15:26:25 <mchua> #startmeeting
15:26:25 <ozorakn> Was looking for some of the folks you recommended for chatting about the Video issue
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15:26:47 <mchua> ozorakn: Great - for video stuff, if threethirty is around, he's a good person to help get you started.
15:26:52 <mchua> If not, hopefully someone else can jump in.
15:27:27 <ke4zvu31> mchua: yes
15:27:30 <mchua> tcorc, watkinc, krassen: Start asking questions - ke4zvu31 == Jonathan Nalley, and one of the person who's been talking about microblogging lately, and perhaps he can help answer some questions. rrix was also around for some of that discussion.
15:27:54 <mchua> ke4zvu31: Would you mind talking with tcorc, watkinc, and krassen for a bit? They've got some questions about microblogging - have already started working on it, have ideas, trying to figure out how to get feedback.
15:29:27 <ke4zvu31> i'd be glad to
15:29:50 <tcorc> Soo.. we have made a twitter account, but honestly we don't really know where to go from there.
15:30:21 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: great!  do you have anything in mind that you want to do with your twitter account?
15:31:35 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: such as what target audience(s) you want to reach and/or what kind of content you want to tweet/microblog about?
15:32:05 <tcorc> ke4zvu31: well i guess we were thinking of using it as a sort of marketing tool.
15:32:26 <tcorc> ke4zvu31: so i guess we would target prospective user as well as current users.
15:33:47 <tcorc> ke4zvu31: i don't feel like i know enough about twitter or fedora yet to answer that question with any amount of certainty... i think we just need a good place to start and then just go from there.
15:36:19 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: sure thing. so one thing i would suggest off the top of my head is that based on the two target audiences you identified, find some fedora content that would be of interest to those audiences and tweet it.  to get specific, you could find such content on FWN, Planet Fedora, Fedora Announce list, etc...
15:36:21 <ke4zvu31> additionally...
15:38:37 <fodym> Hi I'm an allegheny student and I was wondering if anyone in this channel was working on or has any knowledge about the "Experimental 3D extended to free Nouveau driver" feature because I wanted to help and make a profile for this feature of fedora.
15:38:41 <kowenh> Hi. My name is Hannah and am one of the Allegheny students working on the Fedora 13 release.  I'm thinking of working on the Btrfs feature profile. If anyone else is working on it, I'd be glad to help or get help. Just let me know.
15:39:07 <mchua_projector> stickster, ke4qqq: ^^ Need a hand with the btrfs stuff? Hannah is around and starting to work on it as well.
15:39:18 * rrix goes off to start his own FOSS fire at school; have a good day everyone!
15:39:22 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: so sometimes folks tweet about or write about fedora in such a way that you might want to publicize said tweets or writings to your followers.  So putting that in practice might be to setup an RSS feed or some other aggregation tool (hoot suite, etc...) for a twitter search for any mentionings of #fedora or just fedora since most folks might not use hash tags. keep in mind that you'll get lots of stuff about the headwear that shares the same n
15:39:52 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: additionally, another thing that I do is have a google news alert setup such that it emails me for new mentionings in things that google deems to be "news" about Fedora
15:39:53 <mchua_projector> rbergeron: ^^ need a hand with the feature profile you're writing? I think you were doing the stuff that vaguely included nouveau? fodym is around to help, right now he's trying to figure out how to contact upstream.
15:40:04 <mchua_projector> fodym: Robyn may be dropping off her kids at school, but she should be back soon if she's not here yet.
15:40:16 <mchua_projector> Hey, rrix. Have fun!
15:41:00 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: one thing you could do to improve on the signal/noise ratio of a twitter search for fedora is to includ "linux" as a keyword perhaps
15:43:43 <ke4zvu31> #idea tcorc: another suggestion might be to follow certain fedora-based twitter accounts such as fedorasecurity or planetfedora.  in my non-professional and non-authoritative opinion, you might not want to follow everyone that follows you or follow that many folks in general, but follow folks that would help improve or carry on the mission/purpose of your twitter account and that don't take away from the brand, etc...
15:44:15 * ke4zvu31 hopes that my usage of #idea was correct, mchua: does that zodbot command have to come at the beginning of one's transmission?
15:46:32 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: so alot of companies and such that have more than one person involved in their social media use a twitter client that more easily facilitates tweeting by more than one human.  since it seems that watkinc and krassen are involved as well, i thought i would throw that out there.  the one that fedora uses is hootsuite although there are others or even making your own is always a possibility
15:47:55 <ozorakn> mchua:  What is FAS?
15:48:36 <ke4zvu31> ozorakn: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem
15:48:48 <ke4zvu31> ozorakn: The Fedora Account  System  keeps track of Fedora Project contributors and the projects  they work on.  It is used to grant authentication and authorization to  various components.
15:49:36 <ke4zvu31> #idea tcorc: my own humble belief and opinion is that it's generally a good idea to include some kind of link in your tweets either as a citation/reference or to just provide more verbose reading info on what you're tweeting about then what 140 characters will allow
15:50:59 <ozorakn>  mchua:  What is FAS?
15:51:07 <rbergeron> fodym: take a look at the nouveau feature page (mchua - or anyone - can you point that out? im on via phone) - i've been in contact with the developer, if you'd like to work on writing up some interview questions, that would work out great :)
15:51:20 * rbergeron is driving again - bbs!
15:51:34 <mchua_projector> rbergeron: ok! fodym has seen your message.
15:51:39 <mchua_projector> fodym, keep asking questions in this channel.
15:52:17 <stickster> ozorakn: FAS = Fedora Account System -- https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts
15:52:45 <stickster> It's the central authenticator for most of the Fedora systems that require accountholders to identify themselves
15:52:57 * stickster is headed for a meeting in a few minutes but pops in
15:53:06 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: and on the topic of the 140 character twitter limit, I think that it definitely forces the author to be quite crafty in one's choices of words and word order and such. I sometimes struggle with trying to get all the relevant info I want in a single tweet without resorting to text-like shorthand, but you just have to prioritize your text and craft words and sentences accordingly to entice your readers to click the URL and then rely on that web
15:53:25 * rbergeron will check backlog when she gets back - or email me or the list :) (stuck waiting for two trains to mooooooove it)
15:53:26 <ke4zvu31> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem
15:53:31 <ke4zvu31> #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts
15:54:29 <ozorakn> Thanks, stickster
15:54:36 <tcorc> ke4zvu31: we just created a wiki so we can take notes on twitter sop
15:54:53 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: awesome
15:55:23 <fodym> okay yeah I'll work on some questions, I might also need some help understanding the material in the feature page can email you some questions if I'm confused?
15:55:30 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: pardon my ignorance, but is this a wiki internal to you guys or your project or are you referring to the fedoraproject wiki ?
15:55:44 <tcorc> ke4zvu31: the fedoraporject wiki
15:56:00 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: cool
15:57:20 <rbergeron> fodym: yes indeedy!
15:58:37 <fodym> rbergeron: alright, thanks
15:58:43 <tcorc> ke4zvu31: Thanks for all the advice/ideas.  They helped a lot. It looks like now we just have to take some time to figure out what's going to work best.
15:58:44 <rbergeron> fodym: and im on irc / email most hours - like mel, if im not on, i will be soon, most likely
15:58:50 <rbergeron> *grin*
15:58:52 <mchua_projector> fodym, rbergeron: I'd actually suggest having that conversation on the Marketing mailing list, so others can see and jump in and help.
15:59:14 * rbergeron agrees with mchua
15:59:30 <ke4zvu31> tcorc: glad to help.
16:00:03 <ozorakn> mchua_projector: Help back here
16:02:21 <mchua_projector> ozorakn: Can you wave?
16:02:38 <ozorakn> *waved
16:03:33 * ke4qqq reads up a bit
16:04:38 * mchua_projector is coming over to ozorakn.
16:06:55 <ozorakn> Does anyone here know when threethirty may be online?
16:13:09 <ke4qqq> ozorakn: he's usually on in the evenings
16:13:12 <ke4qqq> eastern time
16:13:18 <ke4qqq> he's on central time iirc
16:16:39 <ozorakn> Thanks, ke4qqq
16:28:26 <mchua_projector> We're wrapping up with after-class questions at the front of the classroom. I'll be back to ask folks how that went in just a moment. :)
16:34:47 * mchua looks up
16:34:48 <mchua> Okay!
16:34:55 <ke4qqq> hi mchua
16:35:08 <mchua> ke4qqq, rbergeron, rrix, ke4zvu31... THANK YOU!
16:35:21 <mchua> (They're finally learning how to come onto the channels and the mailing lists.)
16:35:24 * ke4qqq did nothing except wave basically
16:35:28 <mchua> It's going well - the classroom was alive with energy today.
16:35:36 <ke4qqq> yeah we had some students on recently in the evenings
16:35:48 <mchua> ke4qqq: You'll be getting an email from someone on the btrfs feature profile tonight. ;) She's also copying the marketing list and the developers listed on the feature page.
16:35:54 <mchua> so you can haz minion there.
16:36:03 <ke4qqq> ohhhh minionz is cool
16:38:34 * rbergeron eats food
16:38:36 <rbergeron> nomnomnom
16:42:16 <mchua> I'm going to close these logs and head to lunch, then hit various mailing lists with explanations.
16:42:19 <mchua> #endmeeting