17:01:56 #startmeeting F35 Final Go/No-Go meeting 17:01:56 Meeting started Thu Oct 28 17:01:56 2021 UTC. 17:01:56 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:01:56 The chair is bcotton_. 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No remaining blocker bugs 17:06:12 #info 2. Release candidate compose is available 17:06:14 #info 3. Test matrices for Beta are fully completed 17:06:15 #undo 17:06:15 Removing item from minutes: INFO by bcotton_ at 17:06:14 : 3. Test matrices for Beta are fully completed 17:06:24 .hello adamwill 17:06:24 adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' 17:06:28 #info 3. Test matrices for Final are fully completed 17:06:43 #topic Current status - blockers 17:06:44 #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/35/final/buglist 17:06:56 Woo go/no-go! :) 17:07:00 #info 2 Proposed Blockers 17:07:02 #info 4 Accepted Blockers 17:07:03 #info 1 Accepted 0-day Blockers 17:07:13 so let's look at our proposed blockers first 17:07:24 #topic (2018271) fedora-release-identity-cloud says "Cloud Edition", Cloud has not been an edition for years 17:07:25 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2018271 17:07:27 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/575 17:07:28 #info Proposed Blocker, fedora-release, NEW 17:07:43 hot n' fresh! 17:07:43 Cloud Edition has not been formally dissolved 17:07:44 What did f34 say? 17:07:50 * SumantroMukherje is here 17:07:58 Conan Kudo: it has been formally de-editioned, though 17:08:03 no it hasn't 17:08:16 it's not listed as an edition at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Editions or https://getfedora.org/ 17:08:18 says who? where? 17:08:34 well, there's no record in the cloud wg/sig that indicated we shut it down 17:08:36 I move we wave this as being found too close to go/nogo 17:08:56 nirik: point of order: we can't waive it until it's an accepted blocker 17:09:27 Eighth_Doctor: shutting it down is not the same as making it not an Edition 17:09:30 yeah. i'd say this is clearly +1, but i'd also vote to waive 17:09:35 bcotton_: ahyeah 17:09:38 myself and DavidDuncan would both _strongly_ disagree with the idea that Cloud Edition isn't an edition 17:09:43 pwhalen: 34 wa almost certainly the same 17:09:47 Conan Kudo: it's not an idea. it's a fact. 17:09:52 prove it 17:09:59 i'll find the reference, but we very definitely made it not an edition. atomic replaced it. 17:10:26 if that's the case, we'll fix it for F36 17:10:38 because none of us want it to not be an edition 17:10:39 Conan Kudo: That's a Council-level decision 17:11:11 * coremodule is late, but here now! 17:11:26 .hello lruzicka 17:11:27 lruzicka2: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' 17:11:35 fine, we'll do whatever paperwork is required to fix it 17:11:50 but replacing Cloud with Atomic on the website is not the same as de-editioning it 17:11:56 https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-the-release-of-fedora-26-beta/ "Looking for Fedora Cloud Base? This is replaced by Atomic as a Fedora Edition for the container use case, but we still produce it for those of you who want to build up your own cloud-computing environment in a more traditional way — see Alternative Downloads below." 17:12:45 I guess I have to be +1 here because I don't see any indication that we're treating Cloud as an Edition, which makes it in violation of the criterion specified 17:13:31 the wording doesn't imply it's replaced entirely 17:13:42 I can confirm this. We just didn't do the technical stuff to actually make it not claim to be an edition, but the decision was officially made. 17:13:48 ugh 17:15:04 The wording does imply that in context, because the idea was that we had editions for three basic situations: developer-focused desktop, rhel-upstream-focused server, and experiemental cloudy-container thing. 17:15:05 The f26 announcement also says "the project delivers three editions, each one a free, Linux-based operating system tailored to meet specific use cases: Fedora 26 Atomic Host, Fedora 26 Server, and Fedora 26 Workstation. " 17:15:38 proposed #agreed 2018158 - AcceptedBlocker - Cloud is not currently an Edition, so it violates the "Release-blocking images that are not part of any edition must not identify themselves as being part of any edition" 17:15:45 ack 17:15:49 ack 17:15:49 grr 17:16:01 ack 17:16:03 ack 17:16:14 That doesn't mean we need to do it that way in the future as we work on our ... uh, "post-Fedora.next" plan (need better name); but that's the way it was. Conan Kudo let's take this to a different conversation? 17:16:39 and fwiw, even if soemthing is an Edition, I don't think it should say "Edition" in `/etc/os-release`, but that's a discussion for later 17:16:49 #agreed 2018158 - AcceptedBlocker - Cloud is not currently an Edition, so it violates the "Release-blocking images that are not part of any edition must not identify themselves as being part of any edition" 17:16:58 okay, let's move on to our other proposed blocker 17:17:10 #topic (2018158) disabling camera and microphone access doesn't disable either 17:17:11 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2018158 17:17:12 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/574 17:17:14 #info Proposed Blocker, gnome-control-center, NEW 17:17:15 #info Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-4) (-mattdm, -adamwill, -bcotton, -sgallagh) 17:17:25 -1 Final blocker 17:17:30 adamw made a compelling argument in the ticket that this is beyond what we'd call "basic" 17:17:43 that's been broken for a long time apparently 17:17:43 -1 Final blocker 17:17:47 yeah, i'm comfortable with -1 on the grounds it's not basic. 17:17:48 so -1 Blocker 17:18:03 it's basic functionality, IMO, but it's been broken for several releases 17:18:05 bcotton_: you have the wrong bug number in the Cloud edition #agreed (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2018271) 17:18:08 -1 FB 17:18:11 -1 Blocker 17:18:13 so clearly nobody cared enough to check it before now 17:18:37 mattdm: whoops. too many undo's now, i'll note it later 17:18:37 fortunately, it can be fixed in an update 17:19:24 -1 blocker 17:19:26 proposed #agreed 2018158 - RejectedBlocker - This behavior, while unfortunate, exceeds our definition of "basic functionality" 17:19:54 I already have an MR for it: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-release/pull-request/206 17:20:02 ack 17:20:08 ack 17:20:10 ack 17:20:10 ack 17:20:12 ack 17:20:16 Thanks StephenGallagher 17:20:30 ack 17:20:33 ack 17:20:47 #agreed 2018158 - RejectedBlocker - This behavior, while unfortunate, exceeds our definition of "basic functionality" 17:20:59 on to the accepted blockers! 17:21:10 #topic (2015972) systemd-vconsole-setup.service fails on an arabic system 17:21:11 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015972 17:21:13 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/561 17:21:14 #info Accepted Blocker, kbd, VERIFIED 17:21:17 ok 17:21:23 this is VERIFIED unless someone wants to claim that it isn't 17:21:54 hearing none 17:21:57 #topic (2016310) The KDE LiveCD 35 RC does not boot in basic graphics mode. 17:21:58 yeah, i was just waiting till after this meeting to do the stable push request. definitely fixed. 17:21:58 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016310 17:22:00 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/562 17:22:01 #info Accepted Blocker, LiveCD - KDE, VERIFIED 17:22:06 ditto 17:22:08 also fixed. 17:22:21 #topic (2016510) GNOME Software does not always show packages from third party repos if enabled via gnome-initial-setup 17:22:22 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016510 17:22:24 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/564 17:22:25 #info Accepted Blocker, PackageKit, ON_QA 17:23:10 fixed in the main. we found some corner cases where things can still get stuck, but everyone broadly agrees it's good enough to ship i believe 17:23:27 well we'll find out, won't we? :-) 17:23:28 yeah, I agree. 17:24:09 I agree too 17:24:10 let's look at the last couple of blockers and then make waive decisions 17:24:17 #topic (2016613) When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard layouts configured, hitting any modifier key with the second layout selected switches to the first layout 17:24:19 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016613 17:24:20 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/566 17:24:22 #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW 17:24:48 so, i'd suggest we waive this as it's behaved this way basically forever and there's no realistic way of fixing it for f35 17:24:51 I'm working on the wiki as we speak 17:24:59 I'm fine with waiving it 17:24:59 not easy to fix, I think waive +1 17:25:06 +1wave 17:25:09 should probably mark as CommonBug and tell people though 17:25:12 the reasonable way to fix it is to port anaconda to a keyboard layout library that works with wayland, but that's not something to do in the middle of final freeze 17:25:12 Waive +1 17:25:24 +1 waive 17:25:25 Anaconda may never get ported 17:25:26 yeah, someone throw a CommonBugs tag at it 17:25:31 +1 waive 17:25:33 +1 waive 17:25:40 after all, we've been Wayland native since F25 for Workstation and still nobody did it 17:25:42 Conan Kudo: it is already planned to happen hopefully for 36 17:25:45 #info Maintainers say this can't be fixed easily 17:25:49 * Eighth_Doctor snorts 17:26:02 we'll see how that goes 17:26:18 +1 waive 17:26:18 okay, and last-but-not-least, we have a 0-day blocker 17:26:20 #topic (2016253) wireplumber not enabled automatically 17:26:22 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016253 17:26:23 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/567 17:26:25 #info Accepted 0-day Blocker, wireplumber, MODIFIED 17:26:28 that should have landed already 17:26:38 * bcotton_ taps the "let's look at the last couple of blockers and then make waive decisions" sign :-) 17:26:38 I recall Adam got that spun into the latest RC 17:26:59 can, uh, someone define '0-day blocker' for me? 17:27:16 it means that it needs to land when we release the floodgates and allow GUI upgrades 17:27:16 bcotton_: we don't follow directions very well. ;) 17:27:22 i believe the definition is "we solemnly swear it will be fixed by 1400 UTC tuesday" 17:27:31 nirik: that's why they pay me the big bucks :-) 17:27:32 well, neal's fix for this is in rc2 and would be pushed stable, yes 17:27:33 mattdm: must be available as an update before release. 17:27:46 How do we control "must"? 17:27:50 but recent feedback on the bug suggests it may not actually be the problem we thought it was 17:27:54 mattdm: pinky swears. 17:28:03 works for me :) 17:28:19 is it looking like a no go for nov 2? 17:28:26 we should ask the DNF people about figuring out how to get fedora-release packages to be early in upgrade transactions 17:28:27 this whackamole sucks 17:28:28 ahmedalmeleh: no. 17:28:43 Conan Kudo: msuchy's feedback suggests the ordering might not be the issue 17:28:51 Thats good news 17:28:55 but we need to dig into that more 17:29:06 * Eighth_Doctor shrugs 17:29:16 I couldn't reproduce it myself, I went off of theory to try to make a fix 17:29:24 based on what others told me 17:29:35 still, even if the real case is "something wacky is happening on upgrade from long ago", that's still not release blocking as we specifically exclude those scenarios from the criteria as it's just too hard to guarantee 17:29:37 adamw: so how do we feel about this being "fixed enough"? because if we're not confident in it, my willingness to waive other bugs starts shrinking 17:30:18 bcotton_: fairly confident. we fixed the theoretical case that could violate the criteria. it's possible there's a different problem, but if so, it seems likely it's not criterion-breaking. 17:30:32 I agree 17:30:37 we should continue to investigate it and try to fix it, though. 17:30:59 fwiw, my systems are mostly aged with multiple upgrades and they were fine 17:30:59 (we'll need to install something old and upgrade it, which will be fun) 17:31:01 so... 17:31:08 #info RC2 (and the stable repo come release day) contains a fix for the case that could violate the criteria. There may be a different problem, but it's unlikely to violate the release criteria 17:31:08 it's tricky and hard to repro 17:31:20 mine is too, but i upgraded early in cycle when we knew it was broken, so i fixed it up manually 17:31:22 so that's not useful 17:31:58 adamw, same with my machines. Now, I totally do not have an idea what apps I should install before upgrading to break ti 17:32:15 #topic Blocker waiver decision 17:32:31 #info 2 accepted blockers remain unfixed 17:32:40 #info (2018271) fedora-release-identity-cloud says "Cloud Edition", Cloud has not been an edition for years 17:32:50 #info (2016613) When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard layouts configured, hitting any modifier key with the second layout selected switches to the first layout 17:33:10 ⛵️ 17:33:19 i was seeing a lot of folks in favor of waiving both of these. does anyone want to make a case for NOT waiving them? 17:33:32 i'm okay with waiving both 17:33:32 🌊em 17:33:32 SHIP IT! 17:33:34 🚢 17:33:36 +1 wave 17:33:38 Sting: "Love is the seventh waive" 17:33:51 👋 17:33:52 "cloud edition" on the basis that it was discovered very late (i.e. half an hour ago) and isn't super serious, nobody is gonna die, it's a branding issue 17:33:54 🚢 17:33:57 🚣‍♀️ 17:34:11 proposed #agreed BZ 2018271 and 2016613 are waived under the "late blocker" and "difficult to fix" exceptions, respectively 17:34:13 🚣‍♀️ 17:34:14 "could edition" could be fixed with an update any time 17:34:16 keyboard layout on the basis it's a pre-existing issue and not realistically fixable within the constraints of the schedule 17:34:19 ack 17:34:28 ack 17:34:30 🌊 them and then ⛵️ it! 17:34:31 Ack 17:34:33 ack 17:34:35 lruzicka2: That's not *strictly* true, for weird reasons. 17:34:53 lruzicka2: yeah, of course if some cloud provider uses the stable release images and doesn't pick up updated ones it'd still be there when you boot one of their instances, i guess. 17:34:55 Though you probably wouldn' 17:35:02 t actually see the remaining instances 17:35:18 ack 17:35:23 we already want to get updated cloud instances out to include the aarch64 hang bug fix, i think, so this is two reasons to do it 17:35:24 ack 17:35:27 Also we need to advertise any such change in advance, because people might be scripting off of the pretty name even though they shouldn't be. 17:35:30 adamw, StephenGallagher: ok, I see 17:35:33 Wiki editions I done 17:35:44 I was thinking of the fact that GRUB would display it in the kernels that were installed prior to the fix. 17:35:51 But 🤷 17:36:03 #agreed BZ 2018271 and 2016613 are waived under the "late blocker" and "difficult to fix" exceptions, respectively 17:36:14 #info All accepted blockers are fixed or waived 17:36:26 #topic Current status - test matrices 17:36:27 ahmedalmeleh: thanks a lot! i'll tweak the links and stuff in a bit 17:36:27 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_35_Test_Results 17:37:18 Stephen Gallagher: well, if we send out updated base images they won't have that, right? 17:37:19 Correct 17:37:19 test coverage is excellent (I think we might actually be at 100%) 17:37:24 I think the coreos, sb, IoT don't have wiki pages yet 17:37:25 * bcotton_ faints 17:37:35 all failures are accounted for 17:37:40 so there's nothing to worry about 17:37:49 only a few transfers from previous composes, all safe (areas that weren't touched) 17:37:59 Can you say that into the mic again, adamw? 17:37:59 what about sas drives or fakeraid? :) 17:38:08 .hello2 17:38:09 frantisekz: frantisekz 'František Zatloukal' 17:38:09 frantisekz, too late 17:38:11 Stephen Gallagher: no 17:38:12 nirik: yes! 17:38:18 we don't need to make sgallagh do a "quick" AD test? 17:38:31 we already know AD doesn't work, right? :P 17:38:32 nirik: read it and weep: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_35_RC_1.2_Installation#Storage_devices 17:38:33 bcotton_: In fact, I did that just prior to the meeting 17:38:54 #info Test coverage complete, with only a few transfers from previous composes 17:39:01 * nirik cries in joy 17:39:08 lnie++ for weird storage device testing 17:39:10 adamw: Karma for lnie changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:39:23 Being serious for once in my life: great work, QA team. I don't remember having full coverage in....a while 17:39:27 lnie++ 17:39:27 bcotton_: Karma for lnie changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:39:38 lnie++ 17:39:40 any questions on the test coverage? 17:39:42 bcotton_: it's amazing what happens when the RC is built more than five hours before the meeting, huh :P 17:39:43 Yay all! 17:39:46 may have delayed a bit, but it's solid! 17:39:49 lnie++ 17:39:59 inie++ 17:40:07 big thanks to SIG/WG folks who contributed testing, especially sgallagh, pwhalen and the cloud folks 17:40:18 sgallagh++ 17:40:18 mattdm: Karma for sgallagh changed to 7 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:40:19 IoT is also done - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora-IoT_35_RC_20211021.0_Summary 17:40:23 pwhalen++ 17:40:23 mattdm: Karma for pwhalen changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:40:27 StephenGallagher++ 17:40:34 pwhalen++ 17:40:35 pwhalen++ 17:40:38 sgallagh++ 17:40:43 pwhalen++ 17:40:43 coremodule: Karma for pwhalen changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:40:47 i actually kinda wish we could do an RC3 to sneak three FE fixes in, but oh well 17:40:48 pwhalen++ 17:40:49 pwhalen++ 17:40:49 bt0: Karma for pwhalen changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:40:50 cloud_folks++ 17:40:50 Big thanks to Dusty and team for getting FCOS tested a part of test week!! 17:41:00 dustymabe++ 17:41:02 sgallagh++ 17:41:02 coremodule: Karma for sgallagh changed to 8 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:41:04 kudos to all 17:41:05 sgallagh++ 17:41:05 bt0: Karma for sgallagh changed to 9 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:41:08 adamw++ pwhalen++ 17:41:08 mboddu: Karma for adamwill changed to 6 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:41:11 mboddu: Karma for pwhalen changed to 5 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:41:14 sgallagh++ 17:41:16 sgallagh++ 17:41:17 mboddu: Karma for sgallagh changed to 10 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:41:20 adamw++ 17:41:20 bt0: Karma for adamwill changed to 7 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:41:26 okay great let's take a look at our RC 17:41:33 #topic Current status - RC 17:41:33 adamw++ 17:41:37 kparal++ 17:41:38 #info RC2 is the current RC 17:41:42 Ok 17:42:04 kparal++ frantisekz++ lnie++ sumantrom++ 17:42:05 mboddu: Karma for kparal changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:42:08 mboddu: Karma for frantisekz changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:42:11 mboddu: Karma for lnie changed to 5 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:42:14 mboddu: Karma for sumantrom changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:42:24 mboddu, nirik how does RC2 look? any missing artifacts? 17:42:34 sumantrom++ 17:42:34 bt0: Karma for sumantrom changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:42:35 Nope 17:42:36 nope. it had everything. 17:42:50 \o/ 17:42:54 bcotton_: All of the images were composed 17:43:05 is this also a record? :) 17:43:08 #info RC2 contains all expected artifacts 17:43:11 might well be. 17:43:14 mattdm: no, we've done this a few times recently 17:43:20 mattdm: Nope, we had a couple before 17:43:24 on final releases? 17:43:36 nirik: Yup, I remember 33 having all the images 17:43:40 👍️ 17:43:47 we're getting good at this! 17:43:49 for f36, should i put an early early release milestone so that we can do this again, but on time? :-) 17:44:07 bcotton_, sure ... let's do it 17:44:16 okay, well i guess it's time for the fateful moment.... 17:44:23 Ben Cotton (he/him/his) sure! 17:44:31 #topic Go/No-Go decision 17:44:33 I will poll each team. Please reply “go” or “no-go” 17:44:40 FESCo? 17:44:44 Go 17:44:45 go! 17:44:53 Go! 17:45:00 #info FESCo is GO 17:45:04 Releng? 17:45:06 Good good 17:45:08 Oh, now I can vote for FESCo and RelEng :D 17:45:09 Go 17:45:12 #info RelEng is GO 17:45:18 QA? 17:45:19 Go! 17:45:26 Go!!! 17:45:28 #info QA is GO 17:45:30 Go! 17:45:31 🛳️ 17:45:33 I'm in QA 17:45:36 #agreed Fedora Linux 35 Final is GO 17:45:37 #info Fedora Linux 35 Final will release on target date #2 (2021-11-02) 17:45:43 #action bcotton to announce decision 17:45:49 YES 17:45:50 #topic Open floor 17:45:52 Anything else we need to discuss before closing? 17:45:56 You all are AWESOME 17:45:58 Best result 17:46:09 Discuss awesomeness of everyone. 17:46:13 Helloween Release :D 17:46:18 mattdm: cool 17:46:21 yay!! :D 17:46:22 lruzicka2: Lol 17:46:22 nickname it 17:46:23 everything is awesome 17:46:32 * eddiejennings cheers. 17:46:36 .fire nirik for getting that song in my head 17:46:36 adamw fires nirik for getting that song in my head 17:46:37 (except my typing, lego) 17:46:45 * Leo[m]1234 cheers 17:47:06 Awesome job everyone! 17:47:06 * nirik goes to feed cats before the next meeting. 17:47:13 thanks everyone! 17:47:21 great job 17:47:30 see you 17:47:36 Kudos to all jubilant 17:47:42 \o/ 17:47:42 Thanks adamw 17:47:44 Thanks everyone!! 17:47:46 We did beat a record though, first not on time release under bcotton_ :P 17:48:00 ouch 17:48:11 * mboddu hides from bcotton_ 17:48:16 that hurt :) 17:48:19 We have carefully-crafted excuses in the release annoucnement ready to go 17:48:20 i already got my promotion. no takebacks 17:48:33