17:01:40 <bcotton> #startmeeting Council (2021-09-30)
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17:01:53 <bcotton> #chair bookwar dcantrell siddharthvipul1 riecatnor spot mattdm bcotton sumantrom marianab bt0 rparimisheher[m] t0xic0der
17:01:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton bookwar dcantrell siddharthvipul1 riecatnor spot mattdm bcotton sumantrom bt0 marianab rparimisheher[m] t0xic0der
17:01:58 <bcotton> #topic Introductions, Welcomes
17:02:05 <t0xic0der> .hi
17:02:06 <bcotton> hey friends, who is here today?
17:02:06 <zodbot> t0xic0der: t0xic0der 'Akashdeep Dhar' <akashdeep.dhar@gmail.com>
17:02:11 <dcantrell> .hello2
17:02:12 <zodbot> dcantrell: dcantrell 'David Cantrell' <dcantrell@redhat.com>
17:02:19 <bt0> .hello2
17:02:19 <zodbot> bt0: Sorry, but user 'bt0' does not exist
17:02:28 <bt0> .hello bt0dotninja
17:02:29 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
17:02:34 <bt0> Hi
17:02:36 <bt0> :)
17:02:45 <Eighth_Doctor> .hello ngompa
17:02:46 <zodbot> Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com>
17:03:09 <riecatnor[m]> for some reason my IRC isn't working
17:03:18 <riecatnor[m]> .hello riecatnor
17:03:19 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
17:03:28 <riecatnor[m]> hi peeps :)
17:03:40 <bt0> o/
17:03:54 <bcotton> IRC: Irritate Rie Cat?
17:03:58 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor
17:03:59 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
17:04:14 <riecatnor[m]> ok, wow that was sooo delayed
17:04:36 <riecatnor[m]> shrug
17:04:54 <bcotton> we get there eventually :-)
17:04:58 <bcotton> #topic Today's agenda
17:05:05 <bcotton> #info Objective session at the release party
17:05:13 <bcotton> #info In-person events
17:05:17 <bcotton> #info Your topics here!
17:05:29 <bcotton> #topic Objective session at the release party
17:05:40 <bcotton> all you, riecatnor riecatnor
17:06:05 <riecatnor[m]> sure, mattdm_ and I were discussing topics for the upcoming release party and Objectives came up
17:06:31 <riecatnor[m]> We have been low on them for some time, not many new things in the pipeline.. the idea is to create awareness and visibility
17:07:23 <riecatnor[m]> I think it would be great to take this on as the Council- basically, I am asking for a couple volunteers to help make the presentation a success :)
17:08:01 <bcotton> what does success look like here?
17:09:26 <riecatnor[m]> great question- I think the final product is a 25 minute session with slides that covers the basics of objectives, examples of past objectives and hopefully empowers folks with ideas to submit them
17:10:12 <bcotton> i humbly submit that our current objective leads would be good candidates to help :-)
17:11:16 <riecatnor[m]> I support that :) but open to whomever might be interested
17:12:49 <bcotton> anyone want to volunteer right now?
17:14:07 <bcotton> well, the offer is there. and i think riecatnor should feel empowered to draft people if no one volunteers :-D
17:15:09 <bcotton> #topic In-person events
17:15:16 <bcotton> #link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/379
17:15:20 <bcotton> oh hey, it's riecatnor time again!
17:15:28 <riecatnor[m]> :)
17:15:59 <riecatnor[m]> This came up because Mindshare received a request for swag for an in person event
17:16:18 <riecatnor[m]> I think we will start to see more requests, and I would like to have an established stance
17:17:00 <riecatnor[m]> I put questions on the ticket, we could hash them out now, or folks can leave thoughts there
17:17:09 <riecatnor[m]> What health safety standards are we holding events to?
17:17:09 <riecatnor[m]> The Mindshare process should be revised- what information will we require from folks requesting support?
17:17:09 <riecatnor[m]> Are other communities addressing/thinking about this?
17:17:09 <riecatnor[m]> What to do if we decide to support an event that later violates safety precautions?
17:17:57 <riecatnor[m]> I think these questions are a good place to start.
17:18:04 <bcotton> so i think we should split it into multiple questions: providing swag, sponsoring, and paying for people to travel/attend
17:18:20 <bcotton> (maybe the sponsorship one belongs with one of the other two)
17:19:10 <bcotton> i don't know if we want to have our own set of safety rules or just say "you solemnly swear you will follow the local requirements"
17:19:51 <riecatnor[m]> I think asking for a dated local mandate + the event guidelines
17:20:00 <riecatnor[m]> would be reasonable
17:21:08 <bcotton> is the idea checking that they followed them, or just knowing what they are to inform the decision process
17:21:58 <bcotton> e.g. if the local guidelines say "everyone must stand within 2 feet of another person at all times and sneeze on everything" then we will decide to decline funding?
17:22:01 <riecatnor[m]> the second, I think it would be very difficult for us to confirm that they were followed
17:22:32 <riecatnor[m]> if they said that, yes lol
17:22:38 <copperi[m]1> Trust on people ?
17:23:35 <riecatnor[m]> Another point to acknowledge is that we need to adhere to Red Hat's current policies on supporting community events
17:23:44 <bt0> right
17:24:19 <bcotton> are those available publicly? because that would be very helpful
17:24:36 <riecatnor[m]> good question, Ben- I am not sure, I will have to look into it
17:25:09 <bcotton> copperi: yeah, i think we should trust people. but if we find out that someone completely ignored the local policy, they should expect to have a hard time the next time they ask for money :-)
17:25:33 <copperi[m]1> Ben: yes
17:25:46 <riecatnor[m]> Its less about trusting or distrust and more about making sure Fedorans are safe
17:25:58 <riecatnor[m]> imo
17:27:43 <bcotton> anyone else have thoughts?
17:28:04 <bt0> not here
17:30:34 <bcotton> riecatnor, bt0  does mindshare need immediate input or do they have what they need for the pending request?
17:30:47 <riecatnor[m]> we have what we need for the immediate request
17:30:54 <bcotton> cool
17:31:28 <bcotton> i may write up a strawman proposal for us to discuss later, but if anyone else wants to beat me to it, please feel free :-)
17:32:50 <bcotton> #topic Next meeting
17:32:57 <bcotton> #info The next video meeting is Thursday 14 October. It will take place an hour earlier. The topic will be Matrix
17:33:01 <bcotton> #info The next regular business meeting is Thursday 28 October
17:33:08 <bcotton> #topic Do we have anything to announce?
17:33:15 <bcotton> #info This is a regular check to make sure we're communicating to the contributor (via CommBlog) and user (via Magazine) communities
17:33:19 <bcotton> #info Previously announced
17:33:23 <bcotton> #info Nest videos are posted
17:33:31 <bcotton> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-2021-recordings-now-available/
17:34:35 <bcotton> #info Fedora Week of Diversity starts Sunday (CommBlog post coming)
17:34:37 <bcotton> anything else?
17:34:52 <riecatnor[m]> yep
17:34:54 <riecatnor[m]> one sec
17:35:19 <riecatnor[m]> #info Fedora Linux 35 Release Party is Nov 12th & 13th, registration now open
17:35:21 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-35-release-party/registration
17:35:27 <bcotton> ah yes!
17:35:31 <Eighth_Doctor> woot
17:35:38 <copperi[m]1> nice
17:35:53 <Eighth_Doctor> whoa, hopin got fancy
17:35:58 <riecatnor[m]> #info videos from Fedora Women's Day 2020 are up! (finally) and we will be promoting them during the Fedora Week of Diversity
17:36:02 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seFQRILobxM&list=PL0x39xti0_64NxdF68V6eZ1JWUQtHbR3E
17:36:17 <bt0> amazing!!!
17:36:22 <riecatnor[m]> hmmm thats not the right link
17:36:25 <riecatnor[m]> #undo
17:36:30 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0x39xti0_64NxdF68V6eZ1JWUQtHbR3E
17:36:35 <riecatnor[m]> there it is
17:36:44 <bt0> amazing!!! (with the correct link)
17:36:44 <riecatnor[m]> yea hopin did get fancy for the reg page :)
17:37:09 <riecatnor[m]> thanks to Onuralp Sezer for all of the video editing for FWD
17:37:12 <riecatnor[m]> !!
17:37:38 <riecatnor[m]> ok thats it for me.
17:38:04 <bcotton> thunderbirdtr++
17:38:04 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 9 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:38:16 <bcotton> anyone else have announcements?
17:38:20 <riecatnor[m]> thunderbirdtr++
17:38:35 <bt0> thunderbirdtr++
17:38:35 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 10 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:39:08 <Eighth_Doctor> thunderbirdtr++
17:39:48 <bcotton> #topic Open floor
17:39:56 <bcotton> wow, look at us with time left
17:40:28 <Eighth_Doctor> 🤯
17:40:32 <bcotton> anything else to discuss this time around?
17:41:04 <riecatnor[m]> hows the element stuff goin
17:41:16 <riecatnor[m]> are we all set up or is there more to do?
17:42:01 <riecatnor[m]> that might be a mattdm- question and he is not here, so I can find out later :)
17:43:15 <t0xic0der> There are a couple of updates from the mentored projects side but I suspect that is more of a mindshare discussion.
17:43:58 * bcotton knows nothing (or at least very little)
17:44:11 <mattdm> More to do. Hold on a sec...
17:44:51 <copperi[m]1> It is going forward ...
17:44:58 <bt0> :P
17:45:13 <mattdm> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/official-launch-checklist/33254/
17:45:45 <mattdm> #help I think the main thing here is really "write a bunch of docs"
17:46:59 <riecatnor[m]> Cool :)
17:48:22 <bcotton> okay, last call for open floor
17:49:49 <bcotton> alrighty, thanks everyone! see you around
17:49:52 <bcotton> #endmeeting