16:00:41 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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16:00:47 <adamw> #meetingname fedora-qa
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16:00:53 <adamw> #topic Roll Call
16:01:01 <adamw> good morning folks, who's around for qa meeting fun? ;)
16:01:02 <bittin> .hello2 bittin
16:01:04 <zodbot> bittin: bittin 'Luna Jernberg' <droidbittin@gmail.com>
16:01:31 <lruzicka> .hello2
16:01:32 <zodbot> lruzicka: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' <lruzicka@redhat.com>
16:01:34 <coremodule> .hello2
16:01:35 <zodbot> coremodule: coremodule 'Geoffrey Marr' <gmarr@redhat.com>
16:01:50 <tflink> .hello2
16:01:51 <zodbot> tflink: tflink 'Tim Flink' <tflink@redhat.com>
16:04:25 <adamw> everyone doing okay?
16:06:22 <lruzicka> yes, sort of
16:06:41 <bittin> apart from migrane, that does not want to gave away i survive
16:06:48 <bittin> *go
16:06:56 <adamw> yeah :/
16:07:12 <coremodule> how are you adamw?
16:07:30 <adamw> same as everyone, i expect
16:07:44 <adamw> things i was not expecting to google in 2022: british columbia fallout shelters
16:07:58 <adamw> sadly there aren't any, so, y'know
16:08:27 <lruzicka> adamw, we still have something but I doubt all of us fit in
16:09:23 <adamw> anyhoo, we still have a software project to make apparently, so!
16:09:29 <adamw> #topic Previous meeting follow-up
16:09:52 <lruzicka> adamw, The Czech Office for Nuclear Safety published 8 steps to do after ... and now the list fo shelters is offline anyway
16:09:55 <adamw> lruzicka: plus, you have to fit the beer barrels in somehow...
16:10:14 <bittin> adamw, was you suppose to write something?
16:10:28 <geraldosimiao> .hello geraldosimiao
16:10:29 <zodbot> geraldosimiao: geraldosimiao 'Geraldo S. Simião Kutz' <geraldo.simiao.kutz@gmail.com>
16:13:20 <adamw> #info "adamw to send updated draft of default application criterion revision proposal" - I did that, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/IXTHKW3EFII5E542727JFJPBLFZZDBAJ/
16:13:42 <adamw> only kparal replied so far
16:13:44 <adamw> if no-one yells soon i guess I'll push it out
16:14:47 <bittin> LGTM
16:15:38 <adamw> any other follow-up?
16:15:39 <adamw> thanks bittin
16:16:21 <lruzicka> adamw, I think it's ok.
16:16:34 <geraldosimiao> +1 here
16:16:38 <geraldosimiao> Looks good
16:17:11 <Southern_Gentlem> +1
16:19:23 <adamw> #topic Fedora 36 status
16:19:58 <bittin> slipped a week from 19th April to 26th April, Composes is coming out and works :)
16:19:58 <adamw> so, broadly speaking: much better than last week
16:20:11 <adamw> composes are running! they're mostly working!
16:20:28 <adamw> eh? who slipped what?
16:20:37 <adamw> it's february, nobody's slipping anything yet unless i missed a memo
16:21:21 <adamw> #info composes are running and mostly working, there are several known blockers but nothing show-stopping (except initial-setup not running on ARM disk images). Blocker review meeting at the top of the hour
16:21:26 <bittin> https://news.itsfoss.com/fedora-36-release-date-features/ says its no longer the early targets here: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-key-tasks.html
16:21:47 <bcotton> well that's news to me
16:21:51 <bittin> (but a week here or there)
16:22:27 <bittin> ah they edited the article since i looked at it earlier today now
16:22:31 <adamw> bittin: that doesn't say it's delayed, it's just giving both alternative dates from our schedule
16:22:38 <adamw> ah :)
16:22:53 <adamw> i guess they were confused about the way we do the schedule.
16:23:19 <bittin> maybe
16:23:41 <bcotton> eh, reading the link, what they say lines up with what we say, although not in the wording I'd like
16:24:17 <bittin> it was edited since i read it 7-8 hours ago when it was first posted
16:24:50 <geraldosimiao> Last night I tested system upgrade from f35 kde and it was fine, just need to use --allowerasing for mlocate and plocate change to work
16:25:06 <bittin> anyhow
16:25:11 <geraldosimiao> But overall, it's working
16:25:21 <lruzicka> geraldosimiao, that is being solved
16:25:54 <adamw> yeah, we're working on the locate thing
16:26:01 <geraldosimiao> But with allowerasing it worked fine, and now f36 kde is doing fine
16:26:21 <bittin> installed Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-36-20220227.n.0.iso in a VM Today and updated to join the GNOME 42 Test days this week, so working for me in Virtualbox as it should
16:26:57 <geraldosimiao> authselect is working fine too, as expected
16:26:59 <Southern_Gentlem> bittin, how about in libvirt
16:27:16 <bittin> Southern_Gentlem, no clue, have not gotten into that, still uses Virtualbox out of habbit
16:27:44 <lruzicka> Southern_Gentlem, no issues in libvirt, tested today :D
16:28:04 <lruzicka> Southern_Gentlem, afaik
16:28:17 <Southern_Gentlem> lruzicka, great to me libvirt is the higher degree test
16:28:49 <lruzicka> Southern_Gentlem, sure, libvirt -> a Fedora to run Fedora :D
16:29:07 <Southern_Gentlem> in fedora vs third party app
16:30:49 <geraldosimiao> Libvirt is doing great
16:30:56 <adamw> ok, so, sounds like we can move on
16:31:32 <adamw> #topic Current criteria / test case proposals
16:31:52 <adamw> #action adamw to put the revised default application criterion into production
16:31:57 <adamw> so i'll do that and we can close that one out
16:32:14 <geraldosimiao> Ack
16:32:16 <adamw> #info the package management criteria proposal was accepted and pushed out, next step is to write test cases for it
16:32:46 <adamw> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/688 is the ticket for writing test cases for the package management criteria
16:33:13 <adamw> so sumantro has volunteered for this, i think lruzicka was also interested as he plans to write the openqa tests too
16:33:35 <adamw> (these days it can be kinda efficient to write the manual and automated test cases together)
16:33:55 <lruzicka> adamw, I will get into touch with sumantro and we'll sort this out somehow :D
16:34:08 <adamw> sounds gdoo!
16:34:09 <adamw> also good
16:35:34 <adamw> i think that's all the outstanding proposals?
16:38:38 <adamw> #topic Test Day / community event status
16:38:55 <bittin> GNOME 42 test day is going on this week and i18n/localization Test week next week
16:39:00 <bittin> and a nag
16:39:19 <bittin> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-02-28_Fedora_36_GNOME_42 says RC, even if the RC is released 5th March, when the test week is done, so we are testing Final Beta
16:39:22 <adamw> nag us!
16:40:11 <adamw> i think that was a placeholder with the intention that there'd be an image built with rc packages
16:40:25 <adamw> since today is the day, i guess we should just replace it with links to the latest nightly or so
16:40:36 <bittin> adamw, https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/692#comment-783425
16:40:55 <geraldosimiao> Yes
16:40:55 <geraldosimiao> +1 to this
16:40:57 <adamw> oh, wait, the 42~beta update is still in testing
16:41:01 <adamw> okay, i will do stuff about this!
16:41:28 <bittin> yeah its beta this whole week and RC next week (sometime)
16:41:29 <bittin> :p
16:41:46 <bittin> right should be right
16:41:59 <geraldosimiao> Because 20220227 is still with gnome-shell-42~alpha-3.fc36.x86_64
16:42:08 <adamw> i can grab an iso with the 42~beta update in it from openqa and link it from the test day page
16:42:26 <adamw> #action adamw to update GNOME test day wiki page with links to an ISO with GNOME 42~beta in it
16:42:39 <geraldosimiao> Ack
16:42:54 <bittin> yeah test days ends 4th March and GNOME spins up RC 5th March
16:42:57 <bittin> so its gonna be Beta
16:42:58 <bittin> :p
16:45:29 <adamw> alrighty, thanks for pointing that out
16:45:39 <adamw> i'll have to poke sumantro again about making sure things are ready ahead of test days...
16:46:07 <bittin> well not the worst, but right should be right
16:46:47 <adamw> #info GNOME 42 Test Week starts today: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-02-28_Fedora_36_GNOME_42 , i18n/l10n test week is next week: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-03-08_I18N_Test_Day
16:49:33 <adamw> #topic Open floor
16:49:36 <adamw> any other business, folks?
16:49:44 <bittin> not from me
16:50:17 <geraldosimiao> Have you seem this?
16:50:31 <geraldosimiao> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2054953
16:50:38 <geraldosimiao> The Firefox bookmarks issue
16:50:50 <geraldosimiao> It's a bug or a feature?
16:52:30 <geraldosimiao> It was some conscientious decision or something else?
16:55:35 <adamw> don't know, off the top of my head
16:55:58 <adamw> it should be possible to tell from the package history, though
16:56:06 <adamw> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/firefox
16:56:36 <geraldosimiao> It isn't really a big issue, but that bookmarks are really good stuff.
16:59:26 <bittin> thanks for today, not joining the blocker meeting today
16:59:39 <adamw> thanks for coming!
16:59:40 <bittin> <adamw> blocker review meeting starting soon over in #fedora-blocker-review
16:59:47 <adamw> alright, let's head over to #fedora-blocker-review everyone
16:59:51 <adamw> #endmeeting