17:32:57 #startmeeting Mindshare 17:32:57 Meeting started Wed Feb 12 17:32:57 2020 UTC. 17:32:57 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:32:57 The chair is riecatnor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:32:57 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:32:57 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 17:34:31 #meetingname Mindshare Committee 17:34:31 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare_committee' 17:34:57 first lets look at tickets, one sec 17:35:19 https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/182 17:36:05 seems fine to me, I will give a +1 and direct them to fedora-budget 17:36:15 already voted :) 17:36:44 I just voted 17:37:11 Thanks :) 17:37:23 https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/181 17:37:38 so this one is a bit deeper. let's pause and go to some of the others 17:38:28 https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/180 17:38:33 this just needed triage. 17:39:20 https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/169 17:39:49 the newest request seems fine unless anyone objects 17:40:07 it is fine for me 17:40:39 my one concern is keeping the logo as it should be 17:40:49 It might need to go through the design track 17:42:10 ok, good point 17:45:21 great response :) 17:45:24 ok I think that is it for new tickets.. we can go back to 181 if everyone is up to it 17:45:33 ok 17:46:57 ok 17:46:57 @hhlp I am reading your comment and looking into this script you are linkin 17:47:54 linging* 17:47:57 linking** lol 17:48:10 ok. :) , we need to name it in one formal way -> Policy for no-response member 17:48:21 My question is will this script be easily adaptable to all FAS groups? 17:48:27 If so, I am all for it 17:48:28 will be 17:48:30 :) 17:48:36 And I want to see metrics on more than just mindshare ;) 17:48:55 I'm working on it 17:49:44 I thank you! and everyone else who is giving input.. there is a lot of value in this 17:50:47 I think it will be interesting to see the outcome. Also it makes me wonder if it will be more or less applicable to some teams 17:51:41 the idea is get general stats for all kind of teams and handle some special cases too 17:52:16 Yes, it can highlight those cases so we can look into the health of the teams. It's great. I think this is adaptable to the Mindshare team situation. 17:52:42 We still need to come up with a guideline for what amount of activity seems reasonable 17:52:58 For example, what percentage of meetings do we feel people should be able to attend? 17:53:11 good metric 17:53:18 * bt0 is taking notes 17:53:21 +1 on the Metric 17:53:24 Thank you bt0 17:53:40 Kindly share afterwards :bt0 17:53:41 Beyond coming to meetings, how many tickets are they commenting on 17:54:25 Besides those two places, what other kinds of things can we track with this script 17:54:52 and to be in attendance at a meeting I think we have to do a more formal roll call at the beginning which is ok by me :) 17:55:03 or can you just do, "who talks during a meeting" 17:55:59 zodbot can help me with that 17:57:12 are there other things we could track with this script for the mindshare team? 17:58:54 hhlp, yes agreed on a formal policy 17:59:50 I also think part of the policy should just be to reach out to the person individually.. understand what is going on 18:00:01 I think is fine 18:00:24 altought all people help in mindhsare team would be in _FAS_ Group to keep tracked 18:01:33 that is right 18:01:50 hhlp is not in the group 18:02:13 oh hmm we can fix that 18:03:48 should be all set 18:04:50 cool 18:05:05 ok, so we've agreed that the script is a good way to measure this. 18:05:15 +1 18:05:25 What do we feel is an acceptable amount of meetings to be in attendance 18:05:36 75%? 18:05:53 I realize this is not peoples day job tho. Maybe 50% is more reasonable 18:05:57 sounds a good number but we need to set a timeframe 18:06:35 I would say, we take the last year to start and it will give us a good indication. Problem is I don't believe mindshare meetings were being tracked? 18:06:57 I think if that is the case, we take from the start date, and evaluate after 3 months. 18:07:36 good 18:08:53 Seems good to me as well :) 18:09:17 bt0 please update us when things progress.. thank you again! 18:09:32 :) 18:09:50 I believe last time we were talking about ambassadors? 18:09:56 is nb around? 18:11:22 ping nb 18:12:02 this is a nice script to clean up any _FAS_ Group for example ambassador 18:14:06 hhlp, good point 18:14:34 I think the ambassador program and situation is more complex than those metrics at this point though. 18:15:14 I believe thoughtful consideration needs to go into re-crafting ambassadors/advocates/outreach.. I think the council should be a part of that kind of restructuring as well. 18:15:58 It might be useful to make some kind of document that gives a summary of all 3 of those initiatives/groups. 18:15:59 i do that work back in the Flock 18:16:12 bt0, please share! 18:16:18 i can runn the old script and get the active members 18:16:48 at least they can know how many incative user they have 18:17:31 I agree, it will most likely provide some value. The point I am trying to make is that because things were restructured to an extent already, I am not sure how much activity there will be to measure. 18:17:59 For example things the ambassador group used to vote on became mindshare's responsibilities, if I understand that correctly. 18:18:09 uhmm. ok 18:18:59 yes...https://plot.ly/~hotgalan/25/fedora-ambassadors-by-country/#/ 18:19:48 cool! 18:20:14 https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/203 18:20:28 has a taticaresquest.ods 18:20:52 wait Ambys2.ods 18:22:26 bt0, can you clarify? 18:24:00 i mean a file with the raw data showing number of activities in certain timeframes 18:24:28 the name of that file is Ambys2.ods and it's attached to that ticket 18:25:29 got it :P 18:26:11 I can reproduce this same updated output 18:26:40 I think that is a good idea. We can take a look at how things stand currently 18:26:41 in a few hours, tha script is in my home computer 18:26:52 ok, great! 18:27:19 It seems we are almost out of time.. I think we made some good progress :) 18:28:02 ok good, I think the TOTAL is a value but not a good Metric, ACTIVE MEMBER is it 18:28:46 yep, 18:29:51 I can apply for ambasador then forge it and take part of the TOTAL but I don't produce any value 18:31:08 the it is the total, i have some active sisnce jan 1, 2019 18:31:17 *since 18:31:33 :) 18:31:45 Thanks bt0 and hhlp ! 18:31:52 #endmeeting