12:00:10 <riecatnor[m]> #startmeeting Mindshare 12:00:10 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 26 12:00:10 2022 UTC. 12:00:10 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 12:00:10 <zodbot> The chair is riecatnor[m]. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 12:00:10 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:00:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 12:00:14 <riecatnor[m]> .members mindshare 12:00:15 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: Members of mindshare: nb, riecatnor, bt0dotninja, till, codeblock, duffy, thunderbirdtr, pbokoc, siddharthvipul1 12:00:21 <riecatnor[m]> #meetingname Mindshare 12:00:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'mindshare' 12:00:55 <riecatnor[m]> #chair Vipul Siddharth Máirín Duffy tyll nb osezer pbokoc relrod_ 12:00:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: Duffy Máirín Siddharth Vipul nb osezer pbokoc relrod_ riecatnor[m] tyll 12:01:00 <riecatnor[m]> #info About Mindshare: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/mindshare/ 12:01:04 <riecatnor[m]> #topic Hello 12:01:38 <t0xic0der[m]1> .hello t0xic0der 12:01:40 <zodbot> t0xic0der[m]1: t0xic0der 'Akashdeep Dhar' <akashdeep.dhar@gmail.com> 12:01:44 <riecatnor[m]> hey peeps! 12:01:58 <riecatnor[m]> hi t0xic0der ! 12:02:12 <t0xic0der[m]1> Hey there riecatnor :D 12:02:12 <t0xic0der[m]1> How're you doing? 12:02:19 <osezer[m]> .hello thunerbirdtr 12:02:20 <zodbot> osezer[m]: Sorry, but user 'thunerbirdtr' does not exist 12:02:30 <riecatnor[m]> .hello riecatnor 12:02:30 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com> 12:02:33 <osezer[m]> .hello thunderbirdtr 12:02:34 <zodbot> osezer[m]: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com> 12:02:38 <riecatnor[m]> I am doing ok, just starting the day ;) 12:02:45 <riecatnor[m]> hi osezer :) how are you? 12:02:45 <osezer[m]> Good morning 12:02:58 <osezer[m]> Working ($DayJob) 12:03:00 <osezer[m]> I'm good 12:03:19 <riecatnor[m]> I have two 1.5 hour long things today 🥴 12:03:38 <t0xic0der[m]1> riecatnor: Ah, may power be with ya 12:04:07 <riecatnor[m]> thank you, i will need a lot of coffee today lol 12:04:46 <osezer[m]> Don't worry I'll send you tea :) 12:04:49 <riecatnor[m]> #topic info and announcements 12:04:53 <riecatnor[m]> oh I will take both :P 12:05:07 <riecatnor[m]> #info Fedora Linux 36 is in final freeze 12:05:10 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Milestone_freezes 12:05:25 <riecatnor[m]> #info mattdm needs your input on Fedora's 3 year strategy! join the conversation about accessibility strategy on discussion 12:05:30 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-2025-strategy-accessiblity-improvements-in-support-of-our-vision/38192 12:05:35 <riecatnor[m]> #info get ready to party! Fedora Linux 36 release party registration now open- May 13th & 14th 12:05:39 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/youre-invited-to-the-fedora-linux-36-release-party/ 12:05:43 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-36-release-party/registration 12:05:57 <riecatnor[m]> #info we are having Nest with Fedora & Fedora Hatch for 2022 contributor conference, learn more and find out how to get involved on the CommBlog. this is the last week to propose a hatch event 12:06:01 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-fedora-hatch-announcing-dates-call-for-volunteers/ 12:06:46 <riecatnor[m]> #info the Web & Apps Team revamp has published an objective update on the CommBlog 12:06:49 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-websites-and-apps-objective-revamp-update-april-2022/ 12:07:22 <riecatnor[m]> #info we ran a successful contributor tee shirt giveaway- resulting in 878 tee shirts shipping! 12:07:24 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-contributor-tee-shirt-giveaway-claim-yours-today/ 12:07:55 <riecatnor[m]> #info there is an Ambassadors meeting coming up this Thursday at 3PM UTC 12:07:58 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-ambassadors-kick-off-call-wrap-up-whats-next-and-how-to-get-involved/ 12:07:59 <osezer[m]> Congratulations t0xic0der ! 12:08:23 <riecatnor[m]> #info we are setting up a recurring Ambassador call moving forward, please fill out this whenisgood if interested 12:08:32 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://whenisgood.net/fedora-ambassadors-monthly 12:09:12 <riecatnor[m]> any other info or announcements to share today? 12:10:59 <osezer[m]> #info OpenSUSE Conferance is close (June 02-04) 12:11:01 <osezer[m]> #link https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSC22 12:11:23 <riecatnor[m]> there will be a hatch session! 12:11:28 <osezer[m]> Yes 12:11:44 <riecatnor[m]> wish I could be there 12:11:53 <osezer[m]> I'm trying to finish my stuff early so I'll ask for coming there 12:11:57 <osezer[m]> I'll try my best 12:12:06 <riecatnor[m]> I hope you can make it 12:12:13 <osezer[m]> Hopefully 12:12:15 <riecatnor[m]> #topic today's agenda 12:12:28 <riecatnor[m]> anyone have topics for todays agenda? 12:12:54 <riecatnor[m]> I guess t0xic0der does :) 12:13:07 <t0xic0der[m]1> Yep, I do 12:13:32 <t0xic0der[m]1> In the last Mindshare meet, we got to know for certain that we no longer have a Mindshare rep for the Websites and Apps team 12:13:49 <riecatnor[m]> yes, relrod is ready to hand over the reins 12:14:08 <t0xic0der[m]1> That brings me to think that we do need one - I have been filling in for the last three quarters as long as the quarterly updates are concerned 12:14:11 <riecatnor[m]> #topic new web & apps team rep to mindshare 12:14:39 <t0xic0der[m]1> Of course, having a dedicated Mindshare rep for the team would be of great help and I don't have to play both sides performing the roles of a lead and a representative 12:14:47 <riecatnor[m]> I agree we need a new rep put in place :) 12:15:13 <t0xic0der[m]1> We have a Websites and Apps engineering team meeting today and this probably would be one of the things that we would be discussing about. 12:15:13 <riecatnor[m]> We leave that to each team to choose how to elect their reps, including terms etc, but I think we can find some examples 12:15:39 <t0xic0der[m]1> I have couple of names in my book but I would want to ask them first before promising anything. Saying anything on someone's behalf is not a right thing to do. 12:15:51 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/commops/teams/mindshare-reps/ 12:16:23 <t0xic0der[m]1> riecatnor: Thanks for sharing the link. I would ensure that the new slated rep knows about these before they make a move. 12:16:31 <riecatnor[m]> this is for commops/ambassadors 12:16:42 <riecatnor[m]> the web & apps team should adopt and add this to their own docs 12:16:54 <t0xic0der[m]1> Eh, it does act as an example right? We could use it to write one for ourselves 12:16:57 <t0xic0der[m]1> Exactly 12:16:58 <riecatnor[m]> absolutely 12:17:18 <osezer[m]> t0xic0der: after your last PR, we can create a new section for that 12:17:49 <t0xic0der[m]1> osezer: The documentation PR is now merged into staging so it is under curation. Peopel seem to have liked the way things are organized right now. 12:18:00 <osezer[m]> t0xic0der[m]1: I was following yes 12:18:03 <t0xic0der[m]1> We now have established processes that are reproducible in nature ;P 12:18:05 <osezer[m]> > <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> osezer: The documentation PR is now merged into staging so it is under curation. Peopel seem to have liked the way things are organized right now. 12:18:05 <osezer[m]> * I was following yes 12:18:11 <osezer[m]> t0xic0der[m]1: Yay 12:19:01 <riecatnor[m]> cool. anything else for this? 12:19:19 <osezer[m]> We need mindshare emoji for matrix server :) 12:19:33 <t0xic0der[m]1> riecatnor: Nothing else from my side 12:19:38 <riecatnor[m]> brain + cloud :P 12:19:41 <osezer[m]> nothing else extra for me too 12:19:41 <t0xic0der[m]1> Thanks for giving me the time to put these points forth :) 12:19:57 <osezer[m]> Sure please merge it and make it blue :) 12:20:05 <riecatnor[m]> of course! I am excited to have another person on the team 12:20:29 <osezer[m]> riecatnor:++ 12:20:32 <t0xic0der[m]1> riecatnor: 100% with you on that :) 12:20:51 <riecatnor[m]> i think you have to riecatnor++ for me to get a cookie ;) 12:21:00 <osezer[m]> * riecatnor++ 12:21:00 <riecatnor[m]> I like cookies 12:21:01 <osezer[m]> riecatnor++ 12:21:08 <riecatnor[m]> interesting... 12:21:12 <osezer[m]> bot is still sleeping 12:21:15 <riecatnor[m]> thunderbirdtr++ 12:21:19 <osezer[m]> long awaited holiday undergoing 12:21:23 <riecatnor[m]> t0xic0der++ 12:21:28 <riecatnor[m]> lol 12:21:33 <riecatnor[m]> #topic tickets 12:21:41 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/314 12:21:53 <riecatnor[m]> we did this!! 12:22:00 <osezer[m]> Yes, time to close ticket 12:22:08 <riecatnor[m]> i told them to limit to 750 orders, but they didnt :/ 12:22:24 <riecatnor[m]> I am okay with sending the 878 tho 12:22:27 <riecatnor[m]> i think its good 12:22:28 <osezer[m]> riecatnor: RH pays :) 12:22:34 <riecatnor[m]> I deleted duplicate orders, fyi 12:22:34 <osezer[m]> their problem :P 12:22:48 <riecatnor[m]> we had about 30 duplicate orders 12:23:05 <osezer[m]> They ordered both ? 12:23:06 <osezer[m]> :) 12:23:18 <riecatnor[m]> they tried to put in two orders with different names 12:23:23 <riecatnor[m]> one person put in 3 lol 12:23:25 <t0xic0der[m]1> riecatnor[m]: OMG 12:23:26 <riecatnor[m]> hey, it happens! 12:23:30 <osezer[m]> I know 12:23:34 <riecatnor[m]> people love fedora lol 12:23:40 <osezer[m]> I even told you dups was there one of the old one 12:23:42 <riecatnor[m]> so, I am going to close this one out 12:24:02 <riecatnor[m]> very excited that we made this happen, people are going to be so happy to receive them :) 12:24:10 <riecatnor[m]> i think we will see some social media posts in our future 12:24:33 <osezer[m]> I want before oS Conference maybe I can wear it over there :) 12:24:51 <osezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: We should ask for "tag" maybe ahead ? 12:25:04 <osezer[m]> > <@riecatnor:fedora.im> i think we will see some social media posts in our future 12:25:04 <osezer[m]> * Maye we should ask with "tag" ahead ? 12:25:08 <riecatnor[m]> hmm 12:25:12 <riecatnor[m]> we should have added that to the post 12:25:15 <osezer[m]> Share your t-shirts pic under ### tag 12:25:21 <t0xic0der[m]1> ls 12:25:22 <riecatnor[m]> I think we could use #wearefedora 12:25:22 <osezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Oh, okay 12:25:29 <t0xic0der[m]1> Sumimasen :) 12:25:38 <riecatnor[m]> like, I could post to the fedora twitter once i get mine (or make Matthew do it lol) 12:25:58 <riecatnor[m]> and be like yay tee shirts and use #wearefedora to share yours 12:26:03 <osezer[m]> we can also make "group" photo thing maybe.......... :) 12:26:07 <osezer[m]> from twitter pics 12:26:13 <osezer[m]> 👼 :) 12:26:15 <riecatnor[m]> oooo a discussion thread could be cool for that? 12:26:28 <riecatnor[m]> cool 12:26:28 <osezer[m]> Yes 12:27:04 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/315 12:27:34 <riecatnor[m]> this will go out tomorrow :) https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/review-publish-mindshare-committee-quarterly-report-q1-2022/38531 12:27:45 <riecatnor[m]> I think I need to add some reminders in my calendar so we start a bit earlier 12:27:53 <riecatnor[m]> easy for everything else going on to carry me away 12:28:15 <riecatnor[m]> I will close this ticket out and open the next one, as well as set myself a calendar reminder :) 12:29:04 <riecatnor[m]> anything else for the quarterly report? 12:29:59 <TillMaas[m]> hackmd does not work for me right now, it states : "503 Service Temporarily Unavailable" 12:30:13 <riecatnor[m]> hmmmm, weird 12:30:28 <TillMaas[m]> now it is "I'm busy right now, try again later." 12:30:39 <riecatnor[m]> you can view the report here: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=10969&preview=1&_ppp=ac06caf171 12:31:27 <t0xic0der[m]1> TillMaas[m]: Strange. I can access it. 12:31:40 <t0xic0der[m]1> Might be some regional CDN issue or something :) 12:32:09 <TillMaas[m]> now it seems to be slowly back 12:33:40 <osezer[m]> t0xic0der[m]1: Yup 12:33:58 <TillMaas[m]> hm, when I try to login it is broken again. Would be good to mention the date of the release party in the report 12:34:48 <osezer[m]> Fedora Linux 36 Release Party 12:34:49 <osezer[m]> Friday & Saturday May 13th & 14th 12:34:49 <osezer[m]> Register now! 12:34:51 <osezer[m]> we do have it ? 12:34:55 <riecatnor[m]> its in at the top, but i've added to the other section as well 12:35:38 <riecatnor[m]> anything else for the report? 12:36:09 <TillMaas[m]> should it mention that we need the webapps rep in that section? 12:36:24 <t0xic0der[m]1> TillMaas[m]: If it helps, we should 12:36:26 <osezer[m]> TillMaas[m]: But it recent ? 12:36:37 <riecatnor[m]> cool 12:36:39 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/326 12:36:39 <osezer[m]> "January, February, and March of 2022" 12:36:51 <riecatnor[m]> oops 12:36:53 <riecatnor[m]> #undo 12:36:53 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x7fccae3c0b00> 12:37:05 <osezer[m]> Maybe "https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/330" this one ? :) 12:37:22 <riecatnor[m]> wait- are we still talking about the quarterly report? sorry for the confusion 12:37:38 <osezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Were until you post a link 12:37:43 <riecatnor[m]> we can add the rep to web & apps in the next report 12:37:43 <osezer[m]> > <@riecatnor:fedora.im> wait- are we still talking about the quarterly report? sorry for the confusion 12:37:43 <osezer[m]> * We were until you post a link 12:37:59 <riecatnor[m]> yeah, element was being weird and wasn't scrolling, I thought no one had said anything 😅 12:38:10 <osezer[m]> no problem 12:38:11 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/326 12:38:28 <riecatnor[m]> bt0 has replied- can we make the late meeting one hour later then to accomodate? 12:38:56 <osezer[m]> 11 pm to me.... hmmm I can take it I guess LGTM to me 12:39:03 <osezer[m]> but it is late some people 12:39:09 <riecatnor[m]> right. 12:39:11 <osezer[m]> * is late for some people 12:39:16 <riecatnor[m]> that is why its the late meeting ;) 12:39:23 <riecatnor[m]> you sometimes have a chance to be at this one? 12:39:25 <t0xic0der[m]1> Very late for Vipul Siddharth I think 12:39:33 <osezer[m]> Veryyy 12:39:53 <riecatnor[m]> vipul doesn't make it to that meeting usually 12:39:54 <osezer[m]> t0xic0der: is he UTC+5 ? 12:40:04 <riecatnor[m]> its already too late :P 12:40:12 <t0xic0der[m]1> We are UTC+05:30 12:40:15 <osezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: not for you 12:40:27 <osezer[m]> t0xic0der[m]1: 1:30 am yup 12:40:29 <osezer[m]> it is late :) 12:40:40 <osezer[m]> > <@riecatnor:fedora.im> its already too late :P 12:40:40 <osezer[m]> * not for you :) 12:40:45 <riecatnor[m]> so, we have two times for a reason.... are we just discussing that it is late, or is this an issue for people? 12:41:59 <osezer[m]> For make it easier, it is sort of bit more late yes (time wise) , and it is also issue to some people (for example Vipul) but If we can join other, it is fine by me 12:43:04 <osezer[m]> I believe this early good for EMEA/India regions. but late is bit more late yes 12:43:29 <osezer[m]> s/we/he/ 12:43:34 <riecatnor[m]> right, we designed the meeting structure to accommodate as many time zones by doing an early one and a late one 12:43:39 <riecatnor[m]> so I think its okay to move it an hour later 12:43:48 <osezer[m]> LGTM to me 12:43:48 <osezer[m]> +1 12:44:15 <riecatnor[m]> is someone up to working on the retirement of the TG channel? 12:44:15 <osezer[m]> me 12:44:23 <osezer[m]> I was waiting your signal 12:44:24 <riecatnor[m]> thank you osezer ! 12:44:27 <riecatnor[m]> :) 12:44:36 <osezer[m]> then I copy what we did early 12:44:38 <osezer[m]> and close it 12:44:44 <osezer[m]> and wrap up bots 12:45:39 <riecatnor[m]> ok, I commented about the meeting time and I will work on adjusting things 12:45:55 <osezer[m]> so I can close it ? 12:46:04 <riecatnor[m]> once the channel is retired, yes please :) 12:46:16 <osezer[m]> I meant for tg but yes 12:46:16 <osezer[m]> sure 12:46:17 <osezer[m]> :) 12:46:21 <osezer[m]> I can handle that too :) 12:46:51 <riecatnor[m]> ah, yes I see what you meant.. 12:47:06 <riecatnor[m]> when you say close, you are going to block anyone from messaging right? 12:47:11 <riecatnor[m]> I don't think we want to delete it for now? 12:47:21 <riecatnor[m]> add a note like we did for the badges tg 12:47:41 <osezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: no delete "just remove chat power" and last message and done 12:47:51 <osezer[m]> same thing we did for mindshare 12:47:51 <riecatnor[m]> cool 12:47:54 <riecatnor[m]> sounds good 12:47:57 <osezer[m]> s/mindshare/other chat*/ 12:49:29 <riecatnor[m]> #topic open floor 12:49:38 <riecatnor[m]> anything else for today? 12:49:53 <t0xic0der[m]1> Nothing from my end 12:50:55 <osezer[m]> Nothing extra 12:51:00 <osezer[m]> just waiting for tea and coffee time 12:51:08 <riecatnor[m]> :) 12:51:19 <riecatnor[m]> I think we should do a virtual mindshare f2f sometime soon 12:51:20 <osezer[m]> It is very important I can' do that atm :) 12:51:30 <riecatnor[m]> play some games together :) 12:52:01 <osezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: What we should do is create a "Virtual Mindshare Tea/Cofee party" :) 12:52:04 <riecatnor[m]> I wanna play code names 12:52:05 <riecatnor[m]> OH 12:52:08 <osezer[m]> And play games as well :) 12:52:19 <riecatnor[m]> coffee and (f)caic 12:52:24 <osezer[m]> Wouww :D 12:52:29 <osezer[m]> I'll take it :) 12:52:34 <riecatnor[m]> lol 12:52:34 <TillMaas[m]> next week is "Among us" 12:52:41 <riecatnor[m]> yes! 12:52:43 <osezer[m]> riecatnor: you making the cake right 12:52:46 <osezer[m]> TillMaas[m]: Yes 12:52:48 <osezer[m]> it is in "late time" 12:52:53 <osezer[m]> * it is in "late meeting" one 12:52:59 <osezer[m]> in May 12:53:04 <riecatnor[m]> What kind of cake? 12:53:11 <osezer[m]> riecatnor[m]: Make Fedorable 12:53:15 <osezer[m]> > <@riecatnor:fedora.im> What kind of cake? 12:53:15 <osezer[m]> * Make Fedorable, up to you 12:53:45 <riecatnor[m]> the among us session will be cool, but i'd like to do a whenisgood and really try to give people time to plan to be there 12:54:22 <osezer[m]> I mean, another idea "we can do in weekend" time as well since it is "fun" and game" no work kind of stuff 12:54:27 <osezer[m]> we can enjoy as well 12:54:35 <osezer[m]> I want many people as well 12:54:37 <osezer[m]> like 10 12:54:38 <osezer[m]> 15 12:54:43 <osezer[m]> good for testing 12:54:43 <osezer[m]> and fun 12:54:58 <riecatnor[m]> ohh, should we promote that among us session then? 12:55:05 <osezer[m]> We can make "discussion" 12:55:07 <osezer[m]> and ask for people 12:55:10 <osezer[m]> sure 12:55:12 <riecatnor[m]> can you open that? 12:55:15 <osezer[m]> Yup 12:55:18 <riecatnor[m]> cool! 12:55:26 <riecatnor[m]> also we can drop an invite in a couple channels when we start? 12:55:34 <osezer[m]> Sure 12:55:40 <osezer[m]> diver channel 12:55:41 <osezer[m]> docs 12:55:41 <osezer[m]> here 12:55:45 <osezer[m]> design 12:55:46 <riecatnor[m]> council 12:55:46 <osezer[m]> kde 12:55:46 <osezer[m]> workstation 12:55:48 <osezer[m]> council* 12:55:49 <riecatnor[m]> badges 12:55:49 <osezer[m]> yes 12:55:50 <osezer[m]> meta 12:55:51 <riecatnor[m]> :P 12:55:51 <osezer[m]> badges 12:55:52 <riecatnor[m]> spam 12:55:56 <osezer[m]> riecatnor: AND YOU 12:55:57 <riecatnor[m]> hahah 12:55:58 <osezer[m]> :D 12:56:20 <riecatnor[m]> alright- i gotta wrap up now bc I am about to be on one of those 1.5 hour calls and I need to walk around for a min 12:56:32 <riecatnor[m]> thanks for the discussion today :D hope ya'll have a good week 12:56:44 <osezer[m]> riecatnor: have an awesome one as well 12:56:47 <osezer[m]> Thanks for chair 12:56:49 <riecatnor[m]> #endmeeting