20:00:19 <tdawson> #startmeeting EPEL (2023-03-15)
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20:00:20 <tdawson> #meetingname epel
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20:00:22 <tdawson> #chair nirik tdawson pgreco carlwgeorge salimma dcavalca dherrera gotmax23 smooge
20:00:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: carlwgeorge dcavalca dherrera gotmax23 nirik pgreco salimma smooge tdawson
20:00:23 <tdawson> #topic aloha
20:00:25 <rsc> .hello robert
20:00:26 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
20:00:41 <tdawson> Hello rsc
20:00:53 <gotmax23> .hi
20:00:54 <zodbot> gotmax23: gotmax23 'Maxwell G' <maxwell@gtmx.me>
20:01:01 <tdawson> Hi gotmax23
20:01:14 <gotmax23> 👋
20:01:30 <smooge> here
20:01:44 <tdawson> Howdy smooge
20:02:28 <davide> .hello dcavalca
20:02:29 <zodbot> davide: dcavalca 'Davide Cavalca' <davide@cavalca.name>
20:03:20 <tdawson> Hello davide
20:03:43 <carlwgeorge> .hi
20:03:44 <zodbot> carlwgeorge: carlwgeorge 'Carl George' <carl@redhat.com>
20:04:06 <tdawson> Hi carlwgeorge
20:05:14 <tdawson> #topic End Of Life (EOL)
20:05:16 <tdawson> RHEL 7 will go EOL on 2024-06-30
20:05:17 <tdawson> CentOS Stream 8 goes EOL in 2024-05-31
20:05:19 <tdawson> CentOS Stream 9 goes EOL in 2027-05-31
20:05:33 <smooge> to be clear this is like in a year so plenty of time right?
20:05:33 <tdawson> #topic EPEL Issues https://pagure.io/epel/issues
20:05:35 <tdawson> https://pagure.io/epel/issues?tags=meeting&status=Open
20:05:54 <tdawson> smooge: Yep
20:06:45 <tdawson> smooge: I think it will take about three months for the EOL party to be planned, so start planning the festival about jan of next year.
20:07:00 <tdawson> Nothing tagged in for the meeting.
20:07:13 <tdawson> #topic Old Business
20:08:05 <tdawson> I also don't have anything for Old Business ... but I've been wrong before, anything for Old Business ?
20:08:33 <gotmax23> Are there any updates on the EPEL2RHEL stuff? I got two EPEL2RHEL bugs today so it reminded me.
20:09:14 <tdawson> Not yet.  But I did see your comment on your bug, and I will bring it up.
20:10:06 <tdawson> For those that didn't see, gotmax23 commented that there was alot of individual commits to the bugs at the beginning.
20:10:23 <gotmax23> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2178564#c4
20:10:25 <gotmax23> yeah :)
20:10:46 <tdawson> I ws going to bring it to the people to see if they could do everything at the begginng in one thing, instead of each indivdual thing being seperate.
20:11:00 <gotmax23> :nod:
20:11:51 <tdawson> My sentance sounds odd, but I think it gives the idea.  gotmax23's comment says it much better.
20:11:59 <gotmax23> and then the other things were changing the bug title to clarify that the package shouldn't be immediately retired and automating the process, but we've already discussed that at length :)
20:12:22 <gotmax23> tdawson: no, I understood :)
20:13:33 * gotmax23 has nothing else for this topic
20:13:48 <tdawson> ok, but thank you for bringing it up.
20:13:54 <tdawson> Any other Old Business?
20:14:25 <smooge> not from me
20:14:39 <tdawson> #topic General Issues / Open Floor
20:14:46 <tdawson> I do have one Open Floor topic
20:14:47 <smooge> Next week's meeting
20:14:57 <tdawson> Yep :)
20:15:02 <smooge> Ha
20:15:11 <tdawson> I, and several others, will not be here next week.
20:15:38 <smooge> I could Al Haig the meeting but I don't think anyone needs me to carry the football again
20:15:48 <tdawson> Ha~
20:16:05 <gotmax23> And the week after that, DST starts in the US. I assume we're still pinned to 4:00 p.m. Eastern?
20:16:15 <tdawson> Things are a bit on the slow side right now, I don't think it would be a problem canceling next weeks meeting.
20:16:15 * smooge makes sure his jokes are only comprehensible for people over 40
20:16:28 <davide> West coast is already on DST fyi :)
20:16:39 <neil> yeah DST already happened this past weekend
20:16:40 <smooge> gotmax23: I think you mean EU starts DST
20:16:42 <davide> But yeah I'm fine canceling as well
20:16:49 <tdawson> gotmax23: Correct, We choose doing things on Eastern, instead of UTC
20:16:56 * nirik waves
20:17:05 <nirik> I hate DST.
20:17:08 <tdawson> Howdy nirik
20:17:13 <neil> smooge: I got it, but i'm probably not the right audience :P
20:17:53 <nirik> I will also not be here next week at all. ;)
20:17:55 <smooge> if you remember or studied the 70's and 80's you are the right audience
20:18:14 <gotmax23> smooge: Yes, I did
20:18:20 <neil> what if I'm a 50 year old stuck in a younger body
20:18:23 <smooge> nirik: lets be honest, you hate timezones. DST is just a cherry on the top of that :)
20:18:41 <marcdeop[m]> smooge: I remember the late 80s....
20:18:46 * marcdeop[m] feels old
20:19:11 <smooge> remembers (barely) the last 2 moon landings
20:19:25 <neil> insofar as they were real, anyways...
20:19:56 <carlwgeorge> I've got one thing for open floor, but bear with me typing on mobile
20:20:20 <tdawson> carlwgeorge: OK.  Start typing and we'll keep talking until you get it sent.
20:20:24 <smooge> ... is it a polar bear or a grizzly bear on your mobile?
20:20:56 <tdawson> Are we ok canceling next weeks meeting?  Or do we want to keep it and have someone else chair it?
20:21:07 <smooge> +1 cancel next week
20:21:18 <davide> +1 to cancel
20:21:19 <gotmax23> I'm fine with cancelling
20:21:38 <gotmax23> I have enough on my Wednesday afternoon schedule :)
20:22:07 <tdawson> +1 from me as well.  Even though I won't be here to begin with.
20:22:11 <carlwgeorge> I don't have the link handy, but there is a bug about having separate latest compose links for CentOS Stream 9 and 10.  it was closed with intent to complete, but not done yet.
20:22:57 <carlwgeorge> we need that for fedpkg and fedscm-admin to do EPEL branch checks
20:24:10 <tdawson> carlwgeorge: I remember that, and closed that, because we have seperate stream-8, stream-9 and stream-10 branches ... we just haven't moved stream-9 over yet.
20:24:31 <tdawson> carlwgeorge: If you want to open it again until we get stream-9 moved over, that's fine.
20:25:07 <carlwgeorge> yeah basically just that, i don't trust myself to remember so i'd like the bug getting closed to be my reminder to submit changes to fedpkg/fedscm-admin
20:25:50 <tdawson> Sounds good.  Open it back again, and give a note that you'd like it open until the stream-9 stuff get's moved over.
20:26:12 <carlwgeorge> now that stream 8 is on the same setup, do we want to update the check to work the same on 8 as it does on 9?  i.e. not allow and epel8 branch if the package is in the stream 8 compose?
20:26:14 <tdawson> We (hopefully) will get it moved over before stream-10 comes out.
20:26:34 <carlwgeorge> currently 8 does the old check, the el8.json file or whatever it's called, with all the pkgs in rhel8
20:29:00 <carlwgeorge> back at my computer and got the link for any interested in subscribing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2005139
20:30:01 <tdawson> Ha ... you got it there right when I found it. :)
20:31:05 <carlwgeorge> i'm fine leaving epel8 on the old check, there isn't really an incentive for changing it other than making it uniform with epel9+
20:31:32 <tdawson> carlwgeorge: Anyway, feel free to open it, I was debating whether I should close it or not, but figured you could now do epel8, so it was probrubly good enough.
20:32:58 <tdawson> Anybody have anything else for Open Floor?
20:33:10 <smooge> not me. i need to go feed a cat
20:33:14 <carlwgeorge> i need to get my head in that code base again to think about how the epel10 branch checks will work in the new model, so at that time i'll think about if it makes sense to leave epel8 on the old check or update it to the new style
20:33:33 <carlwgeorge> anyways, that's it from me
20:33:39 <davide> Just a quick announcement: I put up tickets to request all Aspell dictionaries to be branched in epel9
20:33:47 <carlwgeorge> also i'm +1 to cancelling next week's meeting, from the earlier thing
20:33:59 <davide> As right now we don't ship any, and that makes a bunch of things sad
20:34:14 <pgreco> hello! happy dst for everybody....., sorry!
20:34:17 <tdawson> davide: Thank you for that ... how many are there?
20:34:26 <neil> o/ pgreco
20:34:28 <davide> A dozen or so
20:34:33 <tdawson> Hello pgreco
20:35:28 * pgreco tries to catch up and reads back...
20:36:20 <tdawson> pgreco: quick summary ... nothing too dramatic, but I and several others won't be here next week and thus far the concenses is to cancel next weeks meeting.
20:36:41 <pgreco> ok, perfect, not that it matters but +1
20:37:53 <tdawson> Anything else for Open Floor?
20:39:24 <tdawson> Thank you all for comming.  And thank you all for all your work on EPEL and the EPEL community.
20:39:42 <tdawson> I'll talk to ya'll in two weeks, if not sooner.
20:39:56 <tdawson> #endmeeting