17:33:13 <jsmith> #startmeeting Mindshare (2018-07-03)
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17:33:15 <jsmith> #meetingname mindshare
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17:33:34 <jsmith> #topic Welcome and init process
17:34:28 <jsmith> .hello2
17:34:29 <zodbot> jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' <jsmith.fedora@gmail.com>
17:34:29 <x3mboy> .hello2
17:34:32 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
17:34:49 <tg-fedmindshare> <n​ebebout> I am here
17:36:50 <tg-fedmindshare> <j​aredsmith> (Apologies, my internet connection keeps dropping out)
17:37:21 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Alberto Rodríguez Fas: bt0dotninja
17:37:22 <tg-fedmindshare> <j​aredsmith> One minute — I'm switching to tether to my phone
17:38:42 <jsmith> #chair jsmith sumantro nb x3mboy bt0_ bexelbie
17:38:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: bexelbie bt0_ jsmith nb sumantro x3mboy
17:38:56 <jsmith> #topic Ticket 144
17:39:00 <jsmith> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/144
17:39:22 <jsmith> I'm +1 for this, especially as they're not asking for budget (as I understand it)
17:39:36 <jsmith> Would still love more detail, but I don't see any reason to deny the request
17:39:48 <x3mboy> Ok, I have a doubt here
17:40:00 <x3mboy> This ticket looks like an informative: I want to do a RP
17:40:06 <x3mboy> It's not asking for anything
17:40:10 <x3mboy> Maybe just permission
17:40:15 <x3mboy> Is that ok?
17:40:34 <tg-fedmindshare> <j​aredsmith> Sure...
17:40:38 <x3mboy> Every RP or event that doesn't need anything budget-wise needs permission?
17:40:47 <tg-fedmindshare> <j​aredsmith> And we'll still likely send our typical sticker pack
17:41:01 <x3mboy> Mmmm
17:41:04 <x3mboy> Ok I get it then
17:41:25 <x3mboy> So, the idea is to send the stickt pack, even when is not asking for it. That's why the ticket makes sense
17:41:43 <tg-fedmindshare> <j​aredsmith> Yeah, I think we try to send sticker packs to all release parties, as I understand it.
17:41:43 <x3mboy> Well, if that's it, I'm -1 until more clarification on the event
17:42:04 <tg-fedmindshare> <j​aredsmith> I'm fine with waiting for more details... Bex already asked for more details a couple of days ago
17:42:34 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Yeah
17:42:46 <jsmith> Proposal: Defer to our next meeting, waiting for more details
17:43:00 <x3mboy> +1
17:43:07 <x3mboy> Also it looks like a past event
17:43:12 <x3mboy> This ticket is really confusing
17:43:13 <jsmith> #agreed Defer decision on ticket #144 until our next meeting.
17:43:17 <x3mboy> We need clarification
17:43:18 <jsmith> x3mboy: Indeed :-)
17:43:29 * nb is on IRC now
17:43:39 <x3mboy> nb o/
17:43:40 <jsmith> Welcome, nb
17:44:00 <jsmith> #topic Ticket 141: Dealing with events that don't get event reports
17:44:03 <jsmith> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/141
17:44:05 <nb> they just want us to approve it so they can get the badge I think
17:44:08 <nb> RE: 144
17:44:49 <x3mboy> Ohhh!!!! That makes a lot of sense!!!
17:44:56 <x3mboy> nb is on fire!
17:45:11 <x3mboy> I think that clarify my doubts
17:45:19 <x3mboy> Going back to 141
17:45:25 <jsmith> #topic back to Ticket 141
17:45:43 <jsmith> OK, everyone OK with awarding the badge, and calling it good?
17:45:51 * jsmith is still +1 for the record
17:46:21 <nb> +1
17:46:31 <x3mboy> +1
17:46:47 <tg-fedmindshare> <j​aredsmith> @bt0dotninja Thoughts?
17:47:06 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> +1
17:47:09 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Too
17:49:46 <jsmith> #agreed Ticket 141: Award the badge and call that good for the event
17:49:54 <jsmith> #topic Ticket 141: Dealing with events that don't get event reports
17:50:06 <jsmith> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/141
17:50:47 <nb> I'm thinking this proposal sounds pretty good
17:51:09 <jsmith> Which one... there are several in the comments of the ticket
17:51:25 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Yeah, need some reviews before be published
17:51:40 <nb> bex's proposal
17:52:17 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> That need some patches
17:52:31 <jsmith> Indeed... I don't think it's perfect, but I'd like to keep pushing it forward.
17:54:06 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> It's ok, maybe we can discuss the details of some points
17:54:20 <jsmith> That's why I have it on the agenda :-)
17:54:30 <jsmith> Personally, I'm fine with the 30-day bullets
17:55:21 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Me too
17:55:36 <jsmith> For part 2, I think 3 events in two years is more reasonable...
17:56:20 <nb> jsmith, i'm ok with that
17:56:29 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> With 2(c) too
17:56:35 <jsmith> We need something firm, but not impossible to climb back out of
17:57:51 <jsmith> Any other discussion?
17:57:54 <jsmith> Thoughts?
17:58:00 <jsmith> Someone want to volunteer to summarize?
17:58:14 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> But by example
17:59:28 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> One ambassador alone is challenging to be a helper in another event if not have another ambassadors active in their city/country
17:59:43 <jsmith> Agreed...
18:00:27 <jsmith> Maybe we add some language around "... or otherwise show the Mindshare committee that they are actively involved in Fedora SIGs or other online events"
18:00:42 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Sounds better
18:00:44 <jsmith> Thoughts?  Concerns?  Complaints?
18:00:51 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> +1
18:03:13 <jsmith> nb? @x3mboy?
18:03:22 <nb> well
18:03:51 <nb> jsmith, but what if I am involved in Fedora SIGs, don't do a event report, and then say "hey, but the policy says am involved in Fedora SIGs, I want funding again"
18:04:15 <nb> maybe we need a mandatory timeout, even if someone is involved in other areas of the project"
18:04:29 <nb> i.e. you don't do an event report for 120 days, you can't get funding for 1yr
18:04:31 <nb> or something
18:04:34 <jsmith> That's fair...
18:04:56 <jsmith> I thought that was 14 months, at least based on the ticket...
18:05:00 <nb> oh yeah, i forgot
18:05:10 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> I think 2(d) will be moved to the 120 days policy
18:05:11 <nb> so I guess my concern is already covered
18:06:33 <jsmith> OK, here's what I'm going to propose.
18:07:00 <jsmith> I propose that somebody volunteer to write up the bullets (like done originally in the ticket), but adjusting for the things we've talking about in the comments and in this meeting.
18:07:12 <jsmith> And that we have that updated in the ticket by Tuesday of next week.
18:07:34 <jsmith> Then we vote on it next Wednesday... when we have all the details in one spot in front of us.
18:09:08 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> I will do it
18:09:14 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Action me please
18:09:17 <jsmith> Fantastic, thanks!
18:09:34 <jsmith> #action bt0_ to write up the details on the ticket, so we can vote next week.
18:09:45 <jsmith> #agreed Ticket 141 -- we'll vote next week
18:10:27 <jsmith> #topic Ticket #139 Add contributors to @fedoracommunity Twitter account for Flock 2019
18:10:37 <jsmith> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/139
18:14:13 <jsmith> I'm +1 to the idea, but not sure about the logistics...
18:16:59 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Right
18:18:52 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> We need look for already active contributors tagn are also active Twitter users
18:19:02 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> How?
18:19:37 <jsmith> There's also a Fedora Community Folks group in Facebook -- might be a decent place to start.
18:20:39 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Ok, we need to define the bases, right?
18:21:22 <jsmith> Yes
18:22:36 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Ok, ideas?
18:24:01 <jsmith> Proposal: Keep discussion moving in the ticket, and make a final decision next week.
18:24:52 <jsmith> (We're almost at one hour, and I have to run to another meeting soon)
18:25:06 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Ok
18:25:06 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Agree
18:27:26 <jsmith> #agreed for ticket 139, we'll keep the discussion moving in the ticket and vote next week
18:27:35 <jsmith> #topic Open Floor
18:27:48 <jsmith> I wanted to cover ticket 145 as well, but I think it needs further discussion in the ticket and we're out of time
18:28:00 <jsmith> Can I please get a committment from folks to keep the discussion moving there as well?
18:28:05 <jsmith> I promise I will too!
18:30:05 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> from me , yeah
18:30:29 <nb> sorry, i got busy
18:38:07 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> close?
18:38:17 <jsmith> Going once...
18:38:21 <jsmith> ... going twice...
18:38:31 <jsmith> #endmeeting