_535
06:48:00 <juhp> Ah thank you!
06:48:40 <juhp> body=["^((?!(fedora-workstation)).)*$",],
06:48:52 <juhp> Makes sense then
06:50:05 <juhp> Though I don't know how to parse the regexp
06:50:53 <juhp> Anyway I will shutup now :-)
06:51:02 <vishalvvr> :P
06:51:10 <vishalvvr> try this https://regex101.com
06:52:32 <juhp> vishalvvr: thank you - that is a cool site!
06:52:45 <juhp> But why the negative match?
06:53:20 <juhp> I think I read that only perl regexps support negative matching?
06:53:51 <vishalvvr> hmm.. no idea need to check
06:54:52 <paragan> close this meeting
06:55:00 <vishalvvr> i think we are over the time
06:55:06 <priyam_> as we already exceed our time if nothing more to discuss let's close the meeting :)
06:55:10 <priyam_> yeah
06:55:28 <priyam_> Thank you everyone for joining
06:55:41 <juhp> Thanks priyam_
06:55:43 <vishalvvr> Thank you everyone :)
06:55:47 <paragan> priyam_,  Thank you
06:55:52 <priyam_> #endmeeting