17:30:42 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Mindshare
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17:30:42 <riecatnor> #chair bt0dotninja codeblock hhlp nb pbokoc riecatnor x3mboy tatica
17:30:43 <riecatnor> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-mindshare
17:30:43 <riecatnor> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
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17:30:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0dotninja codeblock hhlp nb pbokoc riecatnor tatica x3mboy
17:30:43 <riecatnor> #topic Hello
17:30:47 <bt0> hi riecatnor
17:30:51 <riecatnor> hi bt0!
17:30:53 <nb> .hi
17:30:54 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nick@bebout.net>
17:30:56 <bt0> .fasinfo bt0dotninja
17:30:57 <zodbot> bt0: User: bt0dotninja, Name: Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez, email: hotgalan@gmail.com, Creation: 2016-07-25, IRC Nick: bt0, Timezone: America/Mexico_City, Locale: en, GPG key ID: E74B5808, Status: active
17:31:00 <riecatnor> .fasinfo riecatnor
17:31:00 <zodbot> bt0: Approved Groups: marketing cla_fpca cla_done dotnet-team ambassadors @fedora-mx +fedora-join mindshare +ask-fedora +summer-coding +advocates packager fedorabugs neuro-sig @commops
17:31:03 <zodbot> riecatnor: User: riecatnor, Name: None, email: mnordin@redhat.com, Creation: 2013-10-18, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
17:31:06 <zodbot> riecatnor: Approved Groups: gitbadges cla_fpca cla_done +designteam ask-fedora @council @mindshare @commops @community-blog @diversity-team gitfossrit @marketing @fedora-socialmedia wikiedit @summer-coding sysadmin sysadmin-badges advocates
17:31:15 <hhlp> .fasinfo hhlp
17:31:16 <zodbot> hhlp: User: hhlp, Name: Héctor H. Louzao P., email: louzaoh@gmail.com, Creation: 2010-11-04, IRC Nick: hhlp, Timezone: Europe/Madrid, Locale: es, GPG key ID: 706D157F, Status: active
17:31:16 <nasirhm> .hello2
17:31:19 <zodbot> hhlp: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_fedora cla_done @ask-fedora +fedora-join mindshare
17:31:22 <zodbot> nasirhm: nasirhm 'Nasir Hussain' <nasirhussainm14@gmail.com>
17:31:40 <riecatnor> how's everyone doing today?
17:32:09 <bt0> Good :)
17:32:25 <hhlp> well :)
17:32:33 <riecatnor> I am hanging in there. Nest has made me quite a busy (or busier) lady
17:32:55 <riecatnor> Glad to hear that :D
17:32:59 <bt0> a lots of talks :)
17:33:12 <nasirhm> Good.
17:33:35 <riecatnor> I am planning to host some social hours.. but it's all those little details that are being worked out now
17:33:48 <riecatnor> since it came up
17:33:51 <riecatnor> #topic nest with fedora
17:33:53 * nasirhm is partially here along with another meeting.
17:34:10 <riecatnor> anyone have any thoughts for nest, need any assistance, etc
17:34:11 <riecatnor> ?
17:36:19 <hhlp> not from my side, all are very clear
17:36:20 <x3mboy> .hello2
17:36:21 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
17:36:35 <x3mboy> Nothing from me
17:36:46 <tg-fedmindshare> <s​umantro93> Hey folks, I am sorry but I am gonna miss this one
17:37:31 <nasirhm> , Nothing from my side.  Thanks for asking riecatnor
17:37:59 <nb> looking forward to nest
17:38:10 <nb> we need tshirts for nest
17:38:15 <bt0> :)
17:38:21 <nb> although i guess that would be a logistical nightmare
17:38:40 <riecatnor> no worries Sumantro
17:38:46 <riecatnor> Yes, same!
17:39:19 <riecatnor> nb, no tshirts, for shipping reasons, bulky, and would need to be shipped according to size/person. BUT I did get some Nest bags printed
17:39:36 <nb> cool!
17:39:42 <riecatnor> We are going to do our *very best* to get swag bags shipped to our contributors :D
17:39:51 <riecatnor> the registration will be publicized later on today
17:39:56 <x3mboy> Cool!
17:39:57 <bt0> awesome
17:40:04 <x3mboy> riecatnor++
17:40:10 * nb made himself unavailable at work so he could participate in nest
17:40:13 <nasirhm> Awesome :)
17:40:16 <x3mboy> .moar cookies riecatnor
17:40:16 <zodbot> here riecatnor, have some more cookies
17:40:19 <riecatnor> There are some complications from covid-19, and some countries will be tougher to get to
17:40:21 <riecatnor> :D
17:40:47 <nb> riecatnor++
17:40:47 <zodbot> nb: Karma for riecatnor changed to 15 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:40:52 <riecatnor> so, we will hold onto the swag bags for folks from those areas, and they will get them eventually (even if I have to store that in my apartment and hand them out individually lol)
17:40:54 * nasirhm has taken 3 days total off (unavailability) from work for Nest :)
17:40:58 <nb> what?!?!?!! I HADN'T GIVEN HER A COOKIE YET?
17:41:04 <riecatnor> hahahaha
17:41:07 <riecatnor> nb++
17:41:08 <bt0> riecatnor++
17:41:25 <riecatnor> looks like I gave one to you already nb
17:41:29 <riecatnor> bt0++
17:41:37 <nasirhm> riecatnor++
17:41:39 <hhlp> riecatnor++
17:41:39 <zodbot> hhlp: Karma for riecatnor changed to 16 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:41:43 <riecatnor> hhlp++
17:41:49 <riecatnor> cookie shower!
17:41:54 <nb> yay
17:41:56 <nb> i like cookies
17:42:03 <nasirhm> A mini cookie party here 🍪
17:42:09 <riecatnor> What's everyones favorite cookie?
17:42:15 <nb> riecatnor stroopwafels
17:42:20 <x3mboy> American chocolate oreo
17:42:24 * nb usually tries to get puiterwijk to bring him a pack of stroopwafels
17:42:36 <nb> and if i transit through AMS, I usually buy a bunch of them at the airport
17:42:42 <x3mboy> The non american chocolate is too sweet
17:42:46 <nasirhm> It's Oreo 🍪
17:42:56 <riecatnor> I think mine is the Italian sandwich cookie: https://food.fnr.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/food/fullset/2017/1/9/6/FN_Allison-Robicelli-Italian-Sandwich-Cookies_s4x3.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.826.620.suffix/1484773532329.jpeg
17:43:13 <riecatnor> oreos are amazingggg
17:43:30 * nb hopes we get to have flock in person next year.  Looking forward to visiting Europe again, maybe
17:43:34 <nb> depending on how covid goes
17:43:39 <bt0> stroopwafel
17:43:40 <riecatnor> yeah, nb, agreed.
17:43:48 <x3mboy> There is also something called "Chip's Ahoy" that are kind of good
17:43:50 <riecatnor> bt0, also stroopwafel??
17:44:04 <x3mboy> But basically anything done with chocolate is good for me
17:44:14 * nb likes chocolate chip cookies also
17:44:26 <x3mboy> But real chocolate, no the "sugar free" or "gluten free" stuff
17:44:33 <bt0> very difficult to get in Mexico but it are delicious
17:44:48 <riecatnor> I like to make this chocolate crinkle cookie for Christmas each year: https://www.cookingclassy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/chocolate-crinkle-cookies-7.jpg
17:45:05 <riecatnor> its like a brownie cookie omgggg
17:45:31 <riecatnor> lol, ok, so back to work or something :P
17:45:36 <riecatnor> #topic ambassador revamp
17:46:01 <x3mboy> There have been a lot of feedback and volunteers
17:46:04 <riecatnor> I have met with Sumantro and Mariana twice, and we are getting the scheduling/task setting/prioritizing underway
17:46:05 <x3mboy> That's good
17:46:11 <riecatnor> yes, agreed, x3mboy !
17:47:11 <nasirhm> sumantrom++ marianab++
17:47:22 <bt0> cool
17:48:15 <riecatnor> So I think once we have more of that timeline underway, more tasks set, we can gather the emails from that ticket and start some email thread or maybe even a telegram chat?
17:48:25 <riecatnor> We need some way to organize those folks together to discuss.
17:48:43 <x3mboy> I forgot how cool is to be on IRC. I was working mostly with the riot client for matrix. But this is way faster
17:49:03 <nasirhm> riecatnor: How about a IRC channel ?
17:49:35 <nasirhm> (TG is banned in some countries) and then following up with summaries on a ML thread.
17:49:41 <riecatnor> nasirhm, eh, I am not sure. Someone would need to set it up maintain etc etc and I think we are already overloaded on fedora channels?
17:49:46 <riecatnor> ah, nasirhm good point
17:49:57 <riecatnor> nb, wdyt?
17:50:22 <nb> why not use #fedora-ambassadors?
17:50:26 <riecatnor> perfect
17:50:37 <nb> it already exists
17:50:41 <riecatnor> is that linked to riot or tg?
17:50:44 <riecatnor> (element?)
17:50:54 <nasirhm> #fedora-ambassadors, Sounds cool.
17:51:08 <hhlp> yes sound good
17:51:42 <nb> I'll get some more people added to the access list
17:52:04 <riecatnor> how/who helps out with bridging?
17:52:06 * nasirhm just joined the -ambassadors channel.
17:52:12 <riecatnor> same, nasirhm :P
17:52:22 <riecatnor> is there a place we can request the bridge?
17:52:34 <riecatnor> maybe jwf knows
17:52:34 <hhlp> tickte in infra I think
17:52:39 <nasirhm> riecatnor: I can take care of the tg bridge.
17:52:41 <hhlp> *ticket
17:52:55 <riecatnor> nasirhm, sweet!
17:53:03 <riecatnor> and can we get the same room on element too?
17:53:16 <nasirhm> riecatnor: Sure.
17:54:09 <riecatnor> so once things are in place, we will advertise that on the pagure ticket, and to the ambassador/commops/join lists
17:54:25 <riecatnor> whose excited??
17:54:34 <x3mboy> o/
17:54:37 <hhlp> o/
17:54:46 <bt0> o/
17:54:51 <x3mboy> About matrix integration, it's kind of "in the wild"
17:55:19 * nasirhm haven't bridged an IRC <=> Element yet, would be a good start for me.
17:55:19 <tg-fedmindshare> <m​arianaballa> Good morning/ evening everyone \o/
17:55:34 <bt0> hi Mariana
17:55:35 <riecatnor> hi Mariana!
17:55:46 <x3mboy> For TG, a pagure ticket in the tg-infra repo: https://pagure.io/sig-teleirc/infrastructure/
17:55:47 <hhlp> hi Mariana, welcome
17:55:50 <nasirhm> (Are we raising hands for questions ?)
17:55:59 <riecatnor> nasirhm, go ahead with your question :)
17:56:09 <x3mboy> @marianaballa Hi!
17:56:54 <nasirhm> riecatnor: I thought people were raising hands for questions, just discovered @marianaballa joined. (Element's slow)
17:57:10 <riecatnor> ah, no worries :)
17:57:22 <riecatnor> can we close https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/218 ?
17:57:37 <nasirhm> Welcome @mariannaballa o/ , it's night here.
17:57:38 <riecatnor> it is all on the wiki
17:57:43 <bt0> +1 to close
17:57:49 <riecatnor> I can put a link on the wiki too
17:58:00 <hhlp> +1 please
17:58:55 <nasirhm> +1 to close, with a last comment to the wiki.
17:59:56 <riecatnor> Done :)
18:00:16 <nasirhm> riecatnor++ ^^
18:01:08 <riecatnor> #topic F32 release parties
18:01:10 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/217
18:01:26 <riecatnor> oops
18:01:31 <riecatnor> #topic F33 release parties
18:01:49 <bt0> :P
18:02:04 <nasirhm> (The most awaited topic of the day for me :D)
18:02:20 <riecatnor> I think bcotton has a nifty release schedule somewhere
18:02:34 <riecatnor> anyone have a link handy? I can dig for that too
18:02:48 <nasirhm> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-mindshare-tasks.html
18:03:04 <nasirhm> ^ here riecatnor.
18:03:09 <riecatnor> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-key-tasks.html
18:03:13 <riecatnor> I think we want this one :)
18:03:25 <x3mboy> Even having a "schedule", RPs are really free for doing at any time
18:03:36 <riecatnor> did bcotton write this mindshare one for us?
18:03:42 <riecatnor> I haven't even seen this lol!!
18:03:53 <x3mboy> Of course it's cooler to have them close to release day, but it's not required
18:04:24 <nasirhm> x3mboy: We can call for release parties around 15 days ago with the date and ask people if they're comfortable with the date.
18:04:32 <riecatnor> Sure, x3mboy, agreed. I think we need to come up with some sort of "how to" or guidelines to do those
18:05:02 <x3mboy> Like this: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/release-parties/
18:05:04 <x3mboy> ??
18:05:04 <riecatnor> Ah, this kinda relates to nest. The platform we are using, HopIn, should we available to us for one entire year
18:05:10 <bt0> In Mexico we will do it in our monthly meeting
18:06:11 <riecatnor> And I think it would be nice to hold release parties there.. which is why I would like to ask mindshare folks to observe and be critical of the platform
18:06:29 <riecatnor> do we think it would fit well for release parties/fedora women day, FADs, hackfest, etcs
18:06:37 <x3mboy> Got it
18:06:49 <nasirhm> In Pakistan, I can initiate a conversation for virtual meetup for it after Eid.
18:06:58 <riecatnor> (like critical in our next mindshare meeting :P not in the middle of the event lol)
18:07:57 <bt0> Sounds good
18:07:58 <riecatnor> It has some really cool features in there, you will see. Including a networking section where you can randomly be paired with folks for a quick video chat. Or we could set those up to pair folks, for example, newbies and veterans :)
18:08:21 <x3mboy> Cool
18:08:22 <nasirhm> riecatnor: Sounds awesome.
18:08:28 <hhlp> great
18:08:31 <x3mboy> Well, it needs to be tested
18:08:52 <riecatnor> There is also a sponsor area, so if we want to include some other community, company, sponsor, we can offer that
18:09:00 <riecatnor> I think its called the "expo area"
18:09:08 <riecatnor> x3mboy, yes, definitely.
18:09:36 <bt0> yeah, sounds great
18:09:37 <riecatnor> so as we participate in Nest, also take note of any ideas you have
18:09:47 <nasirhm> x3mboy: Once the instance is up, (before nest) we can test it. :)
18:09:51 <riecatnor> how we can use that and leverage for the virtual world we are living in
18:10:18 <riecatnor> good news is, that is being partially sponsored by the Open Source Program Office at RH as well
18:10:32 <x3mboy> Will this be ready this week?
18:10:44 <x3mboy> Nest is next week
18:11:13 <riecatnor> lol, it is :) the event will only open 5 minutes before, and it goes for 72 hours. I am dealing with the organization pieces :)
18:11:30 <riecatnor> There are limited number of admin spaces to get behind the scenes and I am filling those spots with moderators
18:11:46 <bt0> good to know that
18:11:49 <riecatnor> so, I want you all to enjoy the event, and count that as your test
18:12:14 <riecatnor> take questions, ideas, criticism etc and we can discuss in the next mindshare meeting
18:12:19 <riecatnor> (tho I might take a week off of that lol)
18:12:39 <nb> riecatnor what timezone is Nest taking place in?
18:12:49 <nb> and do you need more moderators?
18:12:49 * nasirhm is excited for his first Nest in Fedora
18:13:19 <riecatnor> nb the plan is to put all the content in an 8-10 hour window (except we had some meetup requests so those will def be localized)
18:13:35 <riecatnor> so it starts at 1200PM UTC
18:13:46 <nasirhm> riecatnor: I can provide a hand with moderation, if needed.
18:14:00 <riecatnor> and goes til Sunday 9 August at 2200UTC
18:14:43 <riecatnor> I would like everyone to be keeping an eye out for behavior that is not consistent with our CoC
18:15:02 <riecatnor> I will establish a way for folks to report that, and there will be a small group of folks doing the actual banning if necessary
18:16:10 <riecatnor> we are back on nest again :P
18:16:18 <nasirhm> Awesome.
18:16:23 <riecatnor> nb, what time zone are you in?
18:17:05 <riecatnor> I am trying to cover as many timezones for the moderators with admin access
18:17:18 <riecatnor> (est is definitely covered lol)
18:17:25 <x3mboy> I'm available 24/7
18:17:31 <x3mboy> If needed
18:17:44 <x3mboy> Officially I'm UTC-4
18:17:52 <tg-fedmindshare> <p​bokoc> If you're looking for moderator volunteers I could help as well. I'm in UTC+2.
18:17:52 <bt0> I'm UTC -5
18:18:17 <hhlp> I'm UTC +2 too
18:18:20 <riecatnor> ok, great! I will be figuring those slots out in the next day or two. I appreciate the volunteers!! Glad this came up
18:18:32 <nasirhm> (PKT [Pakistan Standard Time] UTC +5 and IST [Indian Standard Time] +5:30) is coveered too
18:18:34 <riecatnor> (should we move back to release parties or should I give up on that? lol)
18:18:34 <bt0> :)
18:19:13 <x3mboy> riecatnor, what do you want to talk about F33 RPs???
18:19:15 <bt0> sure,  rellease parties
18:19:20 <riecatnor> I talked with siddharthvipul for Indian Standard Time, he plans to be there for the majority
18:19:25 <nasirhm> riecatnor: people are too excited about nest :excited:
18:19:41 <riecatnor> Oh, so I guess, maybe we need to wait until after nest, but I think we need to write up a process for people to use that
18:20:07 <nasirhm> riecatnor: it might get late for south east asian timezones in the end.
18:20:17 <riecatnor> I think we could add a section in on that link you sent, x3mboy, about holding virtual events
18:20:55 <x3mboy> Probably a good idea
18:21:05 <x3mboy> That wasn't conceive with COVID in mind
18:21:06 <x3mboy> xD
18:21:08 <bt0> yep
18:21:39 <bt0> I will work in Docs tomorrow, let me make a proposal
18:21:43 <hhlp> +1 possible good idea that is going to be normal way in the next month for covid-19
18:21:55 <riecatnor> great, bt0, thank you!
18:22:11 <nasirhm> bt0++
18:22:40 <hhlp> bt0++
18:22:40 <zodbot> hhlp: Karma for bt0dotninja changed to 10 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
18:22:52 <riecatnor> #topic open floor
18:23:01 * nasirhm needs an unlimited supply of cookies
18:23:03 <riecatnor> only a couple minutes left, anyone have things?
18:23:36 <bt0> not from me
18:23:41 <hhlp> not from my side
18:23:45 <nasirhm> Nothing from my side, Thanks for running the meeting riecatnor
18:24:21 <riecatnor> does anyone know how often the websites rebuild?
18:24:46 <riecatnor> random question as I am working on getting the flocktofedora website updated with registration
18:24:55 <nasirhm> A @pbokoc question
18:25:21 <x3mboy> Nothing from my side
18:25:42 <pbokoc> that's more of a relrod question, I only worry about docs.fp.o, we have a separate system
18:26:32 <riecatnor> ok, well I can investigate outside of the mindshare meeting :)
18:26:45 <nasirhm> Today I learnt Docs.fp.o and websites have separate build times.
18:26:45 <riecatnor> ah, actually, maybe misc knows?
18:27:26 <riecatnor> welp, anyways.
18:27:35 <riecatnor> Thank you, team! You all rock!
18:27:38 <riecatnor> #endmeeting