17:00:22 #startmeeting F37 Beta Go/No-Go meeting 17:00:22 Meeting started Thu Sep 8 17:00:22 2022 UTC. 17:00:22 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:00:22 The chair is bcotton. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 17:00:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:22 The meeting name has been set to 'f37_beta_go/no-go_meeting' 17:00:23 #meetingname F37-Beta-Go_No_Go-meeting 17:00:23 The meeting name has been set to 'f37-beta-go_no_go-meeting' 17:00:35 c'mon, bridge 17:00:55 #topic Roll Call 17:00:57 ahoyhoy 17:01:00 alright, folks, who is here 17:01:01 .hello adamwill 17:01:01 adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' 17:01:19 .hello jbwillia 17:01:20 Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' 17:01:22 .hello geraldosimiao 17:01:23 geraldosimiao: geraldosimiao 'Geraldo S. Simião Kutz' 17:01:28 .hello humaton 17:01:30 jednorozec: humaton 'Tomáš Hrčka' 17:02:50 morning 17:03:40 welcome, one and all 17:03:49 #topic Purpose of this meeting 17:03:49 #info Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F37 Beta is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. 17:03:49 #info This is determined in a few ways: 17:03:58 #info 1. No remaining blocker bugs 17:03:58 #info 2. Release candidate compose is available 17:03:59 #info 3. Test matrices for Beta are fully completed 17:04:05 * TheExorcist[m] is here 17:04:10 #topic Current status - blockers 17:04:11 #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/beta/buglist 17:04:25 #info 1 Proposed Blockers 17:04:25 #info 1 Accepted Blockers 17:04:34 let's look at the accepted blocker first 17:04:42 #topic (2124127) Regression booting Fedora on rockchip devices installed on PCIe NVME drives 17:04:42 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124127 17:04:42 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/894 17:04:42 #info Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, ON_QA 17:04:57 .hello funnelfiasco 17:04:58 TheExorcist[m]: Sorry, but user 'funnelfiasco' does not exist 17:05:40 Anyone tested the fix for this bug? 17:05:48 paging pbrobinson 17:05:58 the update was definitely in the beta candidate 17:06:04 https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/37/Fedora-37-20220906.0/compose/Everything/aarch64/os/Packages/u/ 17:06:56 coremodule or pwhalen: do you have any insight on this one? 17:06:56 actually. uh. 17:06:57 i see an issue here. 17:07:03 uh oh 17:07:12 we pulled uboot-tools-2022.10-0.5.rc4.fc37 into the candidate 17:07:25 pbrobinson: then later edited the update to have a -6.rc4.fc37 build 17:07:35 he didn't tell me anything about that, though. nirik did he mention it to you? 17:07:36 oof 17:07:45 not that I recall. 17:08:00 the changelog says "Update SMBIOS patch", which is vague. 17:08:39 so we don't know if we have an actual fix in the RC? 17:08:49 well, we have an unclear situation 17:09:01 i think this change is not related to the blocker, but i'm just checking in more detail 17:09:14 https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/uboot-tools/c/3b11dffa4fec507c63605a81cda9ab88a5e3ac79?branch=rawhide 17:09:32 yeah, I think from a super quick reading it's not related... but... not sure. 17:09:50 Sorry, I haven't tested the fix, nor do I have an nvme to test with 17:10:34 so, `smbios-test-dmi.patch` was added in the 0.5 build with no indication of what it's for 17:10:37 afaik, the newer uboot included an unrelated fix, not the blocker 17:10:54 in 0.6 it was rewritten as `smbios-Simplify-reporting-of-unknown-values.patch`, again with no clear indication of what it's for 17:12:13 so, i guess on the whole, we can say this is probably addressed in the candidate 17:12:23 but we need to find a way to push 0.5 stable if we're gonna ship it. 17:12:54 it'd be nice to have more confidence than "probably", too 17:13:30 it would, but what are ya gonna do 17:13:39 unless anyone has a pbrobinson summoner 17:13:48 does he have a signal we can project on the sky 17:14:02 * bcotton whispers "raspberry pi" repeatedly 17:14:44 nirik, how bananas is "a way to push 0.5 stable"? 17:14:51 or also jednorozec 17:15:31 I am sure we can do it somehow. ;) 17:16:18 i believe in you 17:16:29 it was obsoleted... so we can poke the db, or just bypass bodhi and tag it directly in. 17:16:58 (but then bodhi and reality will not match) 17:16:59 so... any objections to #agreed We believe 2124127 is sufficiently fixed for the Beta release 17:17:09 i'm okay with that. 17:17:51 we can bend reality to our will 17:17:51 peter did tell me he'd tested the actual fix, i don't think he did it by testing a beta 1.5 image, but still. 17:18:04 +1 17:18:21 yeah, +1 17:18:54 #agreed We believe 2124127 is sufficiently fixed for the Beta release 17:19:29 Ack 17:19:31 #action RelEng to ensure uboot-tools-2022.10-0.5.rc4.fc37 reaches the stable repos 17:20:32 i tried to ping peter 17:21:00 #topic (2124986) upowerd fail to initialize in kernel 5.19 printing a trace in kernel log 17:21:00 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124986 17:21:00 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/901 17:21:00 #info Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW 17:21:00 #info Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+0,0,-3) (-bcotton, -adamwill, -geraldosimiao) 17:21:33 so this obviously sucks if you're trying to use lenovo's thunderbolt docks, but doesn't really seem beta blocking to me 17:21:39 we can CommonBugs it 17:21:53 -1 bb +1 common 17:22:21 yeah. agreed 17:22:23 Or fix it to final release 😬 17:22:41 well, both. blockerbugs isn't just for final! 17:22:44 sigh 17:22:46 commonbugs, i mean 17:22:54 we cant support every hardware combo ootb 17:22:59 bcotton: adamw: the -5 build has the fix, the -6 has a different fix which isn't critical for beta 17:23:18 pbrobinson++ 17:23:18 bcotton: Karma for pbrobinson changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:23:25 🎉 17:23:36 pbrobinson: thanks. 17:24:00 bcotton: whispers like that will more than likely make me run away ;-) 17:24:36 pbrobinson: if you run far enough, you circle back around to here :-) 17:24:41 nirik: adamw: want me to edit the bodhi, add the old one back and then when it goes stable do another update with the new one? 17:25:16 proposed #agreed 2124986 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) CommonBugs - This does not violate any Basic or Beta release criteria. 17:25:28 Ack 17:25:30 pbrobinson: if we *can* do that, yeah. i'm not entirely sure you can run it backwards. 17:25:49 patch - CommonBugs doesn't go there, in this highly standardized data format 17:26:36 proposed $agreed 2124986 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - this does not violate any Basic or Beta release criteria. As it is annoying if you're trying to use the affected hardware, we will mention it in CommonBugs. 17:26:42 with extra dollar sign 17:27:15 * bcotton merges the patch 17:27:36 pbrobinson: you can't. ;( 17:27:37 adamw: want me to try> 17:27:39 ah 17:27:40 ack 17:28:17 ack 17:28:19 #agreed 2124986 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - this does not violate any Basic or Beta release criteria. As it is annoying if you're trying to use the affected hardware, we will mention it in CommonBugs. 17:28:20 Ack 17:28:23 bodhi won't let you remove all builds from a update, so you can't remove the old one from the old update or the new one from the new update... 17:28:44 #topic Current status - blockers 17:29:01 #info All accepted blockers are fixed 17:29:20 nirik: i suppose, as a *really* awful workaround, you could add some other package to the update, remove the problem one, add the fix, then remove the other package again. 17:29:26 excuse me while i throw up in my mouth a little bit. 17:29:33 #topic Current status - RC 17:29:39 we've got one! 17:30:00 anything missing from the RC? 17:31:00 one small thing 17:31:12 The server kvm image just barely missed the rc... 17:31:21 but it's not release blocking. 17:31:41 #info The (non-blocking) Server kvm image is not in RC 1.5 17:31:48 alas! 17:32:01 woe is us 17:32:05 ship it fast 17:32:09 why did it miss it? i thought we were trying to get it in? did we miss a bit? 17:33:54 yes, I failed to add the fake 'fedora-server-KVM' 'package' in koji... 17:34:10 so it built, but then failed because it wasn't a 'package' 17:34:35 ah, d'oh. 17:35:47 ah well. 17:36:47 yep. it's in nightlys now... 17:36:57 anyhow, just wanted to note it, thats all 17:36:58 computers! 17:37:07 any other questions or comments re: rc1.5? 17:38:02 ship it, ship it, ship it 17:38:43 #topic Current status - test matrices 17:38:43 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_37_Test_Results 17:40:23 so we're mostly okay. we're missing SAS and hardware RAID; I don't have an hw raid controller any more i don't think, so i can't do it 17:40:43 we're missing a few boxes for aarch64. i'm re-running some openqa tests that should fill out some of them. 17:41:11 has anyone done a server DVD or netinst install on aarch64 real hardware from a USB stick? we're missing that result. 17:42:23 Not me, I don't have that hardware. 17:44:18 #info Test coverage is okay except SAS, hardware RAID, and server DVD/netinst on aarch64 hardware from USB 17:45:02 also missing desktop login and real hardware printing on aarch64, but they work on x86_64 and no reason to imagine they'd be busted on aarch64 specifically 17:45:07 i dunno why we don't run desktop_login on aarch64 on openQA, actually. might just be an oversight. 17:47:59 anything else on the test coverage? 17:49:12 no. it'd be good if we had the missing bits, but...if we don't have the hardware for storage tests we don't have it, and the server image tests did work on aarch64 in qemu. 17:49:49 alrighty then 17:50:01 it's that time 17:50:01 #topic Go/No-Go decision 17:50:01 I will poll each team. Please reply “go” or “no-go” 17:50:02 FESCo? 17:50:09 okay, somebody has to have a blocker they're hiding, right? 17:50:09 go please 17:50:09 we can't make the early target date. this is scary. 17:50:34 adamw, it will be the first in a LOOONG time 17:50:51 right? I might actually take some PTO before Final Freeze :-) 17:50:52 2 releases? not that long... 17:51:43 RelEng? 17:52:23 go 17:53:23 * bcotton assumes nirik is go with both hats :-) 17:53:24 QA? 17:53:38 yes, go with all the hats. :) 17:53:49 er...i guess go? 17:53:53 Go yes 17:54:00 i love how enthusiastic adamw is 17:54:08 😂 17:54:17 #agreed Fedora Linux 37 Beta is GO 17:54:22 #info Fedora Linux 37 Beta will release on the early target date (2022-09-13) 17:54:22 * adamw still waiting for shoes to drop 17:54:22 #info F37 Final freeze begins on Tuesday 2022-10-04 17:54:32 he's a empty spectre, robbed of will and soul by the requirement that qa say 'go' :) 17:54:39 #action bcotton to announce decision 17:54:47 sorry, it's too late for shoes. i've already #agreed the minutes 17:54:51 #topic Open floor 17:54:52 Anything else we need to discuss before closing? 17:55:06 dont break it before final 17:57:12 good thing I wrote the release announcement this morning :-) 17:57:12 okay, well it sounds like we're done here 17:57:33 and i have an email to send 17:57:34 thanks, everyone! 17:57:44 🎉🎉 17:57:53 #endmeeting