17:29:13 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Mindshare
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17:29:13 <riecatnor> #chair bt0dotninja codeblock tyll hhlp nb pbokoc riecatnor x3mboy tatica siddharthvipul1 duffy mizmo
17:29:13 <riecatnor> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
17:29:13 <riecatnor> #topic Hello
17:29:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: bt0dotninja codeblock duffy hhlp mizmo nb pbokoc riecatnor siddharthvipul1 tatica tyll x3mboy
17:29:22 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor
17:29:23 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
17:29:45 <riecatnor> whose here today?
17:30:15 <bt0> fine thanks for ask :)
17:30:19 <x3mboy> .hello2
17:30:21 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
17:30:24 <x3mboy> I'm here
17:30:56 <riecatnor> bt0, you beat me to it hehe
17:31:00 <riecatnor> glad to hear you are well :)
17:31:23 <riecatnor> I think I started a minute early, so I will just wait a min to see if more people are here
17:31:46 <pbokoc> I'm here but I need to step out for 10 min, brb
17:32:27 * mizmo waves
17:32:34 <riecatnor> hiya mizmo !
17:33:07 <bt0> o/ mizmo++
17:33:07 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for duffy changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:33:14 <riecatnor> since we are saying hello, let's welcome mizmo ! the latest addition to the mindshare committee. mizmo is representing the design team :)
17:33:17 <x3mboy> @mizmo hey!!! Welcome
17:33:34 <riecatnor> mizmo++
17:33:34 <zodbot> riecatnor: Karma for duffy changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:34:13 <mizmo> thanks :-)
17:34:28 <riecatnor> #topic announcements
17:35:20 <riecatnor> #info Community Outreach Revamp Objective open to commentary before council votes
17:35:23 <riecatnor> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-objective-proposal-community-outreach-revamp/25928
17:35:50 <riecatnor> if mindshare folks could visit the link and simply vote, press a like button, or care to leave a comment, please do!
17:36:46 <riecatnor> #info We are playing tetris at the Fedora social hour tomorrow (early time this week). Tomorrow at 3pm UTC.
17:36:47 <riecatnor> #link https://app.element.io/#/room/#fedora-social-hour:matrix.org
17:37:23 <tg-fedmindshare> <S​iddharthVipul> Hey people :)
17:37:31 <tg-fedmindshare> <S​iddharthVipul> Welcome mizmo
17:37:32 <riecatnor> #info The design team is starting live design sessions, led by mizmo! Starting next week
17:37:46 <bt0> awesome
17:38:13 <riecatnor> #link https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/design/2021/1/20/#m9895
17:38:24 <riecatnor> hiya siddharthvipul !
17:38:36 <tg-fedmindshare> <S​iddharthVipul> :D
17:38:41 <mizmo> more details here: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=9512&preview=1&_ppp=8b201c2fa7 (will be published tomm)
17:38:43 <riecatnor> Those are all the announcements I can think of... anything else?
17:38:55 <riecatnor> rad!
17:39:23 <riecatnor> really excited for the design live sessions
17:39:54 <riecatnor> mizmo, just curious, do you have something planned for the first session?
17:40:43 <mizmo> @riecatnor - yes! brainstorming for the F35 wallpaper visuals. Our inspiration is the work of Mae Jemison, the astronaut and doctor
17:40:57 <riecatnor> niceeee. I will be there :D
17:41:11 <mizmo> one of my interns also might be presenting sketches / ideas for the Fedora character design revamp project
17:41:33 <riecatnor> Cool, I am going to make sure Ella knows about it as well
17:41:42 <riecatnor> #topic tickets
17:42:42 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/217
17:43:17 <riecatnor> This is mostly an update.. video edits are in the works by thunderbirdtr and I *finally* made the cover slides for both the release party and fwd as I promised ;)
17:43:48 <riecatnor> Once we get the vids up, it will be nice to write up a blog post for the commblog
17:44:01 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor++
17:44:14 <riecatnor> Anyone up for doing a short write up on the release party?
17:45:17 <riecatnor> that's ok, we don't need it right away. Let's revisit when the videos are up
17:45:34 <riecatnor> #help need someone to write up a short post for commblog on F33 Release Party
17:46:04 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/241
17:46:40 <riecatnor> x3mboy is going to stay on until the end of this release cycle, and will then retire
17:47:42 <riecatnor> mizmo has entered mid-cycle, with no specific end date. mizmo, as there is no process for this in the design team, and you are volunteering, please feel free to bring to us when you are feeling you've put in all you can, or circumstances change for you and you are unable to participate
17:48:12 <mizmo> sure thing
17:48:30 <mizmo> oh i do have to jet at the top of the hour for another weekly meeting, but i can otherwise make this time each week
17:48:35 <mizmo> just the first 30 min if thatsok
17:48:46 <riecatnor> That works fine :)
17:49:03 <riecatnor> I will comment on this ticket, we have a PR associated with it, but I think it will need to be changed based on this
17:49:07 <riecatnor> pbokoc, back
17:49:08 <riecatnor> ?
17:49:26 <pbokoc> just got back :)
17:49:31 * pbokoc reads
17:49:39 <pbokoc> oh! So I guess I should revert that, huh
17:49:55 <riecatnor> :) sorry bout that
17:50:38 <pbokoc> np, it's like 2 commands :)
17:51:24 <pbokoc> done, the change should be visible in ~30 min
17:51:33 <riecatnor> thanks pbokoc !
17:51:36 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/249
17:52:02 <riecatnor> I have already +1'ed this idea, please go ahead and vote
17:52:30 <mizmo> oooh awesome!
17:52:33 <riecatnor> This will be an addition to our swag offering and will go in various swag shipments
17:53:22 <riecatnor> mizmo, if you want to give your input, should we print them round or square based on the design?
17:53:58 <bt0> well, maybe we need a loot more of that stickers. D&I is very a dynamic SIG
17:54:10 <mizmo> riecatnor: i have a slight preference for the square (or rounded square) over the circle
17:54:22 <riecatnor> I am down for square!
17:54:38 <mizmo> do we vote via thumbs up or +1 new comment?
17:54:55 <riecatnor> +1 with a comment, and any additional thoughts (square sticker preference)
17:54:56 <thunderbirdtr> mizmo, thumbs-up are cleaner...
17:55:06 <riecatnor> thunderbirdtr, we usually do a comment :)
17:55:17 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, ok
17:55:55 <riecatnor> as long as we don't get any -1's, I will go ahead and order those after our next meeting
17:57:07 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/242
17:58:06 <riecatnor> so this is relatively "new" as in we have yet to discuss it in a meeting
17:58:31 <mizmo> oh this is a good idea. we recently had an irc issue getting an admin
17:58:38 <thunderbirdtr> I added matrix one and I will add all other telegram channels under "community" managed one
17:59:00 <thunderbirdtr> mizmo, I searched too but never found it.
17:59:03 <riecatnor> Where does IRC fit into these categories?
17:59:25 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, Official one
17:59:26 <riecatnor> Seems like our IRC whole thing is "official"
17:59:55 <bt0> Mostly yes
18:00:20 <mizmo> theres admin per channel and also #fedora- namespace level
18:00:23 <riecatnor> There is also the question of who is the admin now, I think there was a council ticket on this
18:01:02 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/322
18:01:20 <thunderbirdtr> I would say zodbot manage all :))
18:01:52 <riecatnor> Hmmmm. Maybe IRC needs it's own table on that page.
18:02:14 <riecatnor> Should we just choose one main IRC channel or is listing them out something we feel would be benficial?
18:02:18 <riecatnor> beneficial*
18:02:43 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicating_and_getting_help#IRC_for_interactive_community_support
18:02:55 <thunderbirdtr> they all here I think...
18:03:14 <riecatnor> copy and paste? ;) or add a link?
18:03:20 <pbokoc> IRC channels aren't really discoverable so we should list them
18:03:30 <riecatnor> pbokoc++
18:03:35 <riecatnor> good point
18:04:10 <x3mboy> Hexchat have a function to list IRC channels
18:04:10 <pbokoc> link is fine I think, there's no need to duplicate information. FYI we're planning to move that page out of the wiki so we'll need to update that link sometime soon.
18:04:11 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, well I can do both :)) and lazy way is "link" but they all there with client and all sort of stuff...
18:04:26 <pbokoc> ( https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/council-docs/issue/101 )
18:04:27 <x3mboy> I always assume that it was part of the IRC protocol
18:04:53 <riecatnor> cool, happy to hear more is moving to docs :)
18:05:14 <pbokoc> x3mboy, it depends on the server I think. FreeNode allows you to search channels, but that's kinda... obscure
18:05:16 <riecatnor> ok, so, let's add in one "IRC" entry, link to the list of all the channels. Add in the admins from the council ticket
18:06:07 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, can we also remove "google+" as well ?
18:06:07 <x3mboy> pbokoc: Mmmm ... Interesting
18:06:24 <thunderbirdtr> since It is dead ? and remove retired one as well (just keep active ones)
18:07:07 <riecatnor> hmmmm, thunderbirdtr, I see your point, it's not longer active. But there may be some historical things there?
18:07:15 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, wiki history ?
18:07:21 <riecatnor> We could make a secondary page, retired accounts
18:07:33 <riecatnor> Or just add a section
18:07:41 <thunderbirdtr> bottom section ok
18:08:03 <riecatnor> sounds good to me
18:08:09 <bt0> +1
18:08:47 <riecatnor> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/248
18:08:49 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, for IRC I can open a section and copy/paste all with infos but on top of it. I'll add "clients" as well. so easy to install and easy to join
18:09:48 <riecatnor> thunderbirdtr, works!
18:09:58 <riecatnor> here is a summary of what we will need for the FOSDEM booth:
18:09:59 <riecatnor> - A spot on our exhibition website (stands.fosdem.org).
18:09:59 <riecatnor> - A Matrix chatroom.
18:09:59 <riecatnor> - A place to store video's.
18:10:40 <riecatnor> I have the budapest video I can add, as well as a couple others, once we get the proper link
18:10:54 <riecatnor> Matrix chatroom we will have no problem navigating once they get us the info
18:11:19 <riecatnor> It does seem we need to stand up a website using Hugo
18:11:21 <riecatnor> The exhibition website is a static site generated by hugo (gohugo.io). We have set the theme >and the structure, and you can add as many pages as you want. The code for the website >currently lives at https://github.com/FOSDEM/stands-website . Documentation will be added >shortly (and will be communicated via the list).
18:11:59 <riecatnor> fyi, marianab wanted to be here but she is busy at work rn
18:12:03 <bt0> awesome
18:12:59 <riecatnor> I will share this info with mattdm & bcotton as well to see if they have some thoughts about what content they think should be on our page(s)
18:13:06 <bt0> maybe we can take turns
18:13:23 <riecatnor> bt0, take turns?
18:13:37 <x3mboy> When it will be?
18:13:55 <pbokoc> Feb 6-Feb 7 x3mboy
18:13:58 <bt0> shifts sorry
18:14:34 <x3mboy> It will be super hard for me to be there
18:14:49 <riecatnor> x3mboy, I don't think we need to focus as much on staffing a booth for the entirety of the event
18:15:00 <riecatnor> as we have seen, virtual conference chats aren't that successful
18:15:09 <riecatnor> unless someone has seen something done differently?
18:15:24 <riecatnor> I think we do well in HopIn as the fedora community because we all know each other very well :)
18:15:59 <riecatnor> I think the first thing to focus on is what do we want to put up, and standing up the webpages for that
18:16:34 <riecatnor> Anyone have ideas for what to put on the pages for FOSDEM? I have a couple
18:16:45 <riecatnor> Changes implemented in F33, and upcoming changes for F34
18:16:50 <x3mboy> No, I agree with the sense that chat is not the best platform in virtual events
18:16:56 <x3mboy> But we can do a live q&a
18:17:03 <bt0> right
18:17:08 <riecatnor> I was thinking the same x3mboy, if we choose a specific time
18:17:21 <riecatnor> a Fedora AMA with mattdm?
18:17:22 <bt0> I think we can add links to the Join SIG
18:17:40 <riecatnor> bt0 great idea!
18:17:53 <bt0> the technical and community changes are good idea too
18:18:02 <thunderbirdtr> btrfs !!
18:18:09 <riecatnor> I think it would be nice to put up the mindshare team infographics
18:18:36 <riecatnor> Maybe a page on all of our virtual events & the social hour?
18:19:07 <thunderbirdtr> Put all social links to reach us.... and events and such
18:19:19 <thunderbirdtr> Don't forget Fedora magazine as well
18:19:24 <riecatnor> One last idea I had, is to do a swag giveaway to the first 50 visitors to our booth
18:19:24 <thunderbirdtr> People really like it....
18:19:38 <riecatnor> 50 on the first day, 50 on the second
18:19:53 <bt0> omg swag :)
18:19:57 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, can I join now ?
18:19:57 <bt0> yeah good idea
18:19:58 <riecatnor> i talked with siddharthvipul about creating a limesurvey to gather the info correctly
18:20:06 <thunderbirdtr> like now ? :) I want swag :=)
18:20:13 <riecatnor> well, my thought is it would be nice to give the swag to *non*-fedorans
18:20:16 <riecatnor> :P
18:20:25 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, I want some "fedorans" one then :))
18:20:29 <thunderbirdtr> extra secret ones
18:20:30 <thunderbirdtr> :)
18:20:30 <riecatnor> I have some swag programs I am scheming up for our contributors this year :)
18:20:45 <riecatnor> so do we want to swag to go to only non-fedorans?
18:20:52 <thunderbirdtr> +1 yes
18:20:54 <riecatnor> I think the idea is to get it out there !!
18:21:01 <riecatnor> I will send more swag to fedora folks later on
18:21:25 <pbokoc> I have zero experience with sending out swag - if it's reasonably... manageable, I guess, then it's a good idea. But how does it work when you want to send stuff somewhere really far away? I'm assuming it's being sent from the US
18:21:25 <riecatnor> ok, I will wrap up all the ideas we had here and add them in as a comment on the ticket
18:21:34 <riecatnor> pbokoc, I am a pro now :P
18:21:40 <pbokoc> last summer I spent like 4 months waiting for a package from Indiana sent through USPS
18:21:46 <riecatnor> I did worldwide shipments for Nest
18:21:53 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, and you sent me twice
18:21:59 <x3mboy> +1
18:22:10 <pbokoc> alright then, if it's tested and works fine then +1 for swag giveaways :)
18:22:14 <riecatnor> woohoo!
18:22:16 <bt0> +1
18:22:20 <thunderbirdtr> +1
18:22:33 <riecatnor> cool
18:22:43 <riecatnor> We need to stay on top of this one tho, it will come up fast
18:22:49 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, mentioned he has used hugo
18:23:01 <riecatnor> not sure if he is still with us tho :P
18:23:22 <riecatnor> #topic open floor
18:23:45 <riecatnor> what did everyone eat for lunch today?
18:23:55 <riecatnor> I just ate a burger, and it was pretty great
18:24:08 <x3mboy> Chicken with vegetables
18:24:09 <riecatnor> (or dinner)
18:24:18 <riecatnor> yumm, what seasoning x3mboy ?
18:24:42 <pbokoc> I had a burger yesterday for dinner and regretted it. I don't know why I order these things, every burger shop in this town makes them so big you can't eat them without unhinging your jaw like an anaconda
18:24:42 <x3mboy> It was gooood!!!!
18:24:53 <riecatnor> lol, pbokoc
18:24:58 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, Pasta al pomodoro and soup
18:25:10 <riecatnor> pbokoc, I guess leftovers are a foreign concept?
18:25:32 <riecatnor> Ahhh, love me some pasta :)
18:25:37 <x3mboy> <riecatnor "yumm, what seasoning x3mboy ?"> Onion, Garlic and peppers
18:25:43 <riecatnor> do only Americans do leftovers? idk lol
18:25:55 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, It is home made so I can make for you too :)
18:25:55 <riecatnor> Ok, x3mboy I am on the way for leftovers
18:25:59 <tg-fedmindshare> <Alessio> Which pasta? thunderbirdtr :-)
18:26:09 <pbokoc> riecatnor, leftover burger? I'd have to take the patty out, reheat it separately, and then put it back in, and that's way too much for leftovers :-D But it's not even about that, it's about the physical size. You can't eat them without making a mess
18:26:22 <x3mboy> Well, if Lana (my dog) left you something xD
18:26:29 <riecatnor> pbokoc, oh I know, you can't put the burger down once you pick it up or it all falls apart!
18:26:30 <thunderbirdtr> Alessio : spaghetti ones
18:26:43 <tg-fedmindshare> <Alessio> Yummy
18:26:46 <riecatnor> hahah I bet you Lana did not leave me a crumb haha
18:27:04 <riecatnor> Now I might need to make noodles for dinner
18:27:12 <riecatnor> :P
18:27:20 <riecatnor> any Fedora related things to bring up?
18:27:22 <pbokoc> hmm, egg fried noodles sounds great right now
18:27:25 <x3mboy> In my house we usually use that for seasoning, since my son needed to avoid powders and chemical seasons
18:27:26 <riecatnor> oh dang
18:27:38 <riecatnor> x3mboy, probably for the best!
18:27:40 <x3mboy> <pbokoc "hmm, egg fried noodles sounds gr"> Indeed
18:27:42 <thunderbirdtr> Fedora means foods as well so we're on topic already
18:27:44 <thunderbirdtr> :)
18:28:05 <riecatnor> food is one of those universal things like fedora :D
18:28:05 <thunderbirdtr> Even redhat has some sort of "burger" company nobody know about it in serbia
18:28:25 <x3mboy> <riecatnor "x3mboy, probably for the best!"> Sure, it's super healthy and it taste really good
18:28:31 <pbokoc> oh yeah, and there was a Pizza Hat with the old Shadowman logo in... Iran, I think?
18:28:32 <x3mboy> > <@freenode_riecatnor:matrix.org> x3mboy, probably for the best!
18:28:32 <x3mboy> * Sure, it's super healthy and it tastes really good
18:28:44 <x3mboy> I need a Salame pizza with bacon
18:28:46 <riecatnor> One day, we need to have an in person pot luck
18:28:53 <riecatnor> the great fedora bake off
18:29:11 <thunderbirdtr> riecatnor, new "community drive bake project" ? :)
18:29:14 <thunderbirdtr> fedora-bake-sig ?
18:29:14 <thunderbirdtr> :)
18:29:16 <riecatnor> lol, x3mboy need the pizza to make up for all the healthy food? lol
18:29:25 <thunderbirdtr> driven*
18:29:30 <x3mboy> riecatnor:
18:29:34 <pbokoc> I'm not much of a baker but I can make a killer goulash
18:29:39 <x3mboy> * riecatnor: No, just because it taste really good
18:29:44 <misc> with arsenic ?
18:29:52 <x3mboy> Also, I'm not super healthy when eating
18:30:14 <riecatnor> lol
18:30:16 <thunderbirdtr> pbokoc, "killer" part must be very dangerous
18:30:25 <thunderbirdtr> I'm gonna stay away from that
18:30:26 <misc> x3mboy: I heard that not eating is also hardly healthy, so we can't really win :(
18:30:27 <riecatnor> hahahah
18:30:31 <x3mboy> And since my son doesn't have the condition anymore, we can eat everything we want, we just keep the way of cooking, but we eat everything
18:30:58 <riecatnor> I have to say, living on my own, I have done my part to support local food economy
18:31:02 <x3mboy> <misc "x3mboy: I heard that not eating "> Pretty sure isn't healthy
18:31:25 <x3mboy> Well, I need to run
18:31:27 <riecatnor> Trying to keep restaurants open through the pandemic :P
18:31:33 <riecatnor> hope everyone has a great week! Thanks for coming
18:31:37 <x3mboy> I will be around
18:31:40 <x3mboy> See ya!
18:31:47 <riecatnor> ya'll are the best!
18:31:49 <riecatnor> #endmeeting