17:31:12 <bexelbie> #startmeeting Mindshare
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17:31:12 <bexelbie> #chair jsmith sumantrom robyduck nb x3mboy bt0dotninja bexelbie bt0 relrod
17:31:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: bexelbie bt0 bt0dotninja jsmith nb relrod robyduck sumantrom x3mboy
17:31:12 <bexelbie> #topic Roll Call
17:31:13 <bexelbie> .hello bex
17:31:13 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bexelbie@redhat.com>
17:31:26 <jsmith> .hello jsmith
17:31:27 <zodbot> jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' <jsmith.fedora@gmail.com>
17:31:28 <nb> .hello2
17:31:29 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nick@bebout.net>
17:33:10 <bexelbie> #topic Agenda
17:33:10 <bexelbie> Proposed: Tickets: 122, next meetings note, and then Open Floor
17:33:10 <bexelbie> Any suggested additions or modifications?
17:33:28 <bt0_> no
17:33:46 <sumantro> nopes
17:34:04 <relrod> .hello codeblock
17:34:04 <bexelbie> #topic #122 Are we changing the Fedora websites for F30?
17:34:04 <zodbot> relrod: codeblock 'Rick Elrod' <codeblock@elrod.me>
17:34:05 <bexelbie> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/122
17:34:05 <bexelbie> I am hoping relrod is here to speak to this ...
17:34:22 <bexelbie> there is some question around the timing of the F30 website
17:34:32 <bexelbie> apparently it is a MASSIVE text change and translations don't have enough time
17:34:43 <bexelbie> we've been asked to figure out if the new design should be delayed
17:34:44 <bexelbie> aiui
17:34:45 <bexelbie> relrod, ??
17:35:23 <relrod> bexelbie: I'm here, but tbh I don't have much to add to it. My view on it is "let's get as far as we can on translations, and if they aren't quite finished... they're super easy to deploy after GA, so it's not a huge deal"...
17:35:33 <relrod> that said we *can* push the new site to after GA, but I'd be a bit sad
17:36:05 <bexelbie> I understand you would be sad, however our translation teams pride themselves on making our sites accessible
17:36:15 <bexelbie> it does seem to be hard to say to them "well this isn't a big deal"
17:36:42 <bexelbie> I get the impression it is a big deal for them
17:36:52 <bexelbie> on the other hand, it seems we need this roll out - and a lot of work is going on for it
17:37:05 <jsmith> I tend to agree with bexelbie -- it's at least *somewhat* of a big deal
17:37:24 <bexelbie> relrod, has the text been pushed to Zanata?
17:37:44 <relrod> bexelbie: It's been pushed, but they want me to move it to another group and I need to figure out how to do that.
17:38:16 <relrod> This is why I wanted them to set up the project for me...
17:38:25 <nb> I think we need to get the website up for GA
17:38:38 <nb> it seems that either way there will be translation changes
17:38:59 <sumantro> I think its fairly big deal between now and GA ... to get everything translated. But I will incline to get it gradually translated post GA if thats the cases
17:39:00 <relrod> yeah, there are pages that don't even have content yet, because they aren't needed at GA but will be in the coming weeks
17:39:16 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Reading, sorry for the delay
17:39:52 <bexelbie> pages that aren't need at GA shouldn't be stopping us from getting the oens that are needed, translated
17:40:01 <bexelbie> and we can definitely hold those other pages until translations are complete
17:40:38 <bexelbie> relrod, as you've acknowledged, you were late bringing them team in - can you take point on the Zanata pieces?
17:40:41 <bexelbie> or are you blocked?
17:40:53 <bexelbie> I know that translations is trying to reboot - and this will be a hard blow for them
17:41:04 <bexelbie> if the translations get dropped on the main website
17:41:34 <relrod> bexelbie: I'm only blocked on not knowing how to use Zanata properly (and maybe on having permissions to create the project in the existing 'web' group)
17:41:36 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I think translations should be a blocker for the site, and the site could probably be a blocker for the release
17:42:16 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Maybe I'm wrong, I use the site in English tbh
17:42:20 <nb> how long is it expected to take for the translations to be complete
17:42:23 <bexelbie> I gather that the council wants us to make a decision and they'll consider it if needed
17:42:38 <bexelbie> I've pinged Jean-Baptiste to see if he can join us to answer that nb
17:42:48 <bexelbie> relrod, do you know how much text there is?  that is a driver here
17:43:18 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Depending on how much strings are, and how many languages we want to have and how much percentage is considered 'ready to roll'
17:43:22 <relrod> there are currently 118 strings.
17:44:04 <bexelbie> some folks here are/have been translators, iirc - can you estimate 118 strings?
17:44:44 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> 118 strings for me (from en to es) should take like 4 full dedicated hours
17:44:47 <jsmith> Depends on the size/length/complexity of the strings :-)
17:45:11 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Using the help from zanata
17:45:21 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> That consider 'similar strings'
17:45:23 <bexelbie> sounds like we should expect a week at a minimum then
17:45:35 <bexelbie> with reviews and everything else
17:45:45 <bt0_> at least a week :(
17:45:55 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> But it's been a looooong looooong really long time since the last time I've dedicated for complete hours to Fedora
17:46:04 <nb> are all of the strings different from the last website?
17:46:10 <nb> or will some of them carry over in zanata
17:46:21 <relrod> nb: The vast majority of them, yeah...
17:46:49 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> That shouldn't be a problem, zanata can recommend translations over project, considering accepted translations
17:48:18 <relrod> I think I'd be -1 on blocking the release for websites in any case. In the worst case, we update the old site one more time, and release the new site after GA.
17:48:56 <bexelbie> so it sounds like we need to decide if the new website is blocked on translations
17:49:21 <bexelbie> I don't think we should debate if websites block the release or not in this meeting today
17:49:38 <nb> I am reluctant to block on translations because we then would have to decide *which* translations
17:49:40 <bexelbie> And the website team can suggest if they want us to decide if the design should block if they wish too
17:50:03 <bexelbie> nb we can always say "the ones we already have subject to a refresh timelnie"
17:51:29 <bexelbie> I feel like translations ahve been an important part of our project
17:51:44 <bexelbie> I think blocking the new design on a reasonable translation timeline is acceptable
17:51:57 <bexelbie> how that affects the release is something that other teams may have to work on
17:52:08 <nb> when is the target release date?
17:52:13 <relrod> bexelbie: Which other teams?
17:52:13 <sumantro> as far as I know it doesnt bex
17:52:15 <nb> plus, I think I heard mention we would probably slip
17:52:56 <sumantro> so qa gives a +1 anyway , releng does the same, fesco doesnt block and then it comes to mindshare.. if we -1 then we need to explain why
17:53:22 <bexelbie> sumantro, we are not being asked about the release - just about the website design
17:53:33 <bexelbie> if the release criteria don't include a website, then this doesn't change the release
17:53:43 <bexelbie> if they do then we either block the release or we reuse the existing site layout
17:53:49 <nb> according to the schedule Tue 2019-04-23 is string freeze
17:54:00 <nb> bexelbie, am I mistaken?
17:54:13 * nb confused
17:54:23 <sumantro> nb release might not slip
17:54:23 <bt0_> me too
17:54:25 <bexelbie> nb the strings still aren't pushed to the right place per relrod
17:54:37 <bexelbie> we shouldn't base this decision on a prediction about release slip, imho
17:54:43 <nb> bexelbie, so we are only 1 day late having the strings in the right place?
17:54:44 <bexelbie> taht seems to be a way to avoid answering the question, imho
17:55:00 <bexelbie> nb the string freeze, aiui, presumes there have been regular updates
17:55:04 <bexelbie> this was a surprise to that team
17:55:17 <bexelbie> that seems like a heavy handed interpretation of string freeze
17:55:43 <nb> true
17:55:46 <bexelbie> and it'd be great grounds for them to freeze strings, and by extension dev, months in advance
17:55:57 <bexelbie> I don't think that is a good "pot to stir"
17:56:21 <nb> yeah
17:56:51 <bexelbie> I asked bcotton to join us
17:56:56 <bcotton> .hello2
17:56:57 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
17:56:57 <bexelbie> perhaps he can help us with release blocking
17:57:07 <bexelbie> we are debating the translation issue with the new website design
17:57:10 <relrod> well there were... complications because Ryan and I (who are leading the redesign) weren't quite sure what was going to happen with it after some internal discussion. This wasn't just "we're lazy and we put off having the strings done"
17:57:19 <bexelbie> is the website a release blocking criteria?
17:57:30 <nb> relrod, is there a possibility to update the old website for f30 and then roll out the new website in a few weeks or something?
17:57:31 <bt0_> hi
17:57:41 <relrod> nb: yes I suggested that above.
17:57:42 <nb> relrod, how much work would it be for you to update the existing website
17:57:50 <relrod> nb: completely doable
17:57:55 <bexelbie> relrod, no one is saying you're lazy - but the internal meetings weren't public so the team was unprepared and uninformed through no fault of their own
17:58:06 <relrod> bexelbie: understood
17:58:32 <bexelbie> bcotton, is the website a release blocking criteria?
17:58:43 <bcotton> the website is not a blocker in any formal sense
17:59:10 <nb> I think at this point I would propose delaying the new website by a week or two
17:59:15 * nb not sure timeframe
17:59:17 <bcotton> except that FESCo can say "no-go" if the website or some other piece of infra isn't ready
17:59:30 <relrod> nb: +1, I'm fine with that
17:59:43 <bexelbie> let's make it a proposal
17:59:58 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> nb +1
18:00:02 <bexelbie> #proposed The new website design is blocked for 2 weeks after the strings are pushed to the right place in Zanata.
18:00:03 <bexelbie> ?
18:00:18 <bexelbie> I think we need to lean toward giving as much assist to the translators as we can given how this went down
18:00:21 <nb> +1
18:01:18 <relrod> +1, that's fine
18:01:20 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I'm +1
18:01:23 <bt0_> +1
18:01:26 <sumantro> +1
18:01:35 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> But we need to put a little pressures on translations
18:01:43 <nb> @x3mboy yes, I agree
18:01:52 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> It's a little bit annoying to delay the website for translations
18:02:02 <nb> i.e. let them know that we *will* push the new site 2 wks after the strings are in Zanata
18:02:10 <bcotton> @x3mboy that's why it's a defined time period and not "when translations are ready"
18:02:10 <nb> even if not all of the translations are ready at that point
18:02:16 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Taking this step will be read as: translations are important to us, but move forward
18:02:53 <nb> yeah
18:03:03 <jsmith> +1
18:03:34 <bexelbie> sorry - had to push a gsoc button
18:03:34 <jsmith> Seems like a decent compromise to me
18:03:59 <jsmith> bexelbie: Speaking of which, did you see there's now a Summer of Docs program as well?
18:04:03 <bexelbie> relrod, any vote?
18:04:08 <bt0_> sounds fine for me too
18:04:08 <nb> bexelbie, he already +1
18:04:09 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> #proposal Define how many languages, which of them and how much percentage is acceptable to  website to go live
18:04:10 <bexelbie> jsmith, we have applied :D
18:04:17 <bexelbie> nb, sorry about that - yes :D
18:04:22 <jsmith> bexelbie: Thank you, kind sir :-)
18:04:25 <relrod> bexelbie: I already gave +1 twice ;), but I *would* like some help with getting them in Zanata properly
18:04:25 <nb> @x3mboy I thought we decided we were going to just state the time period
18:04:28 <bexelbie> #approved The new website design is blocked for 2 weeks after the strings are pushed to the right place in Zanata.
18:04:49 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> nb, sure, it's a proposal for the future, not for this particular situation
18:04:54 <nb> @x3mboy oh ok
18:05:05 <bexelbie> relrod, If you need my help connecting with Jean-Baptiste let me know - you are guys overlap only in your AM
18:05:15 <nb> @x3mboy I think that is something we need to make a ticket to discuss further
18:05:20 <nb> and to ask translation team's input
18:05:24 <nb> since it depends on their resources
18:05:26 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Sure
18:05:28 <bexelbie> @x3mboy - this is for this specific redesign
18:05:34 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I agreed
18:05:34 <bexelbie> I hope we won't have problems like this again :)
18:05:38 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Sorry
18:05:55 <bexelbie> any other conversation here?
18:06:07 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> eom
18:07:03 <bexelbie> #topic Next Meeting
18:07:03 <bexelbie> I will be away next week and the week after and unlikely to make this meeting. Can one of you all chair?
18:07:16 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I can
18:07:20 <bexelbie> I am on public holiday (and actually busy) and then at RH summit
18:07:32 <bexelbie> #action x3mboy to run the next two meetings
18:07:34 <bexelbie> :)
18:07:37 <bexelbie> #topic open floor
18:07:39 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Coo
18:07:41 <bexelbie> thank you @x3mboy
18:07:42 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Cool*
18:07:59 * bexelbie updated ticket 122 BTW
18:08:01 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I have a topic
18:08:04 <bexelbie> go for it
18:08:12 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I'm not sure how to address it
18:08:30 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> As bottom has noticed, mktg is mostly inactive
18:08:58 <bexelbie> #topic Marketing status
18:08:59 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> We are basically operating on bottom time and I'm adding some cycles to it
18:09:02 <bexelbie> s/bottom/bcotton/
18:09:18 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Yes, sorry
18:09:25 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> So, I need some help there
18:09:27 <bexelbie> it's autocorrect, not you :)
18:09:39 <bcotton> it's not the worst i've been called :-D
18:09:52 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I think we need to redefine what mktg should do and how we should do it
18:10:06 <bexelbie> do you have a proposal for the new definition?
18:10:22 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Strategies, like podcast and infographics have been paused for months
18:10:30 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> bexelbie sadly, no
18:10:40 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> And that's what worries me
18:10:46 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I'm been thinking through it
18:11:11 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> But tbh I think if doesn't gain some hands, it's going to be just the Mindshare seat
18:11:15 <bexelbie> I suggest that you feel empowered to define a minimum-viable team concept
18:11:24 <bexelbie> and then lets iterate on how to advertise the reboot of marketing
18:11:25 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> And that's not fair to the other teams that have a seat
18:11:35 <bexelbie> but start with a small deliverable set - no ocean boiling
18:11:42 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Sure
18:11:48 <bexelbie> we can deal with the seat after we redefine the team, imho
18:12:05 <bexelbie> based on the web/design conversation we sound amenable to adding more seats or shuffling as needed
18:12:08 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I will create a mktg ticket to have some ideas, and then open a ticket in Mindshare to discusa
18:12:11 <bexelbie> am I reading the room correctly?
18:12:12 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Discuss*
18:12:39 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> +1
18:12:41 <bexelbie> I'd encourage you to propose early and not try to get group-think from a group that is very small
18:12:46 <jsmith> +1
18:13:02 <bexelbie> people are better at editing ideas than creating them
18:13:27 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Got it
18:13:58 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> eom
18:14:02 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I have another topic
18:14:08 <bexelbie> I also volunteer to read your first draft :)
18:14:17 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Sorry, I've been gathering ideas in my idle time
18:14:17 <bexelbie> go for it @x3mboy
18:14:31 <bexelbie> idle hands are the ideas playground (or something like that)
18:14:37 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> How we are going to "sell" the new fedora logo
18:14:43 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> ?
18:14:45 <bexelbie> #topic fedora logo
18:14:56 <bexelbie> the logo is on hold for legal reasons so we dont' ahve a huge rush here
18:15:01 <bexelbie> but what do you mean by "sell"?
18:15:11 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Present to the public
18:15:18 <bt0_> right
18:15:31 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Smash it in their brains until it got recognised as the fedora logo
18:16:05 <bexelbie> we do need to plan a roll out for it
18:16:20 <bexelbie> perhaps this is the rebooted marketing first task? or one of two tasks?
18:16:32 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I was thinking in having a video of Duffy presenting it:
18:16:38 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> What it represents
18:16:42 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Why the change
18:16:47 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> And how is awesome
18:17:08 <bexelbie> sounds like a solid plan
18:17:34 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> And maybe explaining how that blue is different of last MS windows logo's blue
18:17:53 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> (that last one was a joke)
18:18:51 <bt0_> sounds good
18:18:51 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> bexelbie, sure. But I need to know if we have an ultimate logo
18:18:57 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> I mean, final version
18:19:08 <bexelbie> for now this is what we think
18:19:20 <bexelbie> when legal has gotten it all registered, then we will know
18:19:27 <bt0_> the real final version include the (TM) right?
18:19:31 <bexelbie> until we have a registration timeline, i would not work too hard on this, especially in creating assets
18:19:47 <bexelbie> bt0_, aiui, yes - but that is a legal question
18:20:11 <bt0_> ohh, ok
18:20:23 <bexelbie> @x3mboy do you have enough details?  /me feels like the team definition question is bigger than the logo
18:20:43 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> Yes, it works for me
18:22:13 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> eom
18:22:21 <bexelbie> anything else for open floor?
18:22:30 * jsmith has nothing to add
18:22:46 * nb has something
18:23:05 <nb> For SELF we didn't add to the budget money for media.  We gave out about 150 DVDs last year
18:23:07 <bt0_> nothing from me
18:23:17 <nb> I was just  talking to jbwillia earlier today
18:23:27 <nb> we'd like to either get some DVDs, or maybe some blank USBs
18:23:35 <nb> USB would be more popular, but are quite a bit more expensive
18:23:48 <bexelbie> can you open a ticket on the cost?
18:23:59 * bexelbie still is SHOCKED that DVDs are a think in NA
18:24:13 <bexelbie> do you have a federator?
18:24:20 <tg-fedmindshare1> <x​3mboy> LOL
18:24:42 <nb> bexelbie, I think USB would be more of a thing
18:24:47 <nb> bexelbie, yes, but do we know how to update it?
18:24:51 <bcotton> bexelbie: do you know how much we pay for internet here?
18:24:53 <nb> I thought sanqui never documented it
18:25:11 <bexelbie> nb I know others do update them - perhaps you could contact the other ambassadors?
18:25:18 <nb> ok
18:25:39 * nb would love to order a bunch of USB
18:25:46 <nb> we just never have because of cost
18:25:50 * bt0_ too
18:26:13 <nb> bcotton, yeah, i pay like $59/month for 6mbps (theoretically, its usually a lot slower)
18:26:28 <bexelbie> I'd rather not order usb for SELF because of the logo - but we may have some logo keys around
18:26:37 <bexelbie> how about if you price ordering 1000 and lets at least figure out the damage
18:26:40 <nb> bexelbie, We thought about just getting plain ones
18:26:41 <bexelbie> no promises!!!
18:26:57 <bexelbie> I think giving out plain USB keys is literally handing out money for no return
18:26:58 <nb> not as swag, but just for people who want a copy of Fedora (people that talk to us, not just to leave on table)
18:27:04 <nb> true
18:27:23 <nb> bexelbie, So, I heard a mention that we may be stopping using UPS in NA?
18:27:29 <nb> Andrew said something a week or so ago?
18:28:22 <bexelbie> nb if we move to central swag in NA (which I STRONGLY support) we don't need to worry about who the carrier is as the folks in RHT take care of it
18:28:31 <bexelbie> and you can call for a pickup from a show to get the box back if you can't take it directly
18:28:35 <bexelbie> and many shows just arrange this for you
18:28:50 <nb> most shows charge a lot
18:28:52 <nb> I thought
18:28:56 <nb> so we usually took it to UPS
18:29:04 <nb> but central swag doesn't charge us for shipping does it?
18:29:07 <nb> so that'd b nice
18:29:57 <nb> I think IMHO the way we switch to central swag is that we run out of swag that we currently have and then we don't make more in NA but just use the stuff that mindshare makes
18:30:14 <nb> I think we are already diminishing our stock of swag (except i have a lot of the metallic case badges)
18:30:24 <nb> bexelbie, what kind of swag do you have in the central swag place?
18:30:42 <bexelbie> most everything pins, lanyards, stickers, etc.
18:30:47 <bexelbie> would love to get some of those case badges
18:31:00 <nb> I was looking at what we have to take for LFNW and SELF and all I have is some ink pens and stickers and case badges
18:31:09 <nb> bexelbie, pins as in buttons?
18:31:24 <nb> and we have lanyards??? I will file a ticket asking for some for SELF
18:31:27 <bexelbie> also, remember: https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/106
18:31:38 <nb> bexelbie, send me shipping label and I'll send you some case badges
18:31:42 <bexelbie> yes, pe-pens and pi-pins (buttons)
18:31:56 <nb> yeah
18:31:58 <bexelbie> nb please send me email with box count, etc. and I will work it out with you
18:32:06 <bexelbie> swag requests go via a budget ticket
18:32:17 <bexelbie> you can use that to coordinate having swag sent to the depot too
18:32:20 <nb> I think even if NA doesn't really want to switch, we need to just *cough* suggest *cough* that they do
18:32:37 <bexelbie> my hope had been that Andrew and I saw that as the way forward
18:32:40 <nb> after they deplete their current supply
18:32:47 <nb> Maybe that is what Andrew meant
18:33:02 * nb wasn't at the NA meeting I was just reading the logs
18:33:25 * nb is happy to send the event box to central swag, although I wonder how useful it s
18:33:38 <nb> basically it just has a OLPC XO-1 and a old Lenovo laptop and some misc stuff
18:33:44 <bexelbie> I'll need to reverify they can still take it - I last asked them about 8 months ago when this first came up
18:33:46 <bexelbie> I assume they can
18:33:53 <bexelbie> we may just want to get rid of those items ...
18:34:14 <bexelbie> in EMEA and APAC we send swag and they usually already have a tablecloth and banner (or we ship one and have it returend)
18:34:17 <nb> we kinda wanted to get a new laptop, but since RH doesn't purchase laptops anymore they lease them, we never figured out how
18:34:24 <nb> We have a banner that we ship around
18:34:35 <nb> oh yeah, and we have at least 1 tablecloth
18:35:04 <nb> usually we got old laptops from RH
18:35:12 <bexelbie> how about we start a mindshare ticket on what an event kit looks like?
18:35:16 * bexelbie has to drop - I am sorry
18:35:18 <nb> ok
18:35:34 <bexelbie> can someone else end the meeting if there are more items?
18:35:46 <jsmith> I have to drop as well :-(
18:35:47 * nb has nothign else
18:35:51 <bt0_> no
18:36:06 <jsmith> bexelbie: Will do
18:36:13 <bexelbie> thank you all - sorry to run
18:46:20 <jsmith> Anything else?
18:46:25 <jsmith> If not, I'll end the meeting
18:46:30 <jsmith> Going once...
18:46:38 <jsmith> ... going twice ...
18:46:48 <jsmith> ... third time is a charm!
18:46:55 <jsmith> #endmeeting