17:30:24 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Mindshare
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17:30:24 <riecatnor> #meetingname Mindshare
17:30:24 <riecatnor> #chair bt0dotninja codeblock hhlp nb pbokoc riecatnor sumantrom x3mboy
17:30:24 <riecatnor> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-mindshare
17:30:24 <riecatnor> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
17:30:24 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare'
17:30:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0dotninja codeblock hhlp nb pbokoc riecatnor sumantrom x3mboy
17:30:25 <riecatnor> #topic Hello
17:30:31 <pbokoc> .hello2
17:30:32 <zodbot> pbokoc: pbokoc 'None' <pbokoc@redhat.com>
17:30:36 <riecatnor> .hello2
17:30:37 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'None' <mnordin@redhat.com>
17:30:52 <bt0> .hello bt0dotninja
17:30:53 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
17:31:33 <riecatnor> I updated the chairs too for next time :)
17:31:39 <riecatnor> #chair tatica
17:31:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0dotninja codeblock hhlp nb pbokoc riecatnor sumantrom tatica x3mboy
17:31:59 <riecatnor> How is everyone today?
17:32:09 <siddharthvipul> .fasinfo siddharthvipul
17:32:10 <zodbot> siddharthvipul: User: siddharthvipul, Name: Vipul Siddharth, email: siddharthsurfing1@gmail.com, Creation: 2019-06-12, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
17:32:11 <bt0> Fine thanks :)
17:32:14 <zodbot> siddharthvipul: Approved Groups: None
17:32:15 <siddharthvipul> ugh, wrong id
17:32:23 <siddharthvipul> .hello siddharthvipul1
17:32:24 <zodbot> siddharthvipul: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
17:32:31 <siddharthvipul> lol, why did I do fasinfo :p
17:32:45 <riecatnor> ;)
17:32:55 <siddharthvipul> sorry for the spam y'all
17:33:07 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: I am great, how have you been?
17:33:46 <riecatnor> Oh, hanging in best I can :D today is quite nice with a blue sky and clouds
17:34:10 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: pretty good weather here as well. it's nice and not so hot
17:34:23 <riecatnor> 22 C (70 F) here today
17:34:25 <pbokoc> it's been raining like mad for half a day, again
17:34:35 <pbokoc> pretty nice now though
17:34:38 <riecatnor> Ooo, pbokoc, I kinda like those days too :)
17:34:46 <siddharthvipul> here it's both haha
17:34:55 <siddharthvipul> it's been raining and that's why it's 22*c XD
17:34:57 <pbokoc> riecatnor, I liked it too when this weather started about 3 weeks ago, I'm getting a bit sick of it now :)
17:34:58 <bt0> awesome weather :)
17:35:32 <riecatnor> oof. Yeah, I get that bc I live in Rochester NY haha. Our winters are criminally long and marked by day after day of grey skies >.<
17:35:49 <riecatnor> Nice, siddharthvipul :)
17:35:55 <riecatnor> ok folks, let's look at some
17:35:59 <riecatnor> #topic tickets
17:36:20 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/221
17:37:14 <siddharthvipul> I liked everything that sumantro put together.. nominated people, have you read them? @x3mboy, @tatica
17:37:30 <riecatnor> seems we have a consensus for Mindshare rep to Council of x3mboy
17:37:50 <siddharthvipul> ]well, some of the task will definitely be shared since Sumantro was doing some extra (like GSoC)
17:37:51 <bt0> yeah, maybe we need document how we choice a our council rep :)
17:38:13 <siddharthvipul> and we need to rotate the seat probably every 2 releases
17:39:49 <riecatnor> #agreed we need to document how we choose mindshare council rep
17:40:14 <bt0> cool
17:40:16 <riecatnor> I am fine with a consensus in a ticket, like we did this time. Does anyone see that as problematic
17:40:29 <bt0> not from me
17:40:50 <siddharthvipul> no worries here as well
17:41:16 <riecatnor> Ok, where do we need to document this? On Mindshare docs page?
17:41:55 <bt0> sure
17:41:57 <siddharthvipul> or a separate page linked with mindshare docs page on how we elect members
17:42:05 <siddharthvipul> we can have it for all seats? (elected seats)
17:42:15 <siddharthvipul> just one page for all of them in there I mean
17:42:23 <bt0> sounds better
17:43:53 <bt0> We need open a new ticket for that
17:43:57 <riecatnor> Ok, I think we can close this ticket as complete with x3mboy being the new rep
17:44:03 <bt0> +1
17:44:06 <riecatnor> Maybe open a new one with the task of documenting election processes
17:44:09 <riecatnor> ?
17:44:16 <riecatnor> Any volunteers :D
17:44:23 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: yeah, that would be good.. what do you think about seat rotation?
17:44:35 <siddharthvipul> maybe other mindshare members want to take that role and learn?
17:44:36 <riecatnor> I am +1 to seat rotation.
17:44:42 <siddharthvipul> awesome
17:44:51 <bt0> me
17:44:56 <siddharthvipul> anyone is not +1 to the seat rotation? asking just in case ;)
17:45:14 <siddharthvipul> bt0: thanks a lot, let me know of you need help. would love to help
17:45:15 <bt0> im +1
17:45:33 <bt0> sure vipul ;)
17:46:17 <riecatnor> thanks, bt0 !
17:46:37 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/220
17:47:17 <riecatnor> So this is the outreachy intern I am mentoring :D
17:47:19 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: does some stats around GSoC, GCI and outreachy also counts? since it's a part of mindshare officially
17:47:29 <riecatnor> sure!
17:47:46 <riecatnor> I have her working on an initiative to increase recognition and visibility of what the Mindshare teams are doing
17:47:47 <siddharthvipul> cool, I will try to put something together this weekend
17:48:03 <riecatnor> So, you have most likely seen her gathering info on the team levels
17:48:18 <riecatnor> It would be cool to use this as a visibility piece for what Mindshare is?
17:48:21 <bt0> we have the list of Mindshare events too
17:48:36 <riecatnor> Number of swag requests fulfilled?
17:48:59 <bt0> sure
17:49:30 <bt0> and many event reports with good photos
17:50:02 <riecatnor> ok, I am grabbing the ideas to add to the ticket :)
17:50:40 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, I think it might be nice to created a separate infographic just for mentored projects
17:50:47 * siddharthvipul is hoping once all the team start getting back with metrics, the intern is not overwhelmed with work
17:51:03 <riecatnor> There is enough data there. I think we could put a general stat on the Mindshare Committee infographic too
17:51:19 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, nah, she is great, taking it all in stride :)
17:52:08 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: that sounds good.. I in particular don't have a lot of ideas (will have to discuss with former org-admins)
17:52:35 <riecatnor> well, number of projects worked on. number of interns. number of countries interns are coming from.
17:52:46 <riecatnor> different types of code they are using
17:53:14 <riecatnor> how many are still active? (tho maybe we don't want to know this lol)
17:53:14 <siddharthvipul> I will think how we can gather those
17:53:26 <bt0> :)
17:53:31 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: yeah, let's skip the last part.. I don't want to be deprssed
17:53:34 <riecatnor> Just ideas!
17:53:51 <bt0> nasirhm comes from GCI and is a rockstar now
17:54:01 <riecatnor> its true :D
17:54:18 <riecatnor> so quickly, while I have you all here, I will poke you individually hehe
17:54:35 <riecatnor> pbokoc: https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/docs-fp-o/issue/136
17:54:52 <riecatnor> bt0: https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/298
17:55:24 <riecatnor> bt0: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/214
17:55:55 <pbokoc> yeah I've been thinking about this. In docs we have a big achievement in getting l10n support up and running; other than that I could pull up some stats for PRs merged, issues resolved, release notes written, that kinda stuff.
17:55:56 <riecatnor> I was going to ask tatica to reply on https://pagure.io/design/issue/681 https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/134
17:56:01 <bt0> :P yeah I will share the update from our metrics scripts and bcotton already get the commblog stats
17:56:11 <riecatnor> pbokoc, those stats seem great!
17:56:21 <bt0> I will take the marketing ticket too
17:56:50 <riecatnor> and assigning to myself https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/751
17:57:42 <riecatnor> awesome, everyone :D I instructed the intern to work on things she has info for first so almost better to get the ones partially done complete
17:58:12 <bt0> cool
17:58:36 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/217
17:59:01 <riecatnor> Ok, so I think we can say, we might have missed the boat on this for F32? No ones fault, we all have a lot going on
17:59:12 <riecatnor> But, would it be great to get it more organized for F33
17:59:16 <riecatnor> it would be*
17:59:45 <bt0> yeah :(, It's a great idea
17:59:48 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: we can still organize it (I have seen late release parties) but yeah, you might be right
17:59:50 <riecatnor> Thoughts on redirecting the ticket to plan for F33 ?
18:00:17 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, I am not against it, I just don't have the cycles to push that now. About to get into the grind for Nest with Flock
18:00:22 <riecatnor> Nest with Fedora** lol
18:00:31 <bt0> not from me
18:00:39 <bt0> :P
18:00:57 <siddharthvipul> yeah, I guess it's okay to skip this release
18:01:13 <pbokoc> +1 for skipping to 33
18:02:10 <bt0> +1
18:02:23 <riecatnor> I am going to comment that on the ticket.. can someone else put the F33 schedule there so we know what dates we are working with?
18:03:31 <pbokoc> here, put it in your comment :) https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-key-tasks.html
18:04:24 <riecatnor> added!
18:04:50 <riecatnor> so it looks like mid to late October
18:05:31 <riecatnor> I also wonder if we will have some folks asking to do in person at that time... guess we will have to see how things go with covid
18:06:18 <pbokoc> yeah, that's going to be ruining everyone's plans for a while more I suspect
18:06:21 <riecatnor> anything else on that one for now?
18:07:14 <riecatnor> ok
18:07:15 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/218
18:07:50 <nb> had to run to bank during lunch, sorry
18:08:25 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: what would be the next step for this?
18:08:38 <riecatnor> I want to share with the team that I am behind on the progress for this. I have to admit that fully. The reason I will also share, and the same reason I wasn't at the meeting last week. I have been dealing with a lot of CoC reports over the last four months, and it has been quite draining.
18:09:00 <riecatnor> There has been an unprecedented amount, due to covid and pandemic fatigue, imo.
18:09:35 <riecatnor> This is not a responsibility you folks need to worry about, but it is invisible work
18:10:14 <riecatnor> So my thought is, I will push back the timeline, still create a blog post for comm blog to make sure we have hit all spots
18:10:25 <tg-fedmindshare> <x​3mboy> I'm her
18:10:26 <tg-fedmindshare> <x​3mboy> Here*
18:10:29 <tg-fedmindshare> <x​3mboy> Partially
18:10:34 <riecatnor> heya x3mboy!
18:10:35 <bt0> I appreciate your work in this kind of difficult issues riecatnor
18:10:46 <tg-fedmindshare> <x​3mboy> Np
18:10:59 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: no worries, let me know if I can do something to help you..
18:11:26 * nasirhm waves
18:11:35 <riecatnor> Once I set the new deadline, siddharthvipul, would be great if you help keep me to that :P
18:11:44 * nasirhm is here.
18:11:49 <riecatnor> hiya nasirhm
18:11:53 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: so you mean constant pings and nagging you? you got it
18:11:54 <nb> riecatnor will we be getting shirts for nest with fedora?
18:12:52 <riecatnor> nb, I don't think we are going with tshirts.. but there is still a swag initiative I am working on for the virtual conference, and I hope to be able to reveal that soon
18:12:55 <nasirhm> riecatnor: Hey \o
18:12:56 <tg-fedmindshare> <s​umantro93> Congratulations @x3mboy :)
18:12:56 <tg-fedmindshare> <s​umantro93> Hey all o/
18:13:06 <riecatnor> hi Sumantro!
18:13:27 <siddharthvipul> nb: hmm, I think it would be extremely difficult with the shipping (customs) and with covid-19
18:13:28 <nb_> riecatnor, cool
18:13:32 <nb_> siddharthvipul, well, true
18:13:48 <tg-fedmindshare> <s​umantro93> Hey riecatnor! :D
18:14:02 <siddharthvipul> @sumantro93, morning senpai ;)
18:14:04 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, I am going to try to make the difficult happen :D in a compact envelope sized way
18:14:38 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: I mean I am not that crazy yet to say no to home delivered swag.. sure ;)
18:14:56 <riecatnor> I am going to do my best!
18:15:02 <riecatnor> ok, so onto the next
18:15:04 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/209
18:15:29 <riecatnor> Sumantro, looks like your opinion is needed here
18:15:31 <riecatnor> :)
18:15:37 <tg-fedmindshare> <s​umantro93> Hahaha morning indeed in 45c
18:15:43 <siddharthvipul> we need @sumantro93 's +1 to have both outreachy and gsoc organizers and the op's agreement
18:15:48 <riecatnor> 45c >.>
18:16:01 <riecatnor> jflory did agree!
18:16:18 <riecatnor> jwf agreed :)
18:16:29 <siddharthvipul> we have op's (Justin) and outrachy (riecatnor)
18:16:44 <siddharthvipul> I mean to say if sumantro gives +1, all 3 would be complete
18:17:15 <bt0> cool
18:17:17 <siddharthvipul> or, count my +1 as gsoc admin hehe
18:17:17 <tg-fedmindshare> <s​umantro93> It's a +1 from my side :)
18:17:24 <siddharthvipul> @sumantro93, thank you
18:17:30 <siddharthvipul> so that needs to be in the doc
18:17:39 <siddharthvipul> I can send a pr (but where, any ideas?)
18:17:47 <siddharthvipul> I will take the task to send a PR
18:17:49 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, you are asking where that should live?
18:18:04 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: yep, that's it
18:18:23 <riecatnor> here somewhere https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mentored-projects/gsoc/2020/
18:18:56 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: we can put it in both the outreachy and gsoc's front page
18:19:00 <siddharthvipul> works for you?
18:19:02 <riecatnor> seems good
18:19:10 <siddharthvipul> will do
18:19:10 <riecatnor> or, another page just for that?
18:19:19 <riecatnor> like here is mentored project lead duties
18:19:21 <siddharthvipul> yep, or that :P
18:19:47 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: that's not exactly mentored project seat duties, but I see why it looks like it
18:20:00 <riecatnor> ah, I see your point
18:20:13 <riecatnor> I think you know best, ignore my phrasing :P
18:21:09 <riecatnor> so
18:21:12 <siddharthvipul> hehe, I guess I will do "something" over the weekends, we will see how that goes
18:21:18 <riecatnor> #topic open floor
18:21:23 <riecatnor> thanks siddharthvipul :D
18:21:50 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: for open floor I have a thing
18:21:58 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, go ahead
18:22:01 <siddharthvipul> I would need email ids of all outreachy students
18:22:11 <siddharthvipul> (to inform them of project showcase)
18:22:15 <siddharthvipul> is it doable?
18:22:15 <riecatnor> current?
18:22:19 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: yeah
18:22:26 <riecatnor> yeah, can you send me an email with that request
18:22:34 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: yeah, will do
18:22:36 <siddharthvipul> thanks
18:22:37 <riecatnor> thanks
18:22:50 <riecatnor> I would like to point out this ticket https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mentored-projects/gsoc/2020/
18:22:51 <riecatnor> oops
18:23:01 <riecatnor> https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/135
18:23:05 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/135
18:23:36 <riecatnor> I know it was discussed last week, and there is more conversation happening there
18:23:44 <siddharthvipul> I had been following council meeting and i think it's a good thing they brought up.. who is going to draft a write up :P
18:23:54 <riecatnor> I believe it is important for this committee to be aware of what is going on there
18:24:50 <riecatnor> Other than that, not much to say on that topic, tho I am happy to discuss or hear others thoughts
18:26:06 * siddharthvipul waits to see if others have to say something.. I have already put my points on the ticket :)
18:26:30 <siddharthvipul> i am in +1 as mindshare member to show our support to D&I team to release a statement
18:27:18 <riecatnor> ok, any other topics for today?
18:27:31 <nasirhm> Although i'm not a committee member, it's +1 from my side for the letter.
18:28:33 <riecatnor> ok :D thank you folks for another productive meeting
18:28:40 <riecatnor> #endmeeting