#fedora-meeting: F38 Final Go/No-Go meeting

Meeting started by amoloney at 17:05:46 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (amoloney, 17:05:53)
  2. Purpose of this meeting (amoloney, 17:06:28)
    1. Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F38 Final is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. (amoloney, 17:06:28)
    2. This is determined in a few ways: (amoloney, 17:06:42)
    3. 1. No remaining blocker bugs (amoloney, 17:06:49)
    4. 2. Release candidate compose is available (amoloney, 17:06:57)
    5. 3. Test matrices are fully completed (amoloney, 17:07:07)

  3. Current status - blockers (amoloney, 17:07:34)
    1. https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/final/buglist (amoloney, 17:07:34)
    2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2185827 is confirmed fixed in both RC-1.4 and RC-1.5 (adamw, 17:09:13)

  4. (2113005) Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to boot on some boards (adamw, 17:09:40)
  5. (2113005) Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to boot on some boards (adamw, 17:09:52)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 (adamw, 17:09:58)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1087 (adamw, 17:10:01)
    3. Accepted Blocker, shim, NEW (adamw, 17:10:06)
    4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 has been waived and is added to the CommonBugs page for reference (amoloney, 17:13:15)
    5. AGREED: 2113005 - waived to F39 Beta blocker - we agreed to waive this blocker as a "difficult to fix" blocker per https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process#Exceptional_cases (external constraints make it impractical to address this in any reasonable timeframe). for now it becomes an f39 beta blocker. (adamw, 17:14:34)

  6. (2186358) Missing package warning when installing to NVMe device with F38 DVD and no network (adamw, 17:14:59)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2186358 (adamw, 17:15:02)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1153 (adamw, 17:15:06)
    3. Proposed Blocker, distribution, VERIFIED (adamw, 17:15:11)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+5,0,-0) (+tflink, +geraldosimiao, +sumantrom, +augenauf, +kparal) (adamw, 17:15:21)
    5. AGREED: 2186358 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of "The installer must be able to complete an installation using any supported locally connected storage interface" combined with "Any installation method or process designed to run unattended must do so. There should be no prompts requiring user intervention", in the case of an attempted unattended install of Server DVD to NVMe storage (adamw, 17:31:30)
    6. AGREED: we took a vote on waiving 2186358 as a late blocker (thus clearing RC-1.4), the vote was +3.5/-6, so the proposal does *not* succeed, the bug is not waived and stands as a blocker in RC-1.4 (adamw, 17:39:44)
    7. bug 2186358 is not waived and blocks RC-1.4 (amoloney, 17:43:22)

  7. Current status - test matrices (amoloney, 17:45:12)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_38_Test_Results (amoloney, 17:45:31)
    2. combined test coverage for RC-1.4 and RC-1.5 is very good, and the difference between them is small; we should have confidence in the quality of either (aside from the accepted blocker in 1.4) or any combination of the two (adamw, 17:48:51)

  8. Current status - RC (amoloney, 17:57:18)
    1. we have an RC-1.4 which is disqualified by the accepted blocker (and missing s390x cloud base) but otherwise good (adamw, 17:58:44)
    2. we have RC-1.5 with the fix for the blocker, but missing many other images, including ones we consider important even if they're not technically blocking, like Silverblue x86_64 and the new Sway spin (adamw, 17:59:25)
    3. combining RC-1.4 and RC-1.5 in some way is theoretically possible but practically difficult and likely to result in some kind of unforeseen mess (adamw, 18:00:04)

  9. Go/No-Go decision (amoloney, 18:03:34)
    1. the meeting is in a waiting period while an RC-1.6 runs with some infra changes before reconvening to vote to Go/No Go (amoloney, 18:10:47)
    2. https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/f37-final-go_no_go-meeting/f37-final-go_no_go-meeting.2022-10-27-17.01.log.txt (adamw, 18:21:01)
    3. https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11378#comment-851434 (adamw, 18:21:54)
    4. F38 Go/No Go Meeting is in an OPEN state while a new RC is generated (RC-1.6). The meeting will reconvene in ~4 hours to check the status and test coverage of the new compose (amoloney, 18:31:04)
    5. https://www.jdieter.net/posts/2021/03/28/the-paddys-day-bug/ (Eighth_Doctor, 18:36:39)
    6. AGREED: we will adjourn the meeting while RC-1.6 composes and undergoes smoke testing. we will reconvene at 0000 UTC (adamw, 18:50:51)


Meeting ended at 18:51:25 UTC (full logs).

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