16:02:00 <tdawson> #startmeeting ELN (2022-07-14)
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16:02:11 <tdawson> #meetingname eln
16:02:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'eln'
16:02:28 <neil> .hi
16:02:29 <zodbot> neil: neil 'Neil Hanlon' <neil@shrug.pw>
16:02:34 <yselkowitz[m]> .hello yselkowitz
16:02:35 <zodbot> yselkowitz[m]: yselkowitz 'Yaakov Selkowitz' <yselkowi@redhat.com>
16:02:39 <tdawson> sgallagh is going to be late, if me makes it.
16:02:47 <tdawson> Hi neil
16:02:51 <tdawson> Hello yselkowitz[m]
16:02:53 <neil> heya tdawson - happy friday
16:03:07 <bstinson> .hi
16:03:08 <zodbot> bstinson: bstinson 'Brian Stinson' <brian@bstinson.com>
16:03:16 <tdawson> Hi bstinson
16:03:55 <davide> .hello dcavalca
16:03:56 <zodbot> davide: dcavalca 'Davide Cavalca' <davide@cavalca.name>
16:03:56 <tdawson> It is friday ... and I have to say, despite several things failling all over the place, it's been a pretty good week.
16:04:09 <tdawson> Hello davide
16:05:28 <tdawson> sgallagh had to leave quickly, so I don't know what he had on the agenda.  So we'll open it up.  Does anyone have anything they need to talk about this week?
16:06:16 * neil is just here to follow along and help where he can
16:06:46 <davide> my talk at devconfcz on eln at meta is up if anybody's interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKlXWzmq2xU
16:08:06 <tdawson> Cool.  I'm going to have to give that a watch.
16:08:30 <davide> the other thing I wanted to bring up is the fallout from the python 3.12 sidetag merge
16:08:42 <davide> I've noticed several failures in my ELN Extras workflows
16:09:13 <tdawson> That does sound like a good topic.
16:09:33 <tdawson> #topic python 3.12 fallout/problems
16:09:41 <yselkowitz[m]> it has been a difficult rebuild and it's far from complete
16:10:00 <yselkowitz[m]> would like to hear what's still failing
16:10:24 <davide> awscli, awscli2 and azure-cli were the ones I was looking at
16:10:34 <yselkowitz[m]> unfortunately eln itself has taken all my time, no chance to look at eln-extras
16:11:02 <davide> I already fixed python-TestSlide, and Michel pushed a build for python-invoke this morning, which should allow unblocking azure-cli
16:11:34 <tdawson> davide: Do they build on Rawhide?
16:12:53 <davide> nope
16:13:14 <yselkowitz[m]> fwiw the 3.12 rebuild isn't complete in rawhide either
16:13:41 <tdawson> Well, that's sorta a good thing ... at least if it builds in rawhide, you know there is more hope that it will build in ELN.
16:15:08 <tdawson> I think related to the python3.12 ... there is also the problem that DBS keeps falling over whenever a decent side-tag gets tagged in.
16:15:49 <tdawson> That is something that sgallagh is currently working on, possibly with a major rewrite of DBS.
16:16:24 <yselkowitz[m]> yes, there were three noticable ones yesterday, had to clean them up by hand
16:16:34 <yselkowitz[m]> Perl 5.38, OCaml 5.0, ICU 73
16:16:41 <bstinson> davide: are you working with mhayden and davdunc on those cli tools? i bet they'd be interested in what you're seeing
16:17:28 <yselkowitz[m]> and next week is supposed to be the F39 mass rebuild, which I'm concerned will be a disaster given the current state of Python 3.12 porting
16:19:57 <tdawson> Any other topics?  Other than failed builds and/or failed infrastructure?
16:20:49 <yselkowitz[m]> but that was my entire week! :-)
16:21:14 <tdawson> :)
16:21:38 <tdawson> It was.  It was/is a busy week for you.
16:22:42 <tdawson> I'm fine having a shorter meeting.  I wanted to make sure people were able to discuss items they wanted to discuss.
16:23:05 <tdawson> But if we're ok, then I'm fine calling it a short meeting.
16:24:44 <tdawson> OK, I'm going to call it.  Thank you all for comming.  We'll meet again in two weeks.
16:25:02 <tdawson> #endmeeting