12:03:05 <riecatnor[m]> #startmeeting Mindshare
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12:03:11 <riecatnor[m]> #meetingname Mindshare
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12:03:18 <riecatnor[m]> .members mindshare
12:03:19 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: Members of mindshare: nb, riecatnor, bt0dotninja, till, codeblock, duffy, thunderbirdtr, pbokoc, siddharthvipul1
12:04:03 <riecatnor[m]> #chair Alberto Rodríguez Sánchez Máirín Duffy Vipul Siddharth Onuralp Sezer TillMaas nb relrod_
12:04:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: Alberto Duffy Máirín Onuralp Rodríguez Sezer Siddharth Sánchez TillMaas Vipul nb relrod_ riecatnor[m]
12:04:21 <riecatnor[m]> #chair pbokoc
12:04:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: Alberto Duffy Máirín Onuralp Rodríguez Sezer Siddharth Sánchez TillMaas Vipul nb pbokoc relrod_ riecatnor[m]
12:04:24 <riecatnor[m]> oops :)
12:04:33 <riecatnor[m]> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/
12:04:37 <riecatnor[m]> #topic Hello
12:05:12 <riecatnor[m]> good morning/afternoon/evening friends!
12:05:15 <riecatnor[m]> how's everyone doing today?
12:08:35 <VipulSiddharth[m> hey folks,
12:08:35 <VipulSiddharth[m> sorry I just came back home
12:08:44 <VipulSiddharth[m> had my usual swim workout/escape session :P
12:08:45 <riecatnor[m]> hi Vipul Siddharth !
12:08:49 <riecatnor[m]> how was it today??
12:08:59 <VipulSiddharth[m> How are you riecatnor
12:09:13 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh it was good, didn't see dolphins like yesterday but was good swim
12:09:15 <riecatnor[m]> I am doing pretty good so far today, still early tho lol
12:09:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> haha, one day both of us will wake up at the same time.. with possibly one of the furthest timezones 😆
12:09:43 <riecatnor[m]> how close do the dolphins get?
12:10:25 <VipulSiddharth[m> yesterday they were extremely close
12:10:25 <VipulSiddharth[m> I go atleast twice the distance from the shore to swim
12:10:25 <VipulSiddharth[m> very easily you could see them from the beach
12:10:47 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am guessing 150 mtrs at max.. I had never seen them here before
12:10:50 <riecatnor[m]> that's pretty cool
12:11:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> Yeah, I also spotted a jelly fish yesterday.. and then decided enough distance and swam back XD
12:11:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> the ones here are not venomous,, just sting like ant at max
12:11:57 <VipulSiddharth[m> (yet to be stung.. and not looking forward to it regardless lol)
12:12:23 <riecatnor[m]> I have a fear of being in the water with fish 😅😅
12:12:43 <riecatnor[m]> and the look of fish, the scales, give me the creepy chills??
12:12:52 <riecatnor[m]> idk lol I wish it wasnt the case but it does
12:12:56 <VipulSiddharth[m> haha, there is nothing here
12:12:56 <VipulSiddharth[m> very rare sighting of jellyfish
12:12:56 <VipulSiddharth[m> and even rarer these dolphins.. both harmless really
12:13:09 <VipulSiddharth[m> I used to panic too
12:13:09 <VipulSiddharth[m> but I am getting comfortable slowly
12:13:19 <VipulSiddharth[m> you should come here for a vacation :P
12:13:29 <riecatnor[m]> you should come here for a vacation!!
12:13:30 <riecatnor[m]> lol
12:13:40 <riecatnor[m]> so, any one else around today?
12:14:31 <VipulSiddharth[m> I wanted to invite mindshare folks to Fedora Mentor Summit
12:14:31 <VipulSiddharth[m> seeing not a lot of people, I would drop an email to mailing list later in the day
12:14:57 <riecatnor[m]> its too bad, we have some things we need to make decisions about :/
12:15:10 <riecatnor[m]> let me do announcements and info and see if anyone else shows
12:15:18 <riecatnor[m]> #topic announcements and info
12:15:31 <riecatnor[m]> #info Fedora Linux 36 Beta is GO and will release on 2022-03-29
12:15:36 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-03-24/f36-beta-go_no_go-meeting.2022-03-24-17.00.html
12:15:41 <riecatnor[m]> #info get ready to party! Fedora Linux 36 release party registration now open- May 13th & 14th
12:15:46 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/youre-invited-to-the-fedora-linux-36-release-party/
12:15:50 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-36-release-party/registration
12:16:02 <riecatnor[m]> #info we are having Nest with Fedora & Fedora Hatch for 2022 contributor conference, learn more and find out how to get involved on the CommBlog
12:16:07 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-fedora-hatch-announcing-dates-call-for-volunteers/
12:16:13 <riecatnor[m]> #info join and invite others to the Ambassador Kick-Off Call, March 31st at 3PM UTC
12:16:17 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-ambassador-call-kick-off/
12:16:22 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/meeting/10212/
12:16:28 <riecatnor[m]> #info the Fedora Magazine is kicking off a series called "Feature Highlights" - they are taking submissions and want to hear from you!
12:16:33 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/collecting-ideas-for-feature-spotlight-articles/
12:16:38 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/feature-spotlight
12:16:48 <riecatnor[m]> #info Registration for Fedora Mentor Summit open, this week on April 1st & 2nd (no joke!)- feel free to join if you have mentored, are currently mentoring, or want to mentor!
12:16:55 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mentor-summit-is-here/
12:17:01 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-mentor-summit-2022
12:18:37 <riecatnor[m]> #info the DEI team is retiring its mailing list and moving to Discussion
12:18:40 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/dei-team-introductions-say-hi-and-get-to-know-each-other/37860
12:19:16 <riecatnor[m]> #info the Design team is looking for feedback on the F36 wallpaper
12:19:19 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/latest-fedora-36-wallpaper-request-for-feedback/37789
12:20:23 <riecatnor[m]> ok I think thats all I have for announcements/info
12:21:44 <riecatnor[m]> hi Onuralp Sezer here today? :)
12:22:01 * VipulSiddharth[m will be back in a minute
12:22:28 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: o/
12:22:34 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> .hello thunderbirdtr
12:22:35 <zodbot> OnuralpSezer[m]1: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com>
12:22:40 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> .hello2
12:22:41 <zodbot> OnuralpSezer[m]1: Sorry, but user 'OnuralpSezer [m] 1' does not exist
12:23:29 <riecatnor[m]> hullooo, how are you?
12:24:11 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> Hopefully will be happy, based on expected news of yours :)
12:24:35 <VipulSiddharth[m> oh, what's expected 🎅
12:24:57 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> VipulSiddharth[m: Good stuff :)
12:25:13 <VipulSiddharth[m> <3 that's amazing :P
12:25:13 <riecatnor[m]> lol
12:25:38 <riecatnor[m]> so I do have something fun to share today, but we also need to look at a few tickets quickly
12:25:44 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> okay
12:25:45 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> shoot
12:25:45 <VipulSiddharth[m> let's do it
12:25:52 <riecatnor[m]> #topic tickets
12:25:59 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/319
12:26:22 <riecatnor[m]> I think we should vote and if there are no -1 by friday I will go ahead with the sponsorship
12:26:25 <riecatnor[m]> how does that sound?
12:26:46 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> yes -1 based on answer and no-show not worth to spend money
12:26:58 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> s/yes//
12:27:00 <riecatnor[m]> oh, really?
12:27:08 <riecatnor[m]> I mean... I think its good to have the fedora name there
12:27:25 <riecatnor[m]> I am +1 at the supporter level
12:27:28 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: Well, then keep minimum sponsporship ?
12:27:28 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am +1
12:27:28 <VipulSiddharth[m> we have been to this event in past
12:27:28 <VipulSiddharth[m> I think Ben also attends this?
12:27:28 <VipulSiddharth[m> though not sure nowadays what's the plan with covid and stuff
12:27:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> or it was another event he does -- hmm
12:27:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> need to think once
12:27:47 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> > <@siddharthvipul1:fedora.im> I am +1... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/eb9537aaf0fe69f61b1ab12c60c0dee2b747434d)
12:28:01 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> I didn't see that so 🤷‍♂️
12:28:05 <riecatnor[m]> OnuralpSezer[m]1: https://linuxappsummit.org/assets/2022LAS-Brochure.pdf
12:28:15 <riecatnor[m]> supporter gets more mentions, I think its better
12:28:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> Oh it's not about Ben
12:28:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> I was just saying that we have been there before and nice place to have presence
12:28:37 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: Okay
12:28:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> I am +1 usually
12:28:40 <VipulSiddharth[m> even with the idea of supporting good open source focused event
12:29:11 <riecatnor[m]> I also think this is a small amount of money in the scheme of things
12:29:31 <riecatnor[m]> I would like to make sure we make use of the two seats at the sponsors dinner so I will suggest mclasen take that and add one more relevant person
12:29:56 <VipulSiddharth[m> riecatnor[m]: that's great
12:30:04 <riecatnor[m]> please add your votes to the ticket now
12:30:19 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: Is he coming ? I didn't see clear answer of that ?
12:30:23 <VipulSiddharth[m> commented
12:30:48 <riecatnor[m]> I am asking now Onuralp Sezer
12:30:49 <VipulSiddharth[m> If we don't have person 2, we can open the first come first serve ticket on Fedora Discussion for community members to grab
12:31:30 <VipulSiddharth[m> hmm
12:31:31 <VipulSiddharth[m> it also seems a good time to visit Italy XD
12:31:32 <riecatnor[m]> ok, let's move to the next ticket?
12:31:36 <VipulSiddharth[m> sure
12:31:37 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/310
12:32:18 <riecatnor[m]> I think its great to see revived ambassador activity
12:32:26 <riecatnor[m]> I am +1
12:32:34 <riecatnor[m]> we will need to get them one of the event kits we have been working on
12:33:11 <VipulSiddharth[m> that's a lot of budget
12:33:27 <riecatnor[m]> I think we need to reset on the idea of what is a lot or not
12:33:36 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> VipulSiddharth[m: and I can't see that "https://pagure.io/fedora-budget/issue/186" I don't know
12:33:43 <riecatnor[m]> its a swag request
12:33:59 <riecatnor[m]> Fedora has $200k budget per year
12:34:12 <riecatnor[m]> I realize I have not done the best at relaying budget info, that is an area which I could improve
12:34:20 <VipulSiddharth[m> It's great to have though.. maybe it's just because it's the first big in person sponsor we are doing
12:34:30 <riecatnor[m]> I also wonder what it has cost in past years
12:34:33 <VipulSiddharth[m> hmm
12:34:33 <VipulSiddharth[m> did you all see this https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCaLE_19x_Event#Event_Budget
12:34:57 <riecatnor[m]> Yes, I saw it is for $3200
12:35:07 <riecatnor[m]> like I said, I don't think that is a lot in the scheme of our entire budget
12:35:07 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> Could be more this year ?
12:35:10 <riecatnor[m]> I think its worth it absolutely
12:35:18 <VipulSiddharth[m> yeah, might as well start with in person events
12:35:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> let's do it
12:35:21 <VipulSiddharth[m> why not
12:35:47 <riecatnor[m]> this is great too because there are other people organizing the presence, they have also done it for years in the past so they know what they are doing
12:36:06 <riecatnor[m]> there is a "fedora activity day" that gets organized in conjuction or at the event as well
12:36:31 <VipulSiddharth[m> fair
12:36:31 <VipulSiddharth[m> I know scott.. if he is travelling, it would be great
12:36:50 <VipulSiddharth[m> I will comment on the ticket
12:36:53 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> +1 For Swag and budget then ?
12:37:04 <VipulSiddharth[m> I think I will say +1 to both
12:37:10 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> ack
12:37:33 <riecatnor[m]> please add your comments to the ticket :)
12:37:45 <riecatnor[m]> i need to write a bit more, so I will do that after the meeting
12:38:31 <riecatnor[m]> ok, i think those are the most urgent tickets rn
12:38:34 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> done
12:38:56 <riecatnor[m]> #topic mindshare irc telegram bridge - retire or fix?
12:39:00 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> yes
12:39:02 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> retire it
12:39:10 <VipulSiddharth[m> +1 to retire
12:39:24 <VipulSiddharth[m> with element in phone, we remove relying on telegram
12:39:25 <riecatnor[m]> I am neutral, 0
12:39:31 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> because you're using it too :)
12:39:36 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> * too :)  (joke)
12:39:37 <riecatnor[m]> yep :P
12:39:58 <riecatnor[m]> but I think for the good of the project, we should be a model.. so maybe I am actually +1 to retire
12:40:24 <riecatnor[m]> do you think we need a ticket to vote or maybe give some time for people on the telegram side to comment?
12:40:45 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> should I open a ticket in mindshare ?
12:40:50 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> and share with here and there ?
12:40:52 <riecatnor[m]> sure, Onuralp Sezer
12:40:55 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> okay
12:40:56 <riecatnor[m]> that would help
12:40:58 <riecatnor[m]> thank you!
12:41:01 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> yw
12:41:13 <riecatnor[m]> cool
12:41:25 <riecatnor[m]> #topic teeshirt giveaway
12:41:47 <riecatnor[m]> I am working on this and hope to have details out soon
12:42:13 <riecatnor[m]> #topic das keyboards at F36 Release Party & Nest
12:42:24 <riecatnor[m]> so, I have some fun news
12:44:21 <riecatnor[m]> but I wont say it if no one is here :( lol
12:45:02 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/326
12:46:11 <riecatnor[m]> so Matthew and I have been working with Das Keyboards on doing a sponsorship type giveaway- a pair of Fedora keycaps -and we have confirmed that we are doing it!
12:46:54 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> all keys or just replace "super keys" ?
12:46:56 <riecatnor[m]> super keys :)
12:47:05 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> Okay :)
12:47:17 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> I had to try :))
12:47:18 <riecatnor[m]> so here is our plan about how to incorporate this into our events
12:47:20 <riecatnor[m]> May 1-13th - Promotion of Release Party + Das keycap giveaway on Fedora platforms... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/10e05cffb0992122a6596bdb66d46a9705c5466b)
12:47:57 <riecatnor[m]> and I was wondering if people had additional thoughts about how we could improve the plan, make it more successful etc
12:48:08 <riecatnor[m]> I also think it would be great if x3mboy wanted to be involved :)
12:49:19 <riecatnor[m]> also, while it doesnt need to be a sworn secret, please do not announce this info around
12:49:48 <riecatnor[m]> I am including mindshare in order to make things better with our combined brainpower ;)
12:50:25 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> Oh my....  das-keyboard needs to update their copr repo too
12:50:41 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> On their website it is only saying "Ubuntu" but there is a link for "Fedora Copr" is cool but repo is inactive
12:50:58 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> I'm gonna send PR for updating that readme quickly and ask them about updating that copr repo
12:51:10 <riecatnor[m]> that would be awesome, thank you so much!
12:51:16 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> You're welcome
12:51:31 <riecatnor[m]> Vipul Siddharth: any thoughts about the plan?
12:54:07 <VipulSiddharth[m> hey, sorry I am in another meeting
12:54:07 <VipulSiddharth[m> can I read the logs later and get back to it?
12:54:11 <riecatnor[m]> Mindshare peeps- feel free to respond or drop me a message with any ideas/thoughts you have about the Das sponsorship/giveaway
12:54:15 <riecatnor[m]> yep no prob :)
12:54:28 <riecatnor[m]> #topic open floor
12:55:05 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor:  should I open a ticket for you about this or is there already opened one in mindshare ?
12:55:24 <riecatnor[m]> I don't want a public ticket yet? idk lol like i said it is kind of a suprise for now
12:55:30 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> okay
12:55:35 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> no public then
12:55:42 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> guys, close the channel
12:55:45 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> it is all secret
12:55:45 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> :)
12:55:46 <riecatnor[m]> someone would need to be paying clsoe attention to see it here ;)
12:56:17 <riecatnor[m]> and if they do, good for them- hopefully they also keep things hush so when we announce it, its still a surprise for people
12:56:17 <riecatnor[m]> lol
12:56:33 <riecatnor[m]> OnuralpSezer[m]1: 😝
12:56:54 <OnuralpSezer[m]1> riecatnor[m]: "hush"... haha :)) will see
12:57:10 <riecatnor[m]> lol
12:58:20 <riecatnor[m]> ok peeps- thanks for the discussion today.. glad we got through some things. For folks who weren't here today, make sure to vote on those event related tickets so I can coordinate the logistics
12:59:05 <riecatnor[m]> #endmeeting