17:31:22 #startmeeting Mindshare 17:31:22 Meeting started Wed Sep 2 17:31:22 2020 UTC. 17:31:22 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:31:22 The chair is riecatnor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:31:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:31:22 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 17:31:23 #meetingname Mindshare 17:31:23 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 17:31:23 #chair bt0dotninja codeblock hhlp nb pbokoc riecatnor x3mboy tatica siddharthvipul1 17:31:23 #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-mindshare 17:31:23 #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/ 17:31:23 Current chairs: bt0dotninja codeblock hhlp nb pbokoc riecatnor siddharthvipul1 tatica x3mboy 17:31:23 #topic Hello 17:31:31 hi 17:31:32 Hi everyone 17:31:41 hi team! 17:31:44 .hello hhlp 17:31:45 hhlp: hhlp 'Héctor H. Louzao P.' 17:31:48 Hi :) 17:32:02 .hello bt0dotninja 17:32:03 bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' 17:32:08 instead of asking how everyone is.. what is everyone drinking today? 17:32:16 I am drinking pour over coffee 17:32:22 Pepsi :( 17:32:31 *and* I also have some seltzer and guava juice 17:32:38 lol, why :( 17:33:09 ? 17:33:28 I have a fancy kind of tea but when i decide what drink take the quick and dirty option 17:33:59 lol, I get it. 17:34:06 .hello2 17:34:08 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 17:34:11 I have been taking a little extra time to do the pour over coffee, and it's worth it 17:34:17 .hello2 17:34:18 riecatnor: riecatnor 'None' 17:34:34 #topic tickets 17:34:37 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/233 17:35:17 :P 17:35:49 this is a great start, bt0! 17:36:34 I have many questions... Particularly about the Privacy and Content 17:37:21 By example, Ask gender and/or pronouns can be good (I think) 17:37:31 mhm, looks like content policy is needed 17:37:55 mm, we can't ask that 17:37:56 maybe FAS accounts can be considered as Personal Information 17:38:44 Oh, we can 17:38:54 But we don't want to because we are too sensitive 17:39:06 Sorry, because it's not right to ask it 17:39:26 Yeah, using the example of the gender we are limiting important questions for D&I 17:39:49 This world is going to improve when you understand that there are 2 and only 2 genders, and everything else is just a particular choice or taste 17:39:49 It has nothing to do with right and wrong 17:40:04 It has to do with legality 17:40:08 s/you/everyone/g 17:40:13 ok, I undertand 17:40:26 x3mboy, that is your opinion, and it is pretty invalidating to a lot of people. 17:40:32 Ask for gender it's a legal problem where and how? 17:40:38 because of GDPR 17:41:14 .me is googling GDPR 17:41:28 Ok, need to read that. I'm pretty sure that you can use data for statistical purpose without any issue, but better to hace it really clear 17:41:43 If it's an issue, then we don't ask 17:42:01 But right I was thinking about that and we need very clear policies about content and privacy :) 17:42:02 In Fedora we don't question peoples gender identities, and we certainly don't make statements like "that there are 2 and only 2 genders" 17:42:24 Not okay. 17:42:51 (especially since intersex people do exist) 17:43:00 right 17:43:15 (like, wikipedia explain it a bit better than me) 17:43:16 I'm talking as a Fedora rep, that's my opinion, and it's based on scientific facts. 17:43:25 But that's not the point of the conversation 17:43:27 It is not based in science 17:43:37 yes, but that statement really offended me 17:44:03 I'm sorry about that, it was not my intention 17:44:35 bt0 can you chair the meeting for now? I will be back in a bit 17:44:51 I need to take a break. 17:45:12 well, but that was the effect, I am also slightly distrubed to see that being said as a opinion when I heard it from far less respectable people than you :/ 17:45:49 We can discuss it outside the meeting 17:46:35 Ok 17:47:27 Well,m Any comment about the policies and the content of the ticket #233 please add it on the ticket 17:48:12 Don't take me wrong, I'm not against the LGBT+ community or anything. I understand the choices and respect them, and support their rights, since I also have the opinion that everyone is the same and should be threated with the same respect, not matter what they are or beilieve 17:48:39 s/beileive/beleive/g 17:49:37 x3mboy, hhlp how do you look the ticket template for lime survey? 17:49:54 bt0, yes, I read it. I think is ok 17:49:55 +1 17:50:07 maybe I can make this PR today :) 17:50:44 Voting? 17:50:58 yeah please 17:51:00 Or schedule voting for next meeting? 17:51:02 or in the ticket 17:51:07 not bad... good enough for beginning 17:51:11 Ok, vote in the ticket 17:51:16 :) 17:51:31 thx bt0 for your works 17:51:32 #ticket https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/232 17:52:13 I don't see Nasir recently I hope he is fine 17:52:40 maybe he is relaxing he is everywhere helping a lot :) 17:52:58 yeah he is RockStar of fedora 17:53:21 Maybe I can help with some draft 17:53:34 until he come again to the task 17:54:33 Another ticket you want to review? (before the ambys revamp) 17:59:15 ok, I choose this one: 17:59:26 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/217 18:00:40 The release of F33 is coming so we need to define the process of multiple virtual Release parties across the globe :) 18:01:40 this ticket has some related with hopin that we talked the last week 18:02:40 yes 18:03:13 until ticket 234 is in progress we can't do too much 18:03:29 IIRC, Marie is working on getting a hopin contract signed 18:03:40 I've offered to help people wit hthe platform after our account is created 18:04:00 hi nb 18:04:21 I updated the ticket 217 blocking by 234 18:04:35 I have a draft of how to organize virtual events 18:04:42 thanks hhlp 18:04:47 hhlp I think you actually did it backwards 18:04:53 234 should be blocking 217 18:05:11 done nb 18:05:41 217 shows that it "blocks" 234, but it should be that 234 blocks 217 18:05:43 * nb will fix 18:06:12 (I don't remember were was that draft) so at least we will propose a draft in the mindshare docs 18:06:28 is fixed now 18:06:37 thx nb 18:06:49 nb++ 18:07:05 .thanks nb 18:07:15 nb++ 18:07:15 hhlp: Karma for nb changed to 15 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:07:23 what is the right command? 18:07:52 bt0 nb++ and .thank nb 18:07:52 nb: You may not modify your own karma. 18:07:53 .alias add thanks thank 18:07:55 nb: Kneel before zod! 18:07:58 .thanks bt0 18:07:58 nb thinks bt0 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type bt0++ since that is what gives them a cookie) 18:08:03 .thank nb 18:08:03 bt0 thinks nb is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type nb++ since that is what gives them a cookie) 18:08:07 bt0 now .thanks will work too :) 18:08:07 :) 18:08:20 amazing 18:09:45 another ticket than you want to review? 18:09:52 Hi, back! 18:10:12 wb riecatnor 18:11:40 Bye guys,I will read the logs and vote on tickets where is needed 18:11:46 ok 18:13:28 It would be good to discuss the release parties in further detail 18:13:37 cool 18:14:01 I have the info we will need 18:14:11 I can add that into the ticket, but lets talk dates 18:15:26 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-key-tasks.html 18:15:56 looks like final target date is october 27th 2020 18:17:19 yeah 18:17:24 lol I see an opportunity for a halloween themed release party 18:18:08 sounds great 18:18:11 Based on HopIns structure we can do a 72 hour event 18:18:22 bt0, idk, I think its just a US thing? 18:18:54 We have the "dia de muertos" in the same dates 18:19:07 Oh interesting 18:19:15 I think I did know that :) 18:19:34 well, I think we should propose three dates, and see what organizers can do 18:19:49 Can we make a list of past release party organizers 18:20:02 sounds like a plan 18:20:05 I guess we would pull that from the mindshare tickets? 18:20:12 I have that list :P 18:20:21 ok great 18:20:34 halowwen is an international day in this era 18:21:13 I will put the list on the ticket 18:21:30 so I will propose that weekend of oct 31st, the next of nov 7th, and next of nov 14th 18:21:57 once I get more of the info together, I think we can send a direct email to past organizers to gain interest 18:22:44 Also at that time, send an email to mindshare/ambassadors/announce(?) for the same 18:23:23 I wondering what will be the best way to deal with cfp/scheduling/sessions for this 18:23:28 for example with nest we had the flock repo 18:23:45 like, we can use Mindshare repo, but don't want to clutter that :P 18:23:52 and we will need to do something similar for FWD 18:24:03 It might make sense to have a virtual event repo 18:24:12 +1 18:24:37 and it can have the resources specific to virtual events there 18:24:44 how do we go about setting that up? 18:24:51 Interesting. If I'm not wrong is also going to be around the time of Diwali in India 18:24:59 Lots of fireworks! 18:25:46 14th November 18:25:59 nice 18:27:47 I love seeing how different cultures traditions overlap. It is the changing of the seasons, makes sense to celebrate :D 18:28:16 so, real quick, before the meeting ends 18:28:20 how do we get a new repo set up? 18:28:34 git init? 18:28:50 On Pagure? 18:29:02 let me research it, I need it to update some commops things 18:29:35 We have to sent the call for RPs, it's part of our dutties 18:30:03 https://pagure.io/new 18:30:07 #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRdeqBJATwU 18:30:46 Sorry, wrong ink it was on my pastebin 18:30:48 #undo 18:30:55 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-mindshare-tasks.html 18:30:56 thanks sayak++ 18:31:18 who wants to open the new repo? :) 18:31:19 Project namespaces :) 18:31:26 virtual-events 18:31:31 Also, be careful, you need to create the project under the team you want to create it 18:31:37 I dont have access to the namespace though 18:31:55 I create a repo called toolbox and for mistake I created it directly over the pagure root 18:31:58 ah, I do 18:32:52 Back to Telegram now. Hexchat has some theming issues fir to rich I can't set what I'm typing in! 😅 18:32:56 hmm Default Branch 18:33:11 what would that be 18:33:13 Awesome!! 18:33:24 the same, virtual-events? 18:33:55 primary or maybe virtual-events 18:34:31 I wouldn't recommend using the traditional "master" naming convention 18:34:38 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-mindshare/virtual-events/issues 18:35:15 done :D 18:35:22 needs some love, but the basis is there 18:35:48 Awesome! It just needs a README now 18:36:00 Ahh 18:36:07 I see it's already there 18:36:22 cool :) 18:36:36 Should we create a label for release parties? 18:36:53 yes, definitely, and also fedora women's day 18:36:58 yeah and a ticket template 18:37:09 I can make the labels 18:37:53 How do ticket templates work on Pagure? Same as GitHub/GitLab? 18:39:10 @Bugsmith -> https://docs.pagure.org/pagure/usage/ticket_templates.html 18:39:20 Thanks! 18:39:26 hhlp++ 18:39:29 you're welcome 18:39:39 hhlp++ 18:39:54 bugsmith, are you going to work on a template for us? :D 18:40:06 Sure. 18:40:20 I'll send in a PR! ☺️ 18:42:22 thank you! 18:42:26 ok, we are way over time 18:42:31 thanks everyone! have a great day 18:42:33 :D 18:42:35 #endmeeting