17:29:13 #startmeeting Mindshare 17:29:13 Meeting started Wed Jan 13 17:29:13 2021 UTC. 17:29:13 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:29:13 The chair is riecatnor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:29:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:29:13 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 17:29:13 #meetingname Mindshare 17:29:13 The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 17:29:13 #chair bt0dotninja codeblock tyll hhlp nb pbokoc riecatnor x3mboy tatica siddharthvipul1 duffy mizmo 17:29:13 #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/ 17:29:13 #topic Hello 17:29:13 Current chairs: bt0dotninja codeblock duffy hhlp mizmo nb pbokoc riecatnor siddharthvipul1 tatica tyll x3mboy 17:29:22 .hello riecatnor 17:29:23 riecatnor: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' 17:29:45 whose here today? 17:30:15 fine thanks for ask :) 17:30:19 .hello2 17:30:21 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 17:30:24 I'm here 17:30:56 bt0, you beat me to it hehe 17:31:00 glad to hear you are well :) 17:31:23 I think I started a minute early, so I will just wait a min to see if more people are here 17:31:46 I'm here but I need to step out for 10 min, brb 17:32:27 * mizmo waves 17:32:34 hiya mizmo ! 17:33:07 o/ mizmo++ 17:33:07 bt0: Karma for duffy changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:33:14 since we are saying hello, let's welcome mizmo ! the latest addition to the mindshare committee. mizmo is representing the design team :) 17:33:17 @mizmo hey!!! Welcome 17:33:34 mizmo++ 17:33:34 riecatnor: Karma for duffy changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:34:13 thanks :-) 17:34:28 #topic announcements 17:35:20 #info Community Outreach Revamp Objective open to commentary before council votes 17:35:23 #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-objective-proposal-community-outreach-revamp/25928 17:35:50 if mindshare folks could visit the link and simply vote, press a like button, or care to leave a comment, please do! 17:36:46 #info We are playing tetris at the Fedora social hour tomorrow (early time this week). Tomorrow at 3pm UTC. 17:36:47 #link https://app.element.io/#/room/#fedora-social-hour:matrix.org 17:37:23 Hey people :) 17:37:31 Welcome mizmo 17:37:32 #info The design team is starting live design sessions, led by mizmo! Starting next week 17:37:46 awesome 17:38:13 #link https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/design/2021/1/20/#m9895 17:38:24 hiya siddharthvipul ! 17:38:36 :D 17:38:41 more details here: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=9512&preview=1&_ppp=8b201c2fa7 (will be published tomm) 17:38:43 Those are all the announcements I can think of... anything else? 17:38:55 rad! 17:39:23 really excited for the design live sessions 17:39:54 mizmo, just curious, do you have something planned for the first session? 17:40:43 @riecatnor - yes! brainstorming for the F35 wallpaper visuals. Our inspiration is the work of Mae Jemison, the astronaut and doctor 17:40:57 niceeee. I will be there :D 17:41:11 one of my interns also might be presenting sketches / ideas for the Fedora character design revamp project 17:41:33 Cool, I am going to make sure Ella knows about it as well 17:41:42 #topic tickets 17:42:42 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/217 17:43:17 This is mostly an update.. video edits are in the works by thunderbirdtr and I *finally* made the cover slides for both the release party and fwd as I promised ;) 17:43:48 Once we get the vids up, it will be nice to write up a blog post for the commblog 17:44:01 riecatnor++ 17:44:14 Anyone up for doing a short write up on the release party? 17:45:17 that's ok, we don't need it right away. Let's revisit when the videos are up 17:45:34 #help need someone to write up a short post for commblog on F33 Release Party 17:46:04 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/241 17:46:40 x3mboy is going to stay on until the end of this release cycle, and will then retire 17:47:42 mizmo has entered mid-cycle, with no specific end date. mizmo, as there is no process for this in the design team, and you are volunteering, please feel free to bring to us when you are feeling you've put in all you can, or circumstances change for you and you are unable to participate 17:48:12 sure thing 17:48:30 oh i do have to jet at the top of the hour for another weekly meeting, but i can otherwise make this time each week 17:48:35 just the first 30 min if thatsok 17:48:46 That works fine :) 17:49:03 I will comment on this ticket, we have a PR associated with it, but I think it will need to be changed based on this 17:49:07 pbokoc, back 17:49:08 ? 17:49:26 just got back :) 17:49:31 * pbokoc reads 17:49:39 oh! So I guess I should revert that, huh 17:49:55 :) sorry bout that 17:50:38 np, it's like 2 commands :) 17:51:24 done, the change should be visible in ~30 min 17:51:33 thanks pbokoc ! 17:51:36 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/249 17:52:02 I have already +1'ed this idea, please go ahead and vote 17:52:30 oooh awesome! 17:52:33 This will be an addition to our swag offering and will go in various swag shipments 17:53:22 mizmo, if you want to give your input, should we print them round or square based on the design? 17:53:58 well, maybe we need a loot more of that stickers. D&I is very a dynamic SIG 17:54:10 riecatnor: i have a slight preference for the square (or rounded square) over the circle 17:54:22 I am down for square! 17:54:38 do we vote via thumbs up or +1 new comment? 17:54:55 +1 with a comment, and any additional thoughts (square sticker preference) 17:54:56 mizmo, thumbs-up are cleaner... 17:55:06 thunderbirdtr, we usually do a comment :) 17:55:17 riecatnor, ok 17:55:55 as long as we don't get any -1's, I will go ahead and order those after our next meeting 17:57:07 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/242 17:58:06 so this is relatively "new" as in we have yet to discuss it in a meeting 17:58:31 oh this is a good idea. we recently had an irc issue getting an admin 17:58:38 I added matrix one and I will add all other telegram channels under "community" managed one 17:59:00 mizmo, I searched too but never found it. 17:59:03 Where does IRC fit into these categories? 17:59:25 riecatnor, Official one 17:59:26 Seems like our IRC whole thing is "official" 17:59:55 Mostly yes 18:00:20 theres admin per channel and also #fedora- namespace level 18:00:23 There is also the question of who is the admin now, I think there was a council ticket on this 18:01:02 #link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/322 18:01:20 I would say zodbot manage all :)) 18:01:52 Hmmmm. Maybe IRC needs it's own table on that page. 18:02:14 Should we just choose one main IRC channel or is listing them out something we feel would be benficial? 18:02:18 beneficial* 18:02:43 riecatnor, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicating_and_getting_help#IRC_for_interactive_community_support 18:02:55 they all here I think... 18:03:14 copy and paste? ;) or add a link? 18:03:20 IRC channels aren't really discoverable so we should list them 18:03:30 pbokoc++ 18:03:35 good point 18:04:10 Hexchat have a function to list IRC channels 18:04:10 link is fine I think, there's no need to duplicate information. FYI we're planning to move that page out of the wiki so we'll need to update that link sometime soon. 18:04:11 riecatnor, well I can do both :)) and lazy way is "link" but they all there with client and all sort of stuff... 18:04:26 ( https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/council-docs/issue/101 ) 18:04:27 I always assume that it was part of the IRC protocol 18:04:53 cool, happy to hear more is moving to docs :) 18:05:14 x3mboy, it depends on the server I think. FreeNode allows you to search channels, but that's kinda... obscure 18:05:16 ok, so, let's add in one "IRC" entry, link to the list of all the channels. Add in the admins from the council ticket 18:06:07 riecatnor, can we also remove "google+" as well ? 18:06:07 pbokoc: Mmmm ... Interesting 18:06:24 since It is dead ? and remove retired one as well (just keep active ones) 18:07:07 hmmmm, thunderbirdtr, I see your point, it's not longer active. But there may be some historical things there? 18:07:15 riecatnor, wiki history ? 18:07:21 We could make a secondary page, retired accounts 18:07:33 Or just add a section 18:07:41 bottom section ok 18:08:03 sounds good to me 18:08:09 +1 18:08:47 #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/248 18:08:49 riecatnor, for IRC I can open a section and copy/paste all with infos but on top of it. I'll add "clients" as well. so easy to install and easy to join 18:09:48 thunderbirdtr, works! 18:09:58 here is a summary of what we will need for the FOSDEM booth: 18:09:59 - A spot on our exhibition website (stands.fosdem.org). 18:09:59 - A Matrix chatroom. 18:09:59 - A place to store video's. 18:10:40 I have the budapest video I can add, as well as a couple others, once we get the proper link 18:10:54 Matrix chatroom we will have no problem navigating once they get us the info 18:11:19 It does seem we need to stand up a website using Hugo 18:11:21 The exhibition website is a static site generated by hugo (gohugo.io). We have set the theme >and the structure, and you can add as many pages as you want. The code for the website >currently lives at https://github.com/FOSDEM/stands-website . Documentation will be added >shortly (and will be communicated via the list). 18:11:59 fyi, marianab wanted to be here but she is busy at work rn 18:12:03 awesome 18:12:59 I will share this info with mattdm & bcotton as well to see if they have some thoughts about what content they think should be on our page(s) 18:13:06 maybe we can take turns 18:13:23 bt0, take turns? 18:13:37 When it will be? 18:13:55 Feb 6-Feb 7 x3mboy 18:13:58 shifts sorry 18:14:34 It will be super hard for me to be there 18:14:49 x3mboy, I don't think we need to focus as much on staffing a booth for the entirety of the event 18:15:00 as we have seen, virtual conference chats aren't that successful 18:15:09 unless someone has seen something done differently? 18:15:24 I think we do well in HopIn as the fedora community because we all know each other very well :) 18:15:59 I think the first thing to focus on is what do we want to put up, and standing up the webpages for that 18:16:34 Anyone have ideas for what to put on the pages for FOSDEM? I have a couple 18:16:45 Changes implemented in F33, and upcoming changes for F34 18:16:50 No, I agree with the sense that chat is not the best platform in virtual events 18:16:56 But we can do a live q&a 18:17:03 right 18:17:08 I was thinking the same x3mboy, if we choose a specific time 18:17:21 a Fedora AMA with mattdm? 18:17:22 I think we can add links to the Join SIG 18:17:40 bt0 great idea! 18:17:53 the technical and community changes are good idea too 18:18:02 btrfs !! 18:18:09 I think it would be nice to put up the mindshare team infographics 18:18:36 Maybe a page on all of our virtual events & the social hour? 18:19:07 Put all social links to reach us.... and events and such 18:19:19 Don't forget Fedora magazine as well 18:19:24 One last idea I had, is to do a swag giveaway to the first 50 visitors to our booth 18:19:24 People really like it.... 18:19:38 50 on the first day, 50 on the second 18:19:53 omg swag :) 18:19:57 riecatnor, can I join now ? 18:19:57 yeah good idea 18:19:58 i talked with siddharthvipul about creating a limesurvey to gather the info correctly 18:20:06 like now ? :) I want swag :=) 18:20:13 well, my thought is it would be nice to give the swag to *non*-fedorans 18:20:16 :P 18:20:25 riecatnor, I want some "fedorans" one then :)) 18:20:29 extra secret ones 18:20:30 :) 18:20:30 I have some swag programs I am scheming up for our contributors this year :) 18:20:45 so do we want to swag to go to only non-fedorans? 18:20:52 +1 yes 18:20:54 I think the idea is to get it out there !! 18:21:01 I will send more swag to fedora folks later on 18:21:25 I have zero experience with sending out swag - if it's reasonably... manageable, I guess, then it's a good idea. But how does it work when you want to send stuff somewhere really far away? I'm assuming it's being sent from the US 18:21:25 ok, I will wrap up all the ideas we had here and add them in as a comment on the ticket 18:21:34 pbokoc, I am a pro now :P 18:21:40 last summer I spent like 4 months waiting for a package from Indiana sent through USPS 18:21:46 I did worldwide shipments for Nest 18:21:53 riecatnor, and you sent me twice 18:21:59 +1 18:22:10 alright then, if it's tested and works fine then +1 for swag giveaways :) 18:22:14 woohoo! 18:22:16 +1 18:22:20 +1 18:22:33 cool 18:22:43 We need to stay on top of this one tho, it will come up fast 18:22:49 siddharthvipul, mentioned he has used hugo 18:23:01 not sure if he is still with us tho :P 18:23:22 #topic open floor 18:23:45 what did everyone eat for lunch today? 18:23:55 I just ate a burger, and it was pretty great 18:24:08 Chicken with vegetables 18:24:09 (or dinner) 18:24:18 yumm, what seasoning x3mboy ? 18:24:42 I had a burger yesterday for dinner and regretted it. I don't know why I order these things, every burger shop in this town makes them so big you can't eat them without unhinging your jaw like an anaconda 18:24:42 It was gooood!!!! 18:24:53 lol, pbokoc 18:24:58 riecatnor, Pasta al pomodoro and soup 18:25:10 pbokoc, I guess leftovers are a foreign concept? 18:25:32 Ahhh, love me some pasta :) 18:25:37 Onion, Garlic and peppers 18:25:43 do only Americans do leftovers? idk lol 18:25:55 riecatnor, It is home made so I can make for you too :) 18:25:55 Ok, x3mboy I am on the way for leftovers 18:25:59 Which pasta? thunderbirdtr :-) 18:26:09 riecatnor, leftover burger? I'd have to take the patty out, reheat it separately, and then put it back in, and that's way too much for leftovers :-D But it's not even about that, it's about the physical size. You can't eat them without making a mess 18:26:22 Well, if Lana (my dog) left you something xD 18:26:29 pbokoc, oh I know, you can't put the burger down once you pick it up or it all falls apart! 18:26:30 Alessio : spaghetti ones 18:26:43 Yummy 18:26:46 hahah I bet you Lana did not leave me a crumb haha 18:27:04 Now I might need to make noodles for dinner 18:27:12 :P 18:27:20 any Fedora related things to bring up? 18:27:22 hmm, egg fried noodles sounds great right now 18:27:25 In my house we usually use that for seasoning, since my son needed to avoid powders and chemical seasons 18:27:26 oh dang 18:27:38 x3mboy, probably for the best! 18:27:40 Indeed 18:27:42 Fedora means foods as well so we're on topic already 18:27:44 :) 18:28:05 food is one of those universal things like fedora :D 18:28:05 Even redhat has some sort of "burger" company nobody know about it in serbia 18:28:25 Sure, it's super healthy and it taste really good 18:28:31 oh yeah, and there was a Pizza Hat with the old Shadowman logo in... Iran, I think? 18:28:32 > <@freenode_riecatnor:matrix.org> x3mboy, probably for the best! 18:28:32 * Sure, it's super healthy and it tastes really good 18:28:44 I need a Salame pizza with bacon 18:28:46 One day, we need to have an in person pot luck 18:28:53 the great fedora bake off 18:29:11 riecatnor, new "community drive bake project" ? :) 18:29:14 fedora-bake-sig ? 18:29:14 :) 18:29:16 lol, x3mboy need the pizza to make up for all the healthy food? lol 18:29:25 driven* 18:29:30 riecatnor: 18:29:34 I'm not much of a baker but I can make a killer goulash 18:29:39 * riecatnor: No, just because it taste really good 18:29:44 with arsenic ? 18:29:52 Also, I'm not super healthy when eating 18:30:14 lol 18:30:16 pbokoc, "killer" part must be very dangerous 18:30:25 I'm gonna stay away from that 18:30:26 x3mboy: I heard that not eating is also hardly healthy, so we can't really win :( 18:30:27 hahahah 18:30:31 And since my son doesn't have the condition anymore, we can eat everything we want, we just keep the way of cooking, but we eat everything 18:30:58 I have to say, living on my own, I have done my part to support local food economy 18:31:02 Pretty sure isn't healthy 18:31:25 Well, I need to run 18:31:27 Trying to keep restaurants open through the pandemic :P 18:31:33 hope everyone has a great week! Thanks for coming 18:31:37 I will be around 18:31:40 See ya! 18:31:47 ya'll are the best! 18:31:49 #endmeeting