17:34:19 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Mindshare Committee
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17:34:31 <riecatnor> Hello again peeps!
17:34:47 <riecatnor> whose here today for the meeting?
17:34:53 <nasirhm> Hey everyone (again)
17:35:16 <hhlp> me here... good afternoon
17:35:21 <bt0> me
17:35:35 <bt0> ./fasinfo bt0dotninja
17:35:44 <bt0> .fasinfo bt0dotninja
17:35:45 <zodbot> bt0: User: bt0dotninja, Name: Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez, email: hotgalan@gmail.com, Creation: 2016-07-25, IRC Nick: bt0, Timezone: America/Mexico_City, Locale: en, GPG key ID: E74B5808, Status: active
17:35:48 <bt0> :)
17:35:48 <zodbot> bt0: Approved Groups: neuro-sig fedorabugs packager +advocates @commops +summer-coding +ask-fedora mindshare +fedora-join @fedora-mx ambassadors dotnet-team marketing cla_done cla_fpca
17:36:22 <riecatnor> I am curious
17:36:31 <riecatnor> .fasinfo riecatnor
17:36:32 <zodbot> riecatnor: User: riecatnor, Name: None, email: mnordin@redhat.com, Creation: 2013-10-18, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
17:36:36 <zodbot> riecatnor: Approved Groups: sysadmin-badges sysadmin ask-fedora wikiedit @summer-coding @fedora-socialmedia @marketing gitfossrit @diversity-team @community-blog @commops @mindshare @council +designteam gitbadges cla_fpca cla_done
17:37:06 <riecatnor> Looks like I need to fill in some info :)
17:37:08 <nasirhm> hmm, .fasinfo nasirhm
17:37:14 <bt0> yes
17:37:19 <riecatnor> might have to put it on it's own nasirhm
17:37:33 <nasirhm> ah, now i get it
17:37:36 <nasirhm> .fasinfo nasirhm
17:37:37 <zodbot> nasirhm: User: nasirhm, Name: Nasir Hussain, email: nasirhussainm14@gmail.com, Creation: 2019-11-25, IRC Nick: nasirhm, Timezone: Asia/Karachi, Locale: en, GPG key ID: D8126E559CE7C35D, Status: active
17:37:41 <zodbot> nasirhm: Approved Groups: fedorabugs qa google-codein advocates fedora-join cla_done cla_fpca
17:37:53 <riecatnor> #topic open tickets
17:37:59 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/207
17:38:38 <riecatnor> If all are ok, I will +1 this as well and we can close the ticket
17:39:30 <bt0> sure
17:40:13 <nasirhm> questions looks good to me :+1:
17:40:36 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/201
17:40:49 <riecatnor> Some movement here, but I do not think we need to do anything
17:41:19 <nasirhm> sumantro took care of it :)
17:41:34 <hhlp> yeah, @sumantrom documented very well the procedure
17:41:42 <riecatnor> It will be awesome to see Fedora doing GSoC GCI and GSoD
17:41:51 <bt0> yeah
17:42:15 <riecatnor> thanks to sumantrom and also siddharthvipul for their work on internships
17:42:24 <bt0> :)
17:42:27 <riecatnor> sumantrom++
17:42:27 <zodbot> riecatnor: Karma for sumantrom changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:42:32 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul++
17:42:32 <zodbot> riecatnor: Karma for siddharthvipul1 changed to 9 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:42:35 <nasirhm> Thanks to Fedora's participation in GCI, I came across Fedora
17:42:47 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, so many cookies already!
17:43:02 <nasirhm> Thank you Vipul & sumantro for your awesome job for Internships :)
17:43:27 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/197
17:44:14 <siddharthvipul> ah, it took a while to understand internship == GSoC haha
17:44:16 <nasirhm> this one's interesting
17:44:48 <bt0> sumantrom++ siddharthvipul++
17:44:48 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for sumantrom changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:44:51 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for siddharthvipul1 changed to 10 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:44:55 <bt0> :)
17:45:07 <riecatnor> We reviewed this a couple weeks ago, it would be good for more Mindshare committee folks to comment here
17:45:09 <tg-fedmindshare> <x​3mboy> Are we on meeting?
17:45:14 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> yes
17:45:17 <tg-fedmindshare> <x​3mboy> Sorry
17:45:21 <riecatnor> yep x3mboy! glad you could make it :)
17:45:22 <tg-fedmindshare> <x​3mboy> Let me move to IRC
17:46:23 <x3mboy> I'm here now
17:46:28 <jwf> sumantrom++ siddharthvipul++
17:46:28 <zodbot> jwf: Karma for sumantrom changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:47:07 <nasirhm> sumantrom++ siddharthvipul++
17:47:07 <bt0> ok 197, this is important
17:47:09 <zodbot> nasirhm: Karma for sumantrom changed to 4 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:48:07 <siddharthvipul> Thank you all, I must say it was sumantro doing heavy work and I was just clicking buttons to accept and all. sumantrom++
17:48:09 <zodbot> siddharthvipul: Karma for sumantrom changed to 5 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:48:22 <riecatnor> ah, now sumantrom has plenty of cookies, good :D
17:48:31 <riecatnor> For 197, yes, I agree this is important
17:48:43 <nasirhm> yep 192 is important
17:48:48 <x3mboy> sumantrom++
17:48:48 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for sumantrom changed to 6 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:48:51 <nasirhm> 197*
17:48:52 <bt0> I'm +1 to an simplified process as riecatnor says in the last comment
17:48:53 <x3mboy> siddharthvipul++
17:48:56 <x3mboy> nasirhm
17:49:00 <x3mboy> riecatnor++
17:49:03 <x3mboy> nasirhm++
17:49:08 <x3mboy> jwf++
17:49:19 <riecatnor> x3mboy, throwing cookies around like confetti
17:49:23 <x3mboy> bt0++
17:49:28 <riecatnor> always bringing the party :p
17:49:33 <x3mboy> Yeah!!!
17:50:00 <jwf> riecatnor: Your last ticket comment makes sense to me
17:50:23 <riecatnor> x3mboy, hhlp, jwf, siddharthvipul, bt0 - could you all comment on the ticket so we can get some more opinions all in one place
17:50:42 <riecatnor> well, siddharthvipul & jwf & nasirhm not necessary but I would love you to :)
17:50:49 <jwf> I understand bcotton and @amisha3's perspective on not wanting a process. But I think everything has a process, it is just whether you document it or not
17:50:58 <jwf> Sure. Will weigh in on the ticket
17:51:02 <riecatnor> Agreed, jwf
17:51:11 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: that's what I was wondering.. I am all ready to paste my opinion if it's needed :P
17:51:20 <riecatnor> Please do so!
17:51:37 <riecatnor> nasirhm, you too, sorry I missed you the first time
17:52:06 <nasirhm> riecatnor: sure, +1 to your last comment. :)
17:53:13 <riecatnor> I like the idea of formalizing a structure around change. It makes my life easier and harder, but mostly easier, because the community will have agreed upon what they want. This makes delivering that a lot easier
17:54:06 <nasirhm> x3mboy: I don't know why, but i didn't got the cookie.
17:54:26 <riecatnor> bt0 have you had a chance to work on the advocates tickets there?
17:54:35 <bt0> have a clear (and simple) process is important, will reduce "bad fillings" in the community
17:54:48 <riecatnor> yes, agreed bt0
17:54:53 <nasirhm> riecatnor: hmm, makes sense having a process defined can make sure we have the community agreed.
17:55:13 <x3mboy> I will read the ticket
17:55:20 <bt0> yes, I have the list of non ambassadors doing events, i will update the group today
17:55:33 <x3mboy> But I will comment tonigh or tomorrow
17:55:51 <x3mboy> Sorry, but it's my 36 hour straight
17:56:02 <nasirhm> bt0: let me know if i can help with that :)
17:56:18 <riecatnor> x3mboy, ok, no worries
17:56:33 <riecatnor> bt0, great!
17:56:45 <riecatnor> So should we circle back around on that next week?
17:57:54 <bt0> yes
17:58:22 <riecatnor> ok sounds good
17:58:44 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/184
17:58:59 <riecatnor> I have an update for this one, the stickers are printed, and received at our swag location
17:59:02 <nasirhm> sounds good :)
17:59:16 <riecatnor> I asked if we can make shipments, and they replied not currently
17:59:54 <riecatnor> Once they get back up and running, we can send some out to a couple folks. I will comment, but leave it open
17:59:57 <nasirhm> I guess it's due to COVID-19
18:00:16 <riecatnor> mm, they are only do necessary shipments.. I guess our stickers needs don't fit that :P
18:00:21 <riecatnor> doing*
18:00:37 <bt0> let me talk with them , i'm in  neuro fedora too
18:01:24 <nasirhm> Hmm, Best of luck with it.
18:02:11 <riecatnor> bt0, not quite how it works unfortunately :/ the offices are closed at red hat
18:02:28 <riecatnor> the entire company is work from home
18:03:09 <riecatnor> so it will be once the offices reopen that we can get the stickers. I think most people are on stay in place and won't need these for events anyways?
18:03:19 <nasirhm> hmm, makes sense, Due to lockdowns caused by COVID-19 almost everyone's working from home
18:04:04 <nasirhm> Yep, As we're not having any in-person event any time soon, I guess it's ok let it open for now.
18:04:20 <riecatnor> I think we did good on tickets for today.. I have a topic I would like to bring if everyone is ready
18:04:36 <nasirhm> Sure
18:04:57 <bt0> sure
18:05:34 <riecatnor> #topic Nest to Fedora
18:05:39 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/flock/issue/226
18:05:39 <jwf> Left some feedback here: https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/197#comment-650797
18:05:52 <tg-fedmindshare> <s​umantro93> I was wondering when this would come up!
18:06:01 <riecatnor> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-call-for-ideas/
18:06:05 <riecatnor> thanks jwf!!
18:06:06 <nasirhm> .thank jwf
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18:07:05 <nasirhm> Excited for my first e-flock with fedora
18:08:20 <riecatnor> nasirhm, hehe me too! I think this could be really cool
18:09:43 <riecatnor> So I would like folks to read over the blog post, and the ticket
18:10:09 <nasirhm> riecatnor: I love the ideas of sessions you shared about, especially the Laptop stickers one :D
18:10:37 <jwf> BTW, if anyone can update the Pagure issue template for Flock in this Etherpad, I can help update it in Pagure: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/pagure-io-flock-issue-template
18:10:50 <jwf> Since it is sort of a pain to do and requires git in the command line for the issues repository
18:11:14 <jwf> Just ping me if there is a draft I can swap out for the ticket template…
18:11:51 <jwf> The 2019 template is in the Etherpad now
18:12:03 <riecatnor> jwf, yes I was thinking about doing this. I think before we can update it, we should establish some semblance of how we want to organize it
18:12:23 <riecatnor> I have a couple ideas I will throw out there we can discuss. These are not definite by any means
18:12:32 <nasirhm> +1
18:12:34 <tg-fedmindshare> <x​3mboy> Sorry, I'm also in the Fedora AMA  on Telegram
18:13:19 <riecatnor> Have 4-5 tracks. a couple 1 hour sessions a day, for a week. everything else happens asynchronously.
18:13:36 <bt0> sounds great
18:14:36 <nasirhm> riecatnor++
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18:15:35 <jwf> I can open a ticket about the issue template so we can keep track of it outside of the meeting
18:15:44 <jwf> I know there is a lot going on right now, almost forgot about AMA :)
18:16:22 <riecatnor> I was thinking to put the sessions around 10am est - 2pm utc - 7:30pm ist.. and one in the evening at like 7-8
18:17:39 <nasirhm> It's PKT friendly too.
18:17:43 <riecatnor> 7pm est
18:17:52 <riecatnor> i know the later time isn't as friendly to apac
18:18:02 <riecatnor> we've already had folks asking for things in the evening est
18:18:12 <nasirhm> Yep, It's 7PM in PKT :)
18:18:27 <bt0> sounds like a good schedule for many tz
18:18:32 <nasirhm> It's gets pretty late in APAC timezones
18:20:17 <riecatnor> I think one of the tracks should be something like mini hackfests -- and these can happen with the people who need to be there, and they can schedule it and do it on their own. The idea behind that is we collect some data about what they accomplished and compile it together to tell a story about what we achieved during the week
18:20:37 <bt0> our principal groups of contributors are in USA, India and Europe
18:21:17 <riecatnor> bt0 I would concur
18:21:23 <nasirhm> riecatnor: Sounds like a awesome idea, We can have a Fedora Badges design hackfest there too ?
18:21:38 <riecatnor> nasirhm, yes! I would love to do that
18:21:54 <riecatnor> Like "we pushed 20 new badges during nest with fedora"
18:22:28 <nasirhm> riecatnor: How about have a Session on Team reviews with Active SiGs ?
18:22:28 <bt0> let me update the stats and maybe with some data we can take our best option for the schedule
18:23:16 <nasirhm> riecatnor: P.S: I'm up for the Cake with FCAIC session, Wondering if we can make it more fun with some e-cake fun thingy?
18:24:29 <riecatnor> nasirhm, can you clarify what you mean by team reviews?
18:24:42 <riecatnor> ok bt0, great!
18:25:07 <riecatnor> nasirhm, well, I think you mean the badge that already exists for cake with the fcaic? :P
18:25:19 <siddharthvipul> nasirhm: you said it's 7pm pkt, isn't it 11:25 pm right now?
18:25:42 <siddharthvipul> in pakistan I meant :P unless I have got pkt wrong
18:26:01 <nasirhm> riecatnor: it's just an idea, Where people from active SiG's can share thier progress.
18:26:39 <nasirhm> siddharthvipul: I meant, If it would be 7:30 PM IST, It would be 7PM in Pakistan, Indeed it's 23:26 here in Pakistan :P
18:27:14 <siddharthvipul> ah
18:27:15 <riecatnor> nasirhm, I think that would be something easily done asynchronously or done with their team and recorded! I like it
18:27:16 <siddharthvipul> yes
18:27:41 <nasirhm> riecatnor: Yeah, I meant the badge "It's a Cake thing" or may be we can create a new badge with pasting the cake on a Computer screen and naming it as It's an E-cake thing at Nest?
18:27:43 <riecatnor> so, we are running short on time.. but I think the other major piece is the platform
18:28:10 <riecatnor> The format and the platform will inform the revised CfP
18:28:13 <nasirhm> riecatnor: Thanks :)
18:28:49 <bt0> ok
18:28:57 <nasirhm> Here are some of the Platforms i was able to search for : https://pagure.io/flock/issue/226#comment-649961
18:29:33 <riecatnor> I think I need to compile a document
18:29:47 <nasirhm> We would have to use a platform that's convenient and user-friendly. I can help with the Document :)
18:30:28 <riecatnor> I have received some emails with suggestions from folks, and I have other resources at RH's Open Source Program Office
18:31:17 <nasirhm> Hmm, Sounds cool, Maybe we can compile a list and map it with appropriate sessions and share it with folks who can provide suggestions ?
18:31:42 <riecatnor> I think I will be the one to make a draft, and then I will put it somewhere for folks to hack on
18:31:48 <riecatnor> or comment.
18:32:07 <tg-fedmindshare> <b​t0dotninja> Cool
18:32:39 <riecatnor> I put that on my to do list :D
18:32:40 <jwf> I opened some issues on the fly from this meeting discussion: https://pagure.io/flock/issues
18:33:33 <nasirhm> riecatnor: Best of luck with it, Looking forward to it :)
18:33:35 <bt0> thanks jwf++
18:33:46 <riecatnor> thanks jwf! I have some things to add already :D
18:33:46 <nasirhm> .thank jwf
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18:34:03 <riecatnor> alright peeps.
18:34:06 <riecatnor> anything else?
18:35:18 <nasirhm> I think we're good to close this meeting, Have a good day everyone
18:35:55 <bt0> +1 to close
18:36:12 <riecatnor> thanks to everyone who came, great participation today!
18:36:17 <riecatnor> #endmeeting