17:30:42 #startmeeting Mindshare 17:30:42 Meeting started Wed Jul 29 17:30:42 2020 UTC. 17:30:42 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:30:42 The chair is riecatnor. 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Louzao P., email: louzaoh@gmail.com, Creation: 2010-11-04, IRC Nick: hhlp, Timezone: Europe/Madrid, Locale: es, GPG key ID: 706D157F, Status: active 17:31:16 .hello2 17:31:19 hhlp: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_fedora cla_done @ask-fedora +fedora-join mindshare 17:31:22 nasirhm: nasirhm 'Nasir Hussain' 17:31:40 how's everyone doing today? 17:32:09 Good :) 17:32:25 well :) 17:32:33 I am hanging in there. Nest has made me quite a busy (or busier) lady 17:32:55 Glad to hear that :D 17:32:59 a lots of talks :) 17:33:12 Good. 17:33:35 I am planning to host some social hours.. but it's all those little details that are being worked out now 17:33:48 since it came up 17:33:51 #topic nest with fedora 17:33:53 * nasirhm is partially here along with another meeting. 17:34:10 anyone have any thoughts for nest, need any assistance, etc 17:34:11 ? 17:36:19 not from my side, all are very clear 17:36:20 .hello2 17:36:21 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 17:36:35 Nothing from me 17:36:46 Hey folks, I am sorry but I am gonna miss this one 17:37:31 , Nothing from my side. Thanks for asking riecatnor 17:37:59 looking forward to nest 17:38:10 we need tshirts for nest 17:38:15 :) 17:38:21 although i guess that would be a logistical nightmare 17:38:40 no worries Sumantro 17:38:46 Yes, same! 17:39:19 nb, no tshirts, for shipping reasons, bulky, and would need to be shipped according to size/person. BUT I did get some Nest bags printed 17:39:36 cool! 17:39:42 We are going to do our *very best* to get swag bags shipped to our contributors :D 17:39:51 the registration will be publicized later on today 17:39:56 Cool! 17:39:57 awesome 17:40:04 riecatnor++ 17:40:10 * nb made himself unavailable at work so he could participate in nest 17:40:13 Awesome :) 17:40:16 .moar cookies riecatnor 17:40:16 here riecatnor, have some more cookies 17:40:19 There are some complications from covid-19, and some countries will be tougher to get to 17:40:21 :D 17:40:47 riecatnor++ 17:40:47 nb: Karma for riecatnor changed to 15 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:40:52 so, we will hold onto the swag bags for folks from those areas, and they will get them eventually (even if I have to store that in my apartment and hand them out individually lol) 17:40:54 * nasirhm has taken 3 days total off (unavailability) from work for Nest :) 17:40:58 what?!?!?!! I HADN'T GIVEN HER A COOKIE YET? 17:41:04 hahahaha 17:41:07 nb++ 17:41:08 riecatnor++ 17:41:25 looks like I gave one to you already nb 17:41:29 bt0++ 17:41:37 riecatnor++ 17:41:39 riecatnor++ 17:41:39 hhlp: Karma for riecatnor changed to 16 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:41:43 hhlp++ 17:41:49 cookie shower! 17:41:54 yay 17:41:56 i like cookies 17:42:03 A mini cookie party here 🍪 17:42:09 What's everyones favorite cookie? 17:42:15 riecatnor stroopwafels 17:42:20 American chocolate oreo 17:42:24 * nb usually tries to get puiterwijk to bring him a pack of stroopwafels 17:42:36 and if i transit through AMS, I usually buy a bunch of them at the airport 17:42:42 The non american chocolate is too sweet 17:42:46 It's Oreo 🍪 17:42:56 I think mine is the Italian sandwich cookie: https://food.fnr.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/food/fullset/2017/1/9/6/FN_Allison-Robicelli-Italian-Sandwich-Cookies_s4x3.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.826.620.suffix/1484773532329.jpeg 17:43:13 oreos are amazingggg 17:43:30 * nb hopes we get to have flock in person next year. Looking forward to visiting Europe again, maybe 17:43:34 depending on how covid goes 17:43:39 stroopwafel 17:43:40 yeah, nb, agreed. 17:43:48 There is also something called "Chip's Ahoy" that are kind of good 17:43:50 bt0, also stroopwafel?? 17:44:04 But basically anything done with chocolate is good for me 17:44:14 * nb likes chocolate chip cookies also 17:44:26 But real chocolate, no the "sugar free" or "gluten free" stuff 17:44:33 very difficult to get in Mexico but it are delicious 17:44:48 I like to make this chocolate crinkle cookie for Christmas each year: https://www.cookingclassy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/chocolate-crinkle-cookies-7.jpg 17:45:05 its like a brownie cookie omgggg 17:45:31 lol, ok, so back to work or something :P 17:45:36 #topic ambassador revamp 17:46:01 There have been a lot of feedback and volunteers 17:46:04 I have met with Sumantro and Mariana twice, and we are getting the scheduling/task setting/prioritizing underway 17:46:05 That's good 17:46:11 yes, agreed, x3mboy ! 17:47:11 sumantrom++ marianab++ 17:47:22 cool 17:48:15 So I think once we have more of that timeline underway, more tasks set, we can gather the emails from that ticket and start some email thread or maybe even a telegram chat? 17:48:25 We need some way to organize those folks together to discuss. 17:48:43 I forgot how cool is to be on IRC. I was working mostly with the riot client for matrix. But this is way faster 17:49:03 riecatnor: How about a IRC channel ? 17:49:35 (TG is banned in some countries) and then following up with summaries on a ML thread. 17:49:41 nasirhm, eh, I am not sure. Someone would need to set it up maintain etc etc and I think we are already overloaded on fedora channels? 17:49:46 ah, nasirhm good point 17:49:57 nb, wdyt? 17:50:22 why not use #fedora-ambassadors? 17:50:26 perfect 17:50:37 it already exists 17:50:41 is that linked to riot or tg? 17:50:44 (element?) 17:50:54 #fedora-ambassadors, Sounds cool. 17:51:08 yes sound good 17:51:42 I'll get some more people added to the access list 17:52:04 how/who helps out with bridging? 17:52:06 * nasirhm just joined the -ambassadors channel. 17:52:12 same, nasirhm :P 17:52:22 is there a place we can request the bridge? 17:52:34 maybe jwf knows 17:52:34 tickte in infra I think 17:52:39 riecatnor: I can take care of the tg bridge. 17:52:41 *ticket 17:52:55 nasirhm, sweet! 17:53:03 and can we get the same room on element too? 17:53:16 riecatnor: Sure. 17:54:09 so once things are in place, we will advertise that on the pagure ticket, and to the ambassador/commops/join lists 17:54:25 whose excited?? 17:54:34 o/ 17:54:37 o/ 17:54:46 o/ 17:54:51 About matrix integration, it's kind of "in the wild" 17:55:19 * nasirhm haven't bridged an IRC <=> Element yet, would be a good start for me. 17:55:19 Good morning/ evening everyone \o/ 17:55:34 hi Mariana 17:55:35 hi Mariana! 17:55:46 For TG, a pagure ticket in the tg-infra repo: https://pagure.io/sig-teleirc/infrastructure/ 17:55:47 hi Mariana, welcome 17:55:50 (Are we raising hands for questions ?) 17:55:59 nasirhm, go ahead with your question :) 17:56:09 @marianaballa Hi! 17:56:54 riecatnor: I thought people were raising hands for questions, just discovered @marianaballa joined. (Element's slow) 17:57:10 ah, no worries :) 17:57:22 can we close https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/218 ? 17:57:37 Welcome @mariannaballa o/ , it's night here. 17:57:38 it is all on the wiki 17:57:43 +1 to close 17:57:49 I can put a link on the wiki too 17:58:00 +1 please 17:58:55 +1 to close, with a last comment to the wiki. 17:59:56 Done :) 18:00:16 riecatnor++ ^^ 18:01:08 #topic F32 release parties 18:01:10 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/217 18:01:26 oops 18:01:31 #topic F33 release parties 18:01:49 :P 18:02:04 (The most awaited topic of the day for me :D) 18:02:20 I think bcotton has a nifty release schedule somewhere 18:02:34 anyone have a link handy? I can dig for that too 18:02:48 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-mindshare-tasks.html 18:03:04 ^ here riecatnor. 18:03:09 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-key-tasks.html 18:03:13 I think we want this one :) 18:03:25 Even having a "schedule", RPs are really free for doing at any time 18:03:36 did bcotton write this mindshare one for us? 18:03:42 I haven't even seen this lol!! 18:03:53 Of course it's cooler to have them close to release day, but it's not required 18:04:24 x3mboy: We can call for release parties around 15 days ago with the date and ask people if they're comfortable with the date. 18:04:32 Sure, x3mboy, agreed. I think we need to come up with some sort of "how to" or guidelines to do those 18:05:02 Like this: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare-committee/release-parties/ 18:05:04 ?? 18:05:04 Ah, this kinda relates to nest. The platform we are using, HopIn, should we available to us for one entire year 18:05:10 In Mexico we will do it in our monthly meeting 18:06:11 And I think it would be nice to hold release parties there.. which is why I would like to ask mindshare folks to observe and be critical of the platform 18:06:29 do we think it would fit well for release parties/fedora women day, FADs, hackfest, etcs 18:06:37 Got it 18:06:49 In Pakistan, I can initiate a conversation for virtual meetup for it after Eid. 18:06:58 (like critical in our next mindshare meeting :P not in the middle of the event lol) 18:07:57 Sounds good 18:07:58 It has some really cool features in there, you will see. Including a networking section where you can randomly be paired with folks for a quick video chat. Or we could set those up to pair folks, for example, newbies and veterans :) 18:08:21 Cool 18:08:22 riecatnor: Sounds awesome. 18:08:28 great 18:08:31 Well, it needs to be tested 18:08:52 There is also a sponsor area, so if we want to include some other community, company, sponsor, we can offer that 18:09:00 I think its called the "expo area" 18:09:08 x3mboy, yes, definitely. 18:09:36 yeah, sounds great 18:09:37 so as we participate in Nest, also take note of any ideas you have 18:09:47 x3mboy: Once the instance is up, (before nest) we can test it. :) 18:09:51 how we can use that and leverage for the virtual world we are living in 18:10:18 good news is, that is being partially sponsored by the Open Source Program Office at RH as well 18:10:32 Will this be ready this week? 18:10:44 Nest is next week 18:11:13 lol, it is :) the event will only open 5 minutes before, and it goes for 72 hours. I am dealing with the organization pieces :) 18:11:30 There are limited number of admin spaces to get behind the scenes and I am filling those spots with moderators 18:11:46 good to know that 18:11:49 so, I want you all to enjoy the event, and count that as your test 18:12:14 take questions, ideas, criticism etc and we can discuss in the next mindshare meeting 18:12:19 (tho I might take a week off of that lol) 18:12:39 riecatnor what timezone is Nest taking place in? 18:12:49 and do you need more moderators? 18:12:49 * nasirhm is excited for his first Nest in Fedora 18:13:19 nb the plan is to put all the content in an 8-10 hour window (except we had some meetup requests so those will def be localized) 18:13:35 so it starts at 1200PM UTC 18:13:46 riecatnor: I can provide a hand with moderation, if needed. 18:14:00 and goes til Sunday 9 August at 2200UTC 18:14:43 I would like everyone to be keeping an eye out for behavior that is not consistent with our CoC 18:15:02 I will establish a way for folks to report that, and there will be a small group of folks doing the actual banning if necessary 18:16:10 we are back on nest again :P 18:16:18 Awesome. 18:16:23 nb, what time zone are you in? 18:17:05 I am trying to cover as many timezones for the moderators with admin access 18:17:18 (est is definitely covered lol) 18:17:25 I'm available 24/7 18:17:31 If needed 18:17:44 Officially I'm UTC-4 18:17:52 If you're looking for moderator volunteers I could help as well. I'm in UTC+2. 18:17:52 I'm UTC -5 18:18:17 I'm UTC +2 too 18:18:20 ok, great! I will be figuring those slots out in the next day or two. I appreciate the volunteers!! Glad this came up 18:18:32 (PKT [Pakistan Standard Time] UTC +5 and IST [Indian Standard Time] +5:30) is coveered too 18:18:34 (should we move back to release parties or should I give up on that? lol) 18:18:34 :) 18:19:13 riecatnor, what do you want to talk about F33 RPs??? 18:19:15 sure, rellease parties 18:19:20 I talked with siddharthvipul for Indian Standard Time, he plans to be there for the majority 18:19:25 riecatnor: people are too excited about nest :excited: 18:19:41 Oh, so I guess, maybe we need to wait until after nest, but I think we need to write up a process for people to use that 18:20:07 riecatnor: it might get late for south east asian timezones in the end. 18:20:17 I think we could add a section in on that link you sent, x3mboy, about holding virtual events 18:20:55 Probably a good idea 18:21:05 That wasn't conceive with COVID in mind 18:21:06 xD 18:21:08 yep 18:21:39 I will work in Docs tomorrow, let me make a proposal 18:21:43 +1 possible good idea that is going to be normal way in the next month for covid-19 18:21:55 great, bt0, thank you! 18:22:11 bt0++ 18:22:40 bt0++ 18:22:40 hhlp: Karma for bt0dotninja changed to 10 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:22:52 #topic open floor 18:23:01 * nasirhm needs an unlimited supply of cookies 18:23:03 only a couple minutes left, anyone have things? 18:23:36 not from me 18:23:41 not from my side 18:23:45 Nothing from my side, Thanks for running the meeting riecatnor 18:24:21 does anyone know how often the websites rebuild? 18:24:46 random question as I am working on getting the flocktofedora website updated with registration 18:24:55 A @pbokoc question 18:25:21 Nothing from my side 18:25:42 that's more of a relrod question, I only worry about docs.fp.o, we have a separate system 18:26:32 ok, well I can investigate outside of the mindshare meeting :) 18:26:45 Today I learnt Docs.fp.o and websites have separate build times. 18:26:45 ah, actually, maybe misc knows? 18:27:26 welp, anyways. 18:27:35 Thank you, team! You all rock! 18:27:38 #endmeeting