17:13:07 <bcotton_> #startmeeting F37 Final Go/No-Go meeting
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17:13:14 <bcotton_> #meetingname F37-Final-Go_No_Go-meeting
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17:13:22 <bcotton_> #info If you're on Matrix, you can't see this right now
17:13:28 <bcotton_> #topic Roll Call
17:13:31 <dustymabe> .hi
17:13:32 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dusty@dustymabe.com>
17:13:36 <jednorozec> .hello humaton
17:13:36 <luna> .hi bittin
17:13:38 <zodbot> jednorozec: humaton 'Tomáš Hrčka' <thrcka@redhat.com>
17:13:41 <zodbot> luna: luna 'lu na' <valoriela@gmail.com>
17:13:43 <luna> .hello bittin
17:13:44 <zodbot> luna: bittin 'Luna Jernberg' <droidbittin@gmail.com>
17:13:54 <kadavro> Hi, kadavro
17:13:59 <dustymabe> weird that .hi doesn't work
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17:14:02 <kadavro> .hi
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17:14:05 <zodbot> kadavro: kadavro 'Kim Österberg' <kimsson78@gmail.com>
17:14:08 <geraldosimiao> .nextmeetings
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17:15:44 <bcotton> RIP zodbot
17:15:58 <bcotton_> here comes the bridge?
17:16:05 <geraldosimiao> 😔
17:16:07 <copperi> .hello
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17:16:19 <bcotton_> okay, let's get this over with
17:16:21 <luna> bcotton_: works on the IRC side
17:16:27 <bcotton_> #topic Purpose of this meeting
17:16:32 <geraldosimiao> Supermanbot knockitout
17:16:32 <adamw> go/no-go is in one minute i believe
17:16:50 <bcotton_> #info Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F37 is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria.
17:16:55 <bcotton_> #info This is determined in a few ways:
17:17:01 <bcotton_> #info 1. No remaining blocker bugs
17:17:05 <bcotton_> #info 2. Release candidate compose is available
17:17:10 <bcotton_> #info 3. Test matrices for Beta are fully completed
17:17:12 <bcotton> we'll see what zodbot has to say about that
17:17:12 <zodbot> bcotton: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
17:17:13 <bcotton_> #undo
17:17:13 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by bcotton_ at 17:17:10 : 3. Test matrices for Beta are fully completed
17:17:18 <bcotton_> #info 3. Test matrices for Final are fully completed
17:17:25 <bcotton_> #topic Current status - blockers
17:17:25 <bcotton> #meetingname F37-Final-Go_No_Go-meeting
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17:17:30 <bcotton_> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/final/buglist
17:17:32 <bcotton_> ohno!
17:17:33 <geraldosimiao> 😬
17:17:33 <bcotton> oh no
17:17:42 <bcotton_> #info 4 Proposed Blockers
17:17:44 <bcotton_> #info 1 Accepted Blockers
17:18:07 <bcotton_> adamw: want to run through the two that are overwhelmingly negative since we're here or just do the kernel one?
17:18:17 <bcotton_> and the gnome-settings
17:18:27 * bcotton goes to the infra channel
17:18:27 <geraldosimiao> Perhaps he's on at fedora meeting1?
17:18:27 <adamw> yeah, we have bad news
17:18:34 <lruzicka> bcotton, no need I think
17:18:53 <adamw_> .hello adamwill
17:18:54 <zodbot> adamw_: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com>
17:18:56 <bcotton_> #topic (2136471) Settings crashes when trying to edit WPA2 Enterprise wifi without a stored password
17:18:58 <bcotton_> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2136471
17:18:59 <bcotton_> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/981
17:19:01 <bcotton_> #info Proposed Blocker, gnome-control-center, NEW
17:19:12 <Eighth_Doctor> .hello ngompa
17:19:14 <adamw_> this one is pretty on the fence for me...
17:19:18 <adamw_> definitely at least an FE
17:19:21 <zodbot> Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com>
17:19:31 <bcotton_> yeah, it looks like this has been around since at least F35?
17:19:37 <Eighth_Doctor> oh dear
17:19:37 <bcotton> zodbot is dead everywhere
17:19:54 <geraldosimiao> No, zod is out at other rooms too
17:19:56 <geraldosimiao> bcotton: Yeah
17:20:21 * jednorozec sharpens stick and goes poke zodbot
17:20:23 <bcotton_> (yay for the bridge catching up 15 minutes later)
17:21:54 <geraldosimiao> So, let's go analogical:
17:21:54 <geraldosimiao> Hello my name is Geraldo, and I'm a fedora fan since...
17:21:55 <bcotton_> to me, it does seem like a pretty clear conditional violation of "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in typical use.", even if it's one we apparently missed in the past
17:22:04 <geraldosimiao> 😁
17:22:45 <bcotton> we'll wait a few more minutes to see if i can get someone to plug zodbot back in
17:22:50 <bcotton> otherwise, i'll just echo the chat through my teletype machine
17:22:50 <geraldosimiao> Ok.
17:22:50 <sgallagh> Maybe we hold off on the meeting until Zodbot is back in the hopes that a fix for the RPi 4 issue shows up?
17:22:51 <sgallagh> 👴
17:23:09 <geraldosimiao> 👀
17:23:22 <bcotton_> anyone else have opinions on this one
17:23:43 <bcotton_> I think i'd have to lean toward +1 blocker unless someone can talk me out of it :-)
17:24:06 <adamw_> bcotton_, well sure, but 'conditional' means 'not necessarily a blocker' :D
17:24:33 <adamw_> if it's conditional it's a subjective decision, this one's a bit close for me
17:24:37 <adamw_> i can see it both ways
17:24:44 <bcotton_> aye :-) but "prevents my manager from being able to edit his wifi connection at the office" is a good reason to put me on the "let's block" side of the fence
17:25:08 <lruzicka> blocker for me, but could be waived if needed.
17:25:24 <lruzicka> when it was there for two releases, it could wait for the update
17:25:32 <bcotton_> i guess the real question is "how often does someone need to edit a wpa2 connection?"
17:25:42 <luna> +-0
17:25:56 <bcotton_> err PEAP. but i know hwat i mean
17:26:14 <bcotton_> yeah, okay, i think i've talked myself out of it
17:26:25 <adamw_> oh yeah, i meant to mention 'it's broken on f36 too'