18:00:04 <bcotton> #startmeeting Council (2022-01-20)
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18:00:04 <bcotton> #chair bookwar dcantrell siddharthvipul1 riecatnor spot mattdm bcotton sumantrom marianab bt0 t0xic0der
18:00:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton bookwar dcantrell siddharthvipul1 riecatnor spot mattdm bcotton sumantrom bt0 marianab t0xic0der
18:00:15 <bcotton> ah, 4 second delay!
18:00:30 <riecatnor[m]> .hello riecatnor
18:00:30 <bcotton> #topic Introductions, Welcomes
18:00:31 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
18:00:34 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> .hello t0xic0der
18:00:35 <zodbot> AkashdeepDhar[m]: t0xic0der 'Akashdeep Dhar' <akashdeep.dhar@gmail.com>
18:00:55 <spot> .hello spot
18:00:56 <zodbot> spot: spot 'Tom Callaway' <spotrh@gmail.com>
18:01:13 <bcotton> welcome everyone!
18:01:16 <mattdm> hello!
18:01:32 * AkashdeepDhar[m] waves
18:02:38 <bcotton> #topic Today's agenda
18:02:39 <bcotton> #info Planning to plan for an updated strategic plan
18:02:39 <bcotton> #info Your topics here!
18:02:45 <bcotton> short agenda today
18:02:50 <mattdm> Yeah that :)
18:02:50 <bcotton> so let's dig in
18:02:58 <bcotton> #topic Planning to plan for an updated strategic plan
18:02:58 <bcotton> #info mattdm started a Discussion thread
18:02:58 <bcotton> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-in-2025-what-do-we-want-and-how-will-we-get-there/35258
18:02:58 <bcotton> #info The plan is "interested parties will form a doc and presentation in late February to present at Flock/Nest 2022"
18:03:15 <mattdm> That was a pretty good start.
18:04:27 <mattdm> If I remember the previous state of the plan-to-plan, the idea was for me to start several such threads in December and early January
18:04:36 <mattdm> Soooo, mixed score on that front :)
18:05:05 <mattdm> But I do have two more topics queued up to write about.
18:05:05 <bcotton> One out of three ain't bad!
18:05:18 <mattdm> It's a passing grade, on the curve :)
18:06:43 <bcotton> on the first thread, it's been 22 days since the last post. is there more you want out of that discussion, or do you feel like it's run its course well
18:06:54 <mattdm> But seriously: the next two topics are on increasing Fedora mindshare in the Linux ecosystem overall; and on making Fedora — both Fedora Linux and Fedora Project — more accessible for people with disabilities and other groups we could be serving better, in line with the vision statement.
18:07:33 <mattdm> bcotton: I feel like that thread did kind of naturally run its course, but there's probably some more followup along the general topic of "what do we want"...
18:07:38 <mattdm> ... let alone "how will we get there.
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18:08:01 <bcotton> zodbot doesn't like replies?
18:08:08 <mattdm> I think it didn't like ...
18:08:21 <mattdm> Next time I will use "…"
18:08:23 <mattdm> … like this
18:08:30 <mattdm> haha! unicode ftw.
18:08:32 <mattdm> anyway.
18:09:53 <mattdm> I guess I would like to see more input from more council members.
18:10:20 <mattdm> I appreciated Ben, David, and Marie's responses... I'd really like to hear from the rest of you.
18:10:31 <mattdm> (And I think I didn't miss any?)
18:10:36 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> We can keep the thread open for some more time (~2 weeks) for more responses
18:10:43 <mattdm> Of course I also very  much appreciate the larger community input.
18:10:43 <bcotton> I counted the same people :-)
18:10:53 <mattdm> Yeeah, I guess this is my thought:
18:11:13 <mattdm> 1. I will start those other two threads. Maybe _one_ before DevConf.cz and the other after.
18:11:15 <bt0> one week looks fine for me
18:11:30 <mattdm> 2. I'd _really_ like the other council folks to add their thoughts.
18:11:54 <mattdm> 3. Then, I'll start a followup to that thread.
18:12:24 <mattdm> 4. And I think we should focus a council meeting — video, with as much attendance as we can get — on that followup
18:12:41 <mattdm> for #4, I'm thinking a two-hour block (with a structured agenda).
18:13:04 <bcotton> #action mattdm to start two additional threads on strategic plan directions
18:13:15 <bcotton> #action council to add their thoughts to existing and future threads
18:13:43 <bcotton> #info We'll do a Council meeting on video to follow up on those threads (details TBD)
18:14:19 <bcotton> i think this approach sounds good
18:14:49 <bt0> +1
18:15:34 <mattdm> So, um, I move that we end this meeting early and council members can use their time on #1?
18:15:39 <mattdm> #2 I mean.
18:15:42 <mattdm> Me on #1. :)
18:15:54 <bcotton> anyone else have anything on this topic?
18:16:17 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> Ben Cotton (he/him/his): Nothing from my end
18:16:33 <bcotton> #topic Next meeting
18:16:33 <bcotton> #info The next regular business meeting is Thursday 3 February
18:16:33 <bcotton> #info The next Video Meeting is 10 February. The guests will be Carl George and Troy Dawson talking about EPEL
18:16:33 <bcotton> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council/Video_Meetings
18:16:42 <bcotton> #topic Do we have anything to announce?
18:16:42 <bcotton> #info This is a regular check to make sure we're communicating to the contributor (via CommBlog) and user (via Magazine) communities
18:16:49 <bcotton> #info Previously announced
18:16:49 <bcotton> #info The Mindshare Committee published it's first quarterly report
18:16:49 <bcotton> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/mindshare-committee-quarterly-report-q4-2021/
18:17:00 <bcotton> anything new?
18:17:00 <riecatnor[m]> yay Mindshare!
18:17:06 * bcotton has something. will wait for others
18:17:17 <mattdm> DevConf.cz coming up. There are Fedora talks.
18:17:18 <bt0> nothing here
18:17:24 <mattdm> We should maybe have a commblog post on them?
18:17:42 <bcotton> yes, someone should do that :-)
18:18:09 <mattdm> anyone NOT BEN want to volunteer for that?
18:18:20 <mattdm> also NOT MARIE :)
18:18:48 <bcotton> the difficulty is that there's no fedora track this year, so you have to sort of figure out what's a fedora talk and what isn't
18:18:52 <AkashdeepDhar[m]> Wish I was not occupied with the mentorship to be able to assist with this :/
18:19:16 * spot is up to his eyebrows in work right now...
18:19:20 <riecatnor[m]> we could do a discussion thread for peeps to jump on with their talks?
18:19:26 <bcotton> +1
18:20:07 <mattdm> +1 okay let's do that. more distributed work.
18:20:35 <bcotton> so my thing probably doesn't warrant a post, but just so that's in on the record somewhere
18:20:54 <bcotton> #info bcotton is stepping down from the role of Fedora Legal Liaison
18:21:12 <bcotton> such that the role exists in any documented way :-)
18:21:53 <bcotton> do we have anything else to announce?
18:22:16 <riecatnor[m]> nothing from me
18:23:06 <bcotton> #topic Open floor
18:23:24 <bcotton> anything for open floor or is everyone just super excited to go make their thoughts known on the Discussion thread?
18:23:47 <mattdm> Thanks Ben for trying the Legal thing. :)
18:23:53 <riecatnor[m]> bcotton++
18:23:58 <mattdm> +1 super excited, right?
18:25:02 <bcotton> play. o
18:25:06 <bcotton> AH
18:25:12 <mattdm> thanks ben!
18:25:14 <bcotton> off-by-one error on the keyboard
18:25:15 <mattdm> and everyone!
18:25:24 <bcotton> okay, i don't see anyone else bringing up topics. let's call it a day!
18:25:27 <bcotton> #endmeeting