17:29:55 <mchua> #startmeeting
17:29:56 <zodbot> Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-27/spin_pages.2010-04-27-13.59.txt
17:29:58 <zodbot> Log:            http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-27/spin_pages.2010-04-27-13.59.log.html
17:30:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 27 17:29:55 2010 UTC.  The chair is mchua. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
17:30:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
17:30:07 <mchua> #chair rbergeron nmarques threethirty sdziallas wonderer
17:30:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: mchua nmarques rbergeron sdziallas threethirty wonderer
17:30:13 <mchua> just to spread the load, and in case I forget to #endmeeting later ;)
17:30:29 <nmarques> by the way
17:30:32 <rbergeron> mchua: i'm guessing something liek... put these meeting notes somewhere.... and document so someone else can figure it out ? :)
17:30:38 <nmarques> see Nicholas Ozorak email on the list
17:30:51 * rbergeron is a fan of "figure it out by breaking" - you can't foul it up, too much. :)
17:30:54 <nmarques> and check his suggestion about a possible contact
17:31:02 <nmarques> see if it fits in the Fedora Insight
17:31:29 <mchua> threethirty: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/112
17:31:31 <mchua> rbergeron: ^
17:31:35 <mchua> rbergeron: you, madam, are correct!
17:31:46 * rbergeron wins a white ribbon
17:32:35 <mchua> rbergeron: must... plow... onwards!
17:32:46 <rbergeron> u got it
17:32:54 <mchua> threethirty: oh, and screenshots == yay
17:32:57 * wonderer searching for the ticket commands for zodbot
17:33:19 * mchua switches back to moblin spin mode
17:33:22 <mchua> sdziallas: how are we doing?
17:33:32 * mchua has just been pumping out content while waiting for the website to build on her machine
17:33:42 <sdziallas> nchua: I'm currently dumping content in the html file
17:33:46 <mchua> oh good, build is done finally.
17:33:48 * sdziallas shudders
17:33:54 <sdziallas> s/nchua/mchua :)
17:34:16 <mchua> ...oh hey that wasn't so bad. 3 minutes, I just didn't watch my terminal.
17:34:28 * sdziallas grins, nice!
17:37:07 * mchua looks at built output of spins website, blinks
17:37:11 <mchua> Um. that's not right.
17:37:30 <mchua> sample of html: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  <li><a id="t1" href="#home">Home</a></li>
17:37:42 <mchua> the page looks incredibly amusing right now.
17:37:45 <mchua> but wrong.
17:37:58 * mchua hops into git web interface to see if the file actually looks like that (it shouldn't)
17:38:08 <wonderer> mchua: I can't see html here. please use fpaste.org :-)
17:38:09 <rbergeron> nmarques: i'm not sure how we'd pull him into FI - i mean, we'd certainly highlight anything he did on F13 / F12 / whatever-fedora related on FI
17:38:13 <quaid> mchua: we square with sdziallas web group sub?
17:38:15 * rbergeron notes that we'd need to have FI going
17:38:20 <rbergeron> and it would need to support video stuff
17:39:02 <threethirty> does anyone have logs of the steps mchua laid out, i dont log anything (i should really start) and copy&pasting from irssi is tedious, if not no problem
17:39:26 <wonderer> rbergeron: as I said above - video, CMS, etherpad and gobby plugin...
17:39:38 <ke4qqq> threethirty: she was running meetbot
17:39:50 <sdziallas> quaid: mhm?
17:40:00 <mchua> threethirty: see the ticket, it has a link to the log.
17:40:05 <mchua> quaid: huh?
17:40:15 <mchua> quaid: oh! yes, all set
17:40:26 <quaid> k
17:40:29 <threethirty> i didnt notice meetbot was runing :/
17:40:46 <sdziallas> mchua: I think I've a html file for Moblin ready.
17:40:47 <nmarques> rbergeron, it doesnt support embembed video ?
17:41:31 <mchua> wonderer: http://fpaste.org/7w8T/
17:41:35 <wonderer> thx
17:41:55 <mchua> threethirty: http://fpaste.org/7w8T/
17:41:56 <rbergeron> well - it probably could but - to what end?
17:42:06 <rbergeron> we can encourage him to talk about Fedora
17:42:07 <mchua> threethirty: whoops, uhm... i meant
17:42:23 <mchua> threethirty: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/112
17:42:32 <rbergeron> but getting him involved in FI - i'm not sure what that does that we couldn't do ourselves - unless we want him to start looking like an unobjective technology observer
17:43:08 <nmarques> rbergeron, I haven't looked into FI goals
17:43:34 <nmarques> rbergeron, but it sounds nice to me that we could spare some space for third parties which promote our stuff
17:43:50 <rbergeron> well - we can include the content they're creating
17:44:02 <rbergeron> but i was under the impression you wanted him to be doing his own thing on FI
17:44:06 <rbergeron> which is definitely different
17:44:15 <sdziallas> mchua: I'm going to give it a build before pushing, okay?
17:44:16 <nmarques> nah
17:44:22 <nmarques> if he goes doing something about Fedora
17:44:40 <nmarques> we should supply the necessary stuff, at least point it (in terms of material for their work)
17:44:47 <nmarques> and we could highlight their work
17:44:54 <mchua> sdziallas: go for it, I'm making my own patch ("what is this spin?" sidebar content fix)
17:45:07 <sdziallas> mchua: oh, okay :)
17:45:32 <sdziallas> mchua: I'm also thinking we should get rid of the edu page, btw.
17:46:34 <mchua> oh hm, that doesn't appear to come from the same page.
17:46:35 * mchua digs around
17:46:43 <mchua> sdziallas: oh, yeah. actually, lemme do that first
17:47:00 * mchua wants to make sure she's got the commit flow down anyhow
17:47:03 <sdziallas> mchua: :)
17:47:43 <nmarques> mchua, btw, great job on the Python FP
17:49:03 <mchua> nmarques: thanks!
17:50:58 <sdziallas> mhm, something's wrong in the new template....
17:54:52 * mchua grimaces. okay, more than one file to edit here.
17:54:58 * mchua starting to figure out how the spins webpage build system works
17:55:25 * sdziallas can't believe he actually fixed the build error here, too.
17:55:27 <sdziallas> mchua: :)
17:55:31 <mchua> I need to edit data/templates/master.html to change the short descript that shows up in spins.fp.o mainpage, as well as in the sidebar
17:55:57 <sdziallas> mchua: oh, okay? I *think* (from watching older commits), we'll need to edit the master.html for new spins, too.
17:56:06 <sdziallas> so that'd make sense
17:56:12 <mchua> why is this in template? blah.
17:56:34 * mchua takes out edu line, changes security line
17:56:42 <sdziallas> mchua: *shrug* - I've got the same issue as you get.
17:56:52 <sdziallas> (Â Â
17:57:27 <mchua> \o/
17:57:35 * mchua found redundant info, heads to #fedora-websites to ask sijis about it
17:57:46 * sdziallas decides to join there, too.
18:00:49 * mchua reminds herself this process is only painful once
18:00:55 <sdziallas> :)
18:01:01 <mchua> and that last release was the first one that we had spin pages at all
18:01:09 <mchua> and this release is the first one other people are making spin pages
18:01:17 <sdziallas> yeah, right.
18:01:24 <mchua> and that the resulting documentation will make life easier for everybody else in the future
18:01:26 <sdziallas> and that next release, other people are going to do it ;)
18:01:27 <mchua> \o/
18:01:31 <mchua> OH YES THEY WILL
18:01:36 <sdziallas> jinx :)
18:01:38 * mchua WILL MAKE SURE THERE IS AN SOP
18:01:56 <sdziallas> "there's an SOP for that"
18:01:58 <mchua> rbergeron: now you see where my habit comes from :)
18:02:14 <mchua> rbergeron: laziness :D
18:02:25 * rbergeron grins
18:02:32 * mchua grabs lunch while waiting for sijis to reply in the other channel
18:03:02 * mchua may need to pause for a moment to get ready for a meeting at 3pm (but will also be watching Zonker's classroom)
18:04:01 * wonderer making some coffee for zonkers classroom
18:04:20 * wonderer hacking some VOIP-phone for conferencing recordings.
18:04:50 * rbergeron needs cookies
18:06:35 * wonderer smiles very nicely at rbergeron :-D
18:06:40 <mchua> wonderer: and tea, please. strong.
18:06:44 * mchua needs some of that right now
18:07:08 <wonderer> mchua: wich one? Cylon, Assam, Highlandy, dark, jasmin, etc. ?!
18:07:42 * wonderer is coffee-addicted and tea-lover ;-)
18:08:20 <mchua> wonderer: oh man, I'm also a tea-lover. Um... got genmai cha?
18:08:58 <wonderer> mchua: out now, but I can get you some chai ...
18:09:13 <mchua> wonderer: worksforme!
18:09:18 <sdziallas> mchua: given that the new content works, I'm going to push that :)
18:10:15 <mchua> w00t
18:13:57 <fedbot> Announcement: There's a Class coming up over in #fedora-classroom at 19:00 UTC (in about 45minutes) See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom or /join #fedora-classroom for more details. How to make life awesome for journalists with Joe Brockmeier
18:14:51 <mchua> wow, fedbot is really... into zonker's class.
18:15:37 <rbergeron> indeed.
18:15:58 <EvilBob> Hey if no one shows up it is NOT my fault
18:16:21 <sdziallas> mchua: pushed.
18:18:47 * wonderer searching some gadgets for igoogle ...
18:19:28 <mchua> sdziallas: I'll grab the update and test building here in a moment, need to take a break and prep stats for the POSSE meeting first
18:19:31 * mchua bbiab
18:19:51 <sdziallas> mchua: sure thing!
18:31:45 <rbergeron> doh
18:55:21 <fedbot> Announcement: There's a Class coming up over in #fedora-classroom at 19:00 UTC (in about 5minutes) See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom or /join #fedora-classroom for more details. How to make life awesome for journalists with Joe Brockmeier
18:59:32 * mchua heads to #fedora-classroom
19:03:32 <mchua> Zonker's session in #fedora-classroom is rollin'. And awesome.
19:04:07 <wonderer> .fasinfo jzb
19:04:08 <zodbot> wonderer: User: jzb, Name: Joe Brockmeier, email: jzb@zonker.net, Creation: 2010-04-20, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, Extension: 5146641, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
19:04:13 <zodbot> wonderer: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fedora
19:10:19 <nmarques> .nextmarketingmeeting
19:10:19 <zodbot> nmarques: 49 minutes and 41 seconds
19:12:23 * nmarques needs an adrenaline shot
19:30:25 * stickster is late to Classroom because of phone mtg running long :-(
19:36:46 <EvilBob> the current LJ has a story about Distro Philosophy... they still call us Fedora Core. This fits with Joe's SME items
19:38:12 <nmarques> EvilBob, he probably was refering to Fedora Kernel (core) ;)
19:38:31 <nmarques> *they
19:38:36 <EvilBob> no
19:38:41 <EvilBob> they were not
19:39:02 <nmarques> EvilBob, marketing failed on the rebranding... happens a lot
19:39:31 <nmarques> EvilBob, they will change it if someone points it to them I think
19:40:03 <EvilBob> Please, forget I said anything
19:40:31 <EvilBob> It was simply a sidebar about something talked about in the classroom that you are not in.
19:42:35 <quaid> sankarshan_away: was it you or who wrote a nice piece telling students how to write inquiry emails?  I.e., don't use text messaging-style writing, punctuation, complete sentences, etc,
19:45:38 <nmarques> quaid, good information also here: www.esomar.org
19:46:04 <nmarques> http://www.esomar.org/index.php/codes-guidelines.html
19:49:27 <quaid> thx
19:51:17 <mchua> Marketing meeting starting soon.
19:51:19 <mchua> oh.
19:51:21 <mchua> #endmeeting