15:00:21 <zinebot[m]> #startmeeting magazine 15:00:21 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 27 15:00:21 2022 UTC. 15:00:21 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:21 <zodbot> The chair is zinebot[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:00:21 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine' 15:00:21 <zinebot[m]> #topic roll call 15:00:22 <zinebot[m]> #chair zinebot glb rlengland theevilskeleton 15:00:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: glb rlengland theevilskeleton zinebot zinebot[m] 15:00:46 <glb> .hello glb 15:00:47 <zodbot> glb: glb 'Gregory Bartholomew' <gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com> 15:00:54 <rlengland[m]> .hello2 15:00:54 <zodbot> rlengland[m]: Sorry, but user 'rlengland [m]' does not exist 15:01:10 <rlengland[m]> .hello rlenglnad 15:01:11 <zodbot> rlengland[m]: Sorry, but user 'rlenglnad' does not exist 15:01:25 <rlengland[m]> Maybe I'm not really here.... 15:01:51 <rlengland[m]> .hello rengland 15:01:52 <zodbot> rlengland[m]: Sorry, but user 'rengland' does not exist 15:01:56 <glb> That or you are actually an agent from lenengrad and zodbot won't let you in. 😛 15:02:25 <rlengland[m]> Sure knows what my avatar is... 15:02:39 <rlengland[m]> (It's the Martian confederation) 15:03:28 <TheEvilSkeleton> .hello theevilskeleton 15:03:29 <zodbot> TheEvilSkeleton: theevilskeleton 'Hari Rana' <theevilskeleton@riseup.net> 15:03:34 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:03:35 <zinebot[m]> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/ 15:03:36 <zinebot[m]> #topic agenda 15:03:36 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 1/ last week's stats -- 15:03:36 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 2/ articles in progress -- 15:03:36 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 3/ articles to review -- 15:03:36 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 4/ articles to edit -- 15:03:36 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 5/ publishing schedule -- 15:03:36 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 6/ editor of the week -- 15:03:37 <zinebot[m]> #info -- 7/ open floor -- 15:03:54 <glb> So how do we want to proceed? 15:04:24 <glb> rlengland: should we ping all the cards? Or are they reasonably recently pinged? 15:05:21 <rlengland[m]> The only one I've pinged recently wast the next BTRFS article. 15:05:45 <glb> I haven't even looked at the board in a while, so I guess we should do it then. 15:05:51 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:05:51 <zinebot[m]> #topic 1/ last week's stats 15:06:11 <glb> Oh yeah, this comes first. 15:06:19 <rlengland[m]> I added the 147 and 145 and assigned 145 to mattdm but there are no actions on them as yet 15:06:41 <rlengland[m]> s/the// 15:07:20 <glb> #info 56K pageviews for the week of Oct. 17th. Not bad considering ... 15:07:49 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:07:50 <zinebot[m]> #topic 2/ articles in progress 15:07:51 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'in-progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author? 15:07:52 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:07:53 <zinebot[m]> #info 102: Joining clients to Samba Domain Controller (author: dklima) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:07:53 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/102 15:07:54 <zinebot[m]> #info 109: Understanding BTRFS and putting it to good use "Subvolumes" (author: hartan) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:07:55 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/109 15:07:56 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36919&preview=true 15:07:57 <zinebot[m]> #info 105: Fedora Linux editions part 3: Labs (author: armanwu) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:07:57 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/105 15:07:58 <zinebot[m]> #info 145: Fedora Linux 37 Final release announcement (author: mattdm) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:08:25 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/147 15:09:32 <glb> Seems to be a bug in zinebot that I need to fix -- the last item is missing its title. 15:09:53 <glb> #action: glb to fix zinebot so all card titles are displayed. 15:10:16 <glb> For the record, 147 is "Rebasing Silverblue" 15:11:01 <glb> I don't know anything about Silverblue, so I wouldn't be the one to write that article. I guess we'll have to find whoever did it last time and ping them? 15:11:53 <glb> Also, I'm surprised that the Final release announcement hasn't been uploaded to WordPress yet. Maybe someone should ping bcotton? 15:13:16 <rlengland[m]> I assigned that to mattdm not knowing who it should go to. I can reassign and ping 15:13:39 <glb> I'm not sure if it is actually Ben or Matt who writes those. 15:13:57 <glb> I think Ben takes care of the actual publishing in any case. 15:14:01 <bcotton> it's me and i am aware 15:14:13 <glb> Speak of the devil! 15:14:25 <glb> Do you also publish the "What's New"? 15:14:30 <bcotton> Nope 15:14:53 <rlengland[m]> Should I assign the release announcement to you @bcotton? 15:14:55 <glb> OK, I guess one of us will do that then ... and the sidebar? 15:15:22 <rlengland[m]> I'll handle the side bar on release day 15:15:22 <glb> By "that", I mean the "What's New" article. 15:15:51 <glb> * I mean publishing the "What's 15:17:12 <glb> Alright, let's see if I can get back on track. 🙂 15:17:18 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:17:19 <zinebot[m]> #info 102: Joining clients to Samba Domain Controller (author: dklima) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:17:19 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/102 15:17:36 <glb> Maybe this one should be moved to stalled? 15:17:54 <bcotton> rlengland: sure, you can assign it to me 15:18:42 <glb> 🔹 move 102 stalled 15:18:43 <zinebot[m]> card 102 moved to 'stalled' 15:18:51 <zinebot[m]> #info 109: Understanding BTRFS and putting it to good use "Subvolumes" (author: hartan) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:18:51 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:18:52 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=36919&preview=true 15:18:52 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/109 15:19:31 <glb> Looks like this one has been pinged. 15:19:36 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:19:38 <rlengland[m]> Pinged 109 yesterday 15:19:38 <zinebot[m]> #info 105: Fedora Linux editions part 3: Labs (author: armanwu) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:19:38 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/105 15:20:09 <glb> Looks like this one has had very recent progress in WordPress. 15:20:38 <glb> https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=37282&preview=true 15:20:57 <glb> Obviously not done yet though. 15:20:59 <glb> We'll just leave him to it. 15:21:03 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:21:03 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/145 15:21:04 <zinebot[m]> #info 145: Fedora Linux 37 Final release announcement (author: mattdm) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress) 15:21:25 <glb> We've already discussed this one. 🙂 15:21:29 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:21:30 <zinebot[m]> #info 147: Rebasing Silverblue (fpca: unknown) (status: in-progress) 15:21:31 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/147 15:21:56 <glb> TheEvilSkeleton: Would you be able to take care of this one? 15:22:17 <glb> I think you are more experienced with Silverblue that either of us. 15:22:24 <TheEvilSkeleton> Yeah I wouldn't mind 15:22:43 <glb> theevilskeleton++ 15:22:43 <zodbot> glb: Karma for theevilskeleton changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:22:51 <rlengland[m]> This was the previous rebase https://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-rebase-to-fedora-linux-36-on-silverblue/ 15:23:12 <rlengland[m]> Michal Konečný 15:24:23 <glb> Well, Hari can try to ping the previous author to get him to write the next one or he can jump in and do it himself. Either way is fine with me. 🙂 15:24:50 <glb> It is first-come, first-serve as far as I'm concerned. 🙂 15:25:10 <glb> Unless someone things that is the wrong policy? 15:25:25 <rlengland[m]> 👍️ Just added that for reference 15:25:25 <glb> s/things/thinks/ 15:25:32 <bytehackr> \o 15:25:54 <glb> Hi bytehackr 🙂 15:26:21 <glb> OK, onward then ... 15:26:22 <zinebot[m]> card not found or end of column 15:26:22 <glb> 🔹 next card 15:26:29 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:26:30 <zinebot[m]> #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/ 15:26:31 <zinebot[m]> #info Are there any upcoming test days? 15:26:37 <glb> 🔹 show testdays 15:26:37 <zinebot[m]> #info 2022-10-16: Fedora Kernel 6.0 Test Day (7 days) 15:27:13 <glb> I think these have been being posted to the commblog. 15:28:20 <glb> I'm not sure if there is a reason that they are skipping Fedora Magazine. They might be getting better feedback from the commblog readers or something. 15:28:23 <rlengland[m]> That kernel test went out on 13 Oct 15:28:32 <glb> Oh. 15:28:57 <glb> I missed it. 🙂 15:29:07 <rlengland[m]> #144 15:29:08 <glb> rlengland++ 15:29:51 <glb> Zodbot really doesn't seem to want to acknowledge your existance. 😛 15:30:03 <glb> s/existance/existence/ 15:30:24 <glb> Well, anyway, thanks for making sure the kernel test day article when through. 15:30:31 <zinebot[m]> #info Check the release schedule. 15:30:31 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:30:32 <zinebot[m]> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-magazine-tasks.html 15:30:32 <rlengland[m]> What can I say. Last one asked to the dance again. 15:30:45 <glb> 🔹 show schedule 15:30:46 <zinebot[m]> 2022-09-06: Prepare Beta release announcement... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/93a99939cd4b3c42ee1ad4fa6c7d91b5a0e590e3>) 15:31:42 <glb> So the "What's New" should go out on the same day as the Final release announcement. 15:32:01 <glb> And you are going to take care of that right Richard? 15:32:25 <rlengland[m]> Sure. The same time I update the sidebar 15:32:29 <glb> I guess it should wait until after Ben publishes the release announcement. 15:32:47 <glb> I think that tends to happen around 2PM, but I'm not sure. 15:33:02 <glb> Well, 2PM central time. 15:33:06 <rlengland[m]> Which time zone :-) 15:33:11 <rlengland[m]> ah 15:33:36 <rlengland[m]> okay 15:33:51 <glb> TheEvilSkeleton: It looks like the Silverblue article is supposed to go out the following day. 15:34:36 <glb> I'd be surprised if they delay the Final release another week, so you might want to try to get that ready by Wednesday if possible. 15:35:05 <glb> I wouldn't consider it the end of the world or anything if you cannot get it done by then though. So no worries. 🙂 15:35:31 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:35:34 <zinebot[m]> #topic 3/ articles to review 15:35:35 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to-edit' (finished) column or to the 'in-progress' (needs more work) column and provide feedback. 15:35:35 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:35:35 <zinebot[m]> #info 141: What's new in F37 Workstation? (author: mxanthropocene) (fpca: signed) (status: review) 15:35:35 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/141 15:35:35 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=37203&preview=true 15:36:16 <glb> So this one is really done and just waiting for publication right? 15:36:31 <rlengland[m]> Yes 15:36:49 <glb> OK, I'm going to go ahead and move it over to the next column then. 15:37:01 <glb> 🔹 move 141 to-edit 15:37:02 <zinebot[m]> card 141 moved to 'to-edit' 15:37:15 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:37:17 <zinebot[m]> #topic 4/ articles to edit 15:37:18 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator. 15:37:18 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:37:18 <zinebot[m]> #info 141: What's new in F37 Workstation? (author: mxanthropocene) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:37:18 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/141 15:37:18 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=37203&preview=true 15:38:09 <glb> Alright, the scheduling gets a bit tricky here because we don't know for sure if these will go out until after the go/no-go meeting. 15:39:15 <glb> I'm going to go ahead and put the times on the cards assuming that the release will happen next week, but everything could get delayed. So these times are not definative. 15:41:46 <glb> 🔹 list column 15:42:14 <glb> I forgot the command to relist the cards. 15:42:24 <glb> 🔹 show column 15:42:45 <glb> Oh well. 15:42:49 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:42:53 <zinebot[m]> #topic 5/ publishing schedule 15:42:54 <zinebot[m]> #info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, decide the publishing schedule for the upcomming week. 15:42:54 <zinebot[m]> #info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in-progress' or even the 'ideas' columns come up with additional content. 15:42:55 <zinebot[m]> #link board: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles 15:42:55 <zinebot[m]> #info 145: Fedora Linux 37 Final release announcement (author: bcotton) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:42:55 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/145 15:42:56 <zinebot[m]> #info 141: What's new in F37 Workstation? (author: mxanthropocene) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:42:56 <zinebot[m]> #info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/141 15:42:56 <zinebot[m]> #info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=37203&preview=true 15:42:57 <zinebot[m]> #info 147: Rebasing Silverblue (author: theevilskeleton) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit) 15:43:27 <glb> 🔹 show proposed 15:43:30 <zinebot[m]> #proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 🅣 2022-11-01 bcotton will edit 145 Fedora Linux 37 Final release announcement； 🅣 2022-11-01 rlengland will edit 141 What's new in F37 Workstation?； 🅦 2022-11-02 theevilskeleton will edit 147 Rebasing Silverblue； 15:44:01 <rlengland[m]> +1 15:44:13 <rlengland[m]> 👍️ 15:44:32 <glb> And I'll take Hari's thumbs up as a +1 as well. 🙂 15:44:36 <rlengland[m]> .hello rlengland 15:44:37 <zodbot> rlengland[m]: rlengland 'Richard England' <rlengland@gmail.com> 15:44:43 <glb> 🔹 show agreed 15:44:46 <zinebot[m]> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 🅣 2022-11-01 bcotton will edit 145 Fedora Linux 37 Final release announcement🔹； 🅣 2022-11-01 rlengland will edit 141 What's new in F37 Workstation?🔸； 🅦 2022-11-02 theevilskeleton will edit 147 Rebasing Silverblue🔸； {🔹= forum calendar update succeeded, 🔸= forum calendar update failed } 15:44:52 <rlengland[m]> Hey it knows about me. 15:44:55 <rlengland[m]> ?? 15:45:02 <glb> So how did you get it to work? 15:45:18 <rlengland[m]> I have NO idea. 15:45:42 <glb> Maybe I can give you that cookie now. 15:45:47 <glb> rlengland++ 15:46:12 <glb> Hmm, still no cookies for you I guess. 😛 15:46:42 <rlengland[m]> oh well, no soup, no cookies 15:46:54 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:46:55 <zinebot[m]> #topic 6/ editor of the week 15:47:13 <glb> I guess I don't even need to ask. 15:47:22 <glb> 🔹 eotw glb 15:47:22 <zinebot[m]> #info glb will be editor of the week starting 2022-10-30 15:47:25 <rlengland[m]> I nominate @glb. He does a swell job 15:47:29 <glb> 🔹 next topic 15:47:29 <zinebot[m]> #topic 7/ open floor 15:47:35 <glb> Any thoughts? 15:48:18 <rlengland[m]> I keep trying to figure out how to drum up some business. 15:48:33 <glb> BTW, I filled an issue with Marketing to see if they can solicit contributors for Fedora Magazine. 15:48:36 <glb> https://gitlab.com/fedora/marketing/marketing-planning/-/issues/27 15:49:11 <rlengland[m]> I guess we can rerun a "we need your help, this is a user driven magazine" article again. It's been a while. 15:49:31 <rlengland[m]> @glb that sounds like a good iea 15:49:33 <rlengland[m]> idea 15:49:53 <glb> Writing another article sounds good too. 15:50:16 <glb> I guess that's all I got. 15:50:43 <rlengland[m]> same here 15:50:57 <glb> OK then. Until next time ... 15:51:03 <glb> #endmeeting