20:00:30 <tdawson> #startmeeting EPEL (2021-08-25)
20:00:30 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 25 20:00:30 2021 UTC.
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20:00:30 <tdawson> #meetingname epel
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20:00:30 <tdawson> #chair nirik tdawson bstinson pgreco carlwgeorge michel dcavalca
20:00:30 <tdawson> #topic aloha
20:00:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: bstinson carlwgeorge dcavalca michel nirik pgreco tdawson
20:00:38 <pgreco> hello!
20:00:53 <tdawson> Hi pgreco
20:00:58 <dcavalca> .hi
20:01:00 <zodbot> dcavalca: dcavalca 'Davide Cavalca' <dcavalca@fb.com>
20:01:18 <tdawson> Hi dcavalca
20:01:23 <carlwgeorge> .hi
20:01:24 <zodbot> carlwgeorge: carlwgeorge 'Carl George' <carl@redhat.com>
20:01:40 <tdawson> Hi carlwgeorge
20:01:45 <nirik> morning
20:02:09 <tdawson> Hi nirik
20:03:23 <nirik> how's things?
20:04:03 <tdawson> Fairly good, though busy, doing three things at once right now ... but in two minutes ... ya'll have my undivided attention
20:04:21 <pgreco> so all within normal parameters
20:04:29 <tdawson> :)
20:04:39 <pgreco> anything below 3 counts as quiet I guess
20:05:26 <rsc> .hi robert
20:05:27 <tdawson> OK, everything has now completely failed, thus nothing for me to do. :)
20:05:27 <zodbot> rsc: Sorry, but user 'rsc' does not exist
20:05:32 <rsc> .hello robert
20:05:33 <tdawson> Hi rsc
20:05:35 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
20:05:42 <tdawson> #topic Old Business
20:05:59 <tdawson> carlwgeorge and nirik  How is epel9-next doing ?
20:06:12 <carlwgeorge> plotting out our tag setup at the moment
20:06:27 <nirik> made a tiny bit of progress, or at least talked about it.
20:06:30 <carlwgeorge> yeah
20:06:40 <carlwgeorge> we talked about how we should make progress on it :P
20:06:50 <tdawson> Well, tag setup is better than nothing.
20:07:22 <tdawson> Are targets on the schedule?
20:07:40 <carlwgeorge> the build target needs the tags
20:08:43 <tdawson> Yep ...  one step closer to targets. :)
20:09:43 <tdawson> Anything ya'll need help with?  Other than a magic wand that gets all your other stuff done?
20:10:06 <carlwgeorge> more like a magic wand to make other work go away so i can focus on this :D
20:10:23 <tdawson> I'll see what I can find in my closet.
20:11:11 <carlwgeorge> signed packages for c9s are very close, and mirror setup is close, so once those happen i think we'll start getting a lot more pressure for epel9-next
20:11:44 * dcavalca is prepping things on our end to start consuming c9s, so we'll need epel9 soon as well :)
20:14:04 <tdawson> Anything else for epel-next before we move on?
20:15:00 <tdawson> OK, moving on to documentation
20:15:23 <tdawson> Good progress there
20:15:43 <tdawson> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/
20:16:18 <tdawson> I'm still cleaning up links
20:16:43 <nirik> very nice
20:17:04 <dcavalca> yeah this is great
20:17:05 <tdawson> The wiki link locations, and the ascidoc link locations are totally different, so even though it converted the links over, they are wrong.
20:17:41 <nirik> 🙁
20:18:06 <tdawson> It's currently not linked anywhere.  Meaning from the Fedora documents site.  I was waiting until I at least got the links all cleaned up before talking to Matt M. about where he thinks it should go.
20:19:03 <tdawson> I don't know if the EPEL pages belong on the top level of documentation or not - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/docs/
20:19:36 <tdawson> Or if it goes in the "catch all" page under engineering - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/engineering/
20:19:41 <nirik> probibly under engineering teams?
20:20:05 <tdawson> I'm ok with either, or neither.
20:20:33 <tdawson> It's currently not linked from anywhere, so ... whatever people think is best is ok with me.
20:20:54 <carlwgeorge> i'd prefer it top level, easier to find
20:20:55 <nirik> yeah, I think under engineering teams but I won't argue much
20:21:41 <tdawson> I think at the very least it's going to go under engineering teams, but I wanted to talk to Matt and/or Fedora documentation team, see what they think.
20:21:54 <nirik> sure
20:22:40 <tdawson> Anyway, a couple more days of link cleanup, and then I'll get serious about asking where to put it.
20:23:45 <tdawson> Moving to badges, logos, and mascots ... I didn't see any movement on any of those.  Did anyone else?
20:24:41 <carlwgeorge> nope
20:24:49 <tdawson> #topic EPEL-7
20:25:05 <tdawson> Anything for EPEL7 this week?
20:25:56 <tdawson> I didn't see anything ...
20:26:18 <tdawson> #topic EPEL-8
20:27:07 <tdawson> #topic EPEL-Packaging-SIG
20:27:47 <tdawson> I have the Packaging-SIG on my list of documentation to clean up.
20:28:32 <dcavalca> just saw three more packages I was following got added to epel8, so yay
20:28:38 <dcavalca> no major updates from my end otherwise
20:28:53 <tdawson> Technically EPEL itself is a SIG, and is referenced several times in the documentation as the SIG.  And the EPEL-Packaging-SIG also references itself as just "the SIG", so I need to clean those up so that each reference is specific.
20:28:54 <pgreco> I  have a few that I'm preparing to add, if work permits
20:29:07 <rsc> Adding packages to EPEL got IMHO harder with dist-git ;-(
20:29:08 <tdawson> Ya!! for packages being added.
20:29:18 <dcavalca> oh probably worth it to bubble up https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1995353 here
20:30:18 <tdawson> dcavalca: Are you, or the group, prepared to do that?
20:30:54 <dcavalca> tdawson: not me, personally, but I know both bkircher and Eighth_Doctor were interested
20:31:12 <tdawson> As I've said, I've built it for myself.  I'm keeping my fingers away from it cuz I'm not confident that I'd be able to maintainer it properly.
20:31:34 <dcavalca> yeah, I'm happy to help out but I don't want to own this myself, I already have way too much crap
20:32:37 <tdawson> I think it would be great if they get it in properly.  So many times I've grumbled about not being able to do things on my RHEL machines and move it all over to my Fedora ones.
20:32:38 * nirik doesn't have any need for it. :)
20:32:53 <tdawson> :)
20:33:15 <tdawson> Anything else SIG related?
20:33:49 <rsc> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1990157 didn't progress, too. Just to bubble it up as well.
20:34:34 <tdawson> Thanks for the bubbles.
20:34:40 <dcavalca> rsc: I've added that one to the tracking bug
20:35:30 <tdawson> #topic General Issues / Open Floor
20:35:47 <tdawson> I do have one thing, although it's actually Old Business
20:36:25 <tdawson> The work is now progressing on RHEL's workflow, to create bugzilla's whenever they add an EPEL package.
20:36:48 <nirik> cool.
20:36:51 <tdawson> They're currently testing their scripts on staging bugzilla.
20:37:31 <pgreco> that's really good
20:37:44 <nirik> can we also get them to block a tracking bug? then we could see all of them that don't get acked...
20:38:07 <tdawson> Yep, I'm excited.  And I'm glad they are asking my opinion on the wording and such.
20:38:23 <pgreco> that doesn't mean anything wrt shipping a "trimmed down" version, right?
20:38:30 <tdawson> nirik, oh, that's a very good idea.  I'll ask them about that.
20:39:13 <tdawson> pgreco: This is just advanced notification that the packages are being added.  As for trimming things down ... I guess you could always comment in the bug.
20:39:33 <pgreco> yeah, at least we could know early
20:39:53 <pgreco> getting some people for the group added automatically to the bugzilla would be nice
20:40:26 <tdawson> Yep.  I think adding it to a tracking bug would be the easiest way to do that.  Cuz then people could add, or remove themselves.
20:40:34 * nirik nods
20:41:41 <tdawson> Anyway, I don't totally know when it will be completely implemented, but they are working on it.
20:41:53 <tdawson> That's all I have ... does anyone else have anything for open floor?
20:44:02 <tdawson> Well, if there isn't anything else, let's close 15 minutes early.
20:44:24 <tdawson> Thank you all for coming.  Thank you for all the work ya'll do.
20:44:34 <tdawson> We'll talk next week, if not sooner.
20:44:39 <dcavalca> thanks tdawson
20:44:41 <nirik> thanks tdawson
20:44:49 <tdawson> #endmeeting