15:38:58 <tatica> #startmeeting 15:38:58 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Mar 24 15:38:58 2012 UTC. The chair is tatica. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:38:58 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:39:06 <tatica> #topic GSoC - Fedora Insight 15:39:32 <asrob> okay 15:39:40 <tatica> #chair asrob 15:39:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: asrob tatica 15:39:42 <asrob> madura, go ahead 15:39:58 <asrob> rabisg, you will be the next ;) 15:40:10 <rabisg> as u say :) 15:40:26 <madura> how about the knowledge i want about drupal? 15:41:12 <asrob> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_status_and_microblogging 15:42:50 <rabisg> ok.. so I have already told you what I have done and what I plan to do.. any feedback on that? 15:42:53 <asrob> madura, you have to familiar with Drupal itself, contrib modules and api 15:43:13 <madura> yes! 15:43:39 <madura> i go to little bit api level 15:44:04 <asrob> madura, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2012#Insight_use_cases_for_status_and_microblogging 15:44:42 <asrob> rabisg, I like what you have done 15:45:00 <bckurera> #link http://drupal.org/developing/modules 15:45:48 <rabisg> thanks asrob but very frankly it will take me hardly 20-25 days to perfect what I have mentioned, I think we should have some further goals as well 15:46:12 <rabisg> that imo, would like to know from a pro Drupal hacker, what he thinks 15:46:45 <asrob> rabisg, I'm not pro Drupal hacker, looking for your email, just a sec... 15:47:02 <asrob> any other question, feedback? 15:47:35 <LSD> any thing about clender ? 15:48:08 <LSD> sry calender 15:48:16 <asrob> LSD, maybe later 15:49:45 <asrob> rabisg, ah, got it, so the question is how can we handle microblog accounts and user accounts?! 15:49:46 <madura> why fedora projects needs drupal? 15:49:54 <rabisg> yes, since yesterday you were talking about authentication thing, maybe I can take up. 15:50:03 <asrob> rabisg, you're right 15:50:33 <rabisg> from yesterday's discussion I think that using FAS is the option we shud go for 15:50:40 <asrob> rabisg, +1 15:50:49 <asrob> did you think about this? 15:50:53 <rabisg> yes 15:51:02 <asrob> any idea? 15:51:08 <rabisg> t first i wud like to as sumthng 15:51:32 <rabisg> do we access the FAS database directly or thru any tunneling method? 15:51:40 <rabisg> i mean like OAuth, etc? 15:52:22 <asrob> well, I don't know, maybe as a web service yes 15:52:31 <rabisg> for example for my university websites, whenever I need authentication we do the following: 15:53:28 <jsmith> rabisg: It's exposed as a web service, that the auth_fas module authenticates against 15:53:40 <rabisg> We send a FTP request with username/pass and if it returns 1 we grant authentication, that works fine except that it is insecure, a malicious website provider can ofcourse store it 15:54:05 <rabisg> ok jsmith 15:54:35 <rabisg> then asrob isnt the problem solved to a great extent? 15:54:41 <asrob> thanks jsmith 15:55:20 <asrob> rabisg, yeah 15:56:04 <rabisg> ok. den again nothing much to do either.. 15:57:06 <asrob> okay 15:57:20 <asrob> madura, are you interested in microblogging, right? 15:57:35 <madura> yap 15:58:04 <asrob> madura, any question, idea? 15:59:33 * bckurera FYI : One idea can have more than one application/ proposal, in such situation will select the best proposal. 15:59:45 <madura> actually i'm not have much idea about this.beacause i'm new.I will tell you my ideas later. is it okay? 16:00:08 <asrob> madura, okay 16:00:18 <thunderbirdtr> ! 16:00:34 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, go ahead 16:01:28 <thunderbirdtr> About comment parts 16:01:38 <thunderbirdtr> Can we keep free that part a little bit more 16:01:46 <thunderbirdtr> If person want to add comment 16:01:53 <thunderbirdtr> he/she have to login using FAS 16:02:05 <thunderbirdtr> but can we add OpenID style just for comment ? 16:02:18 <thunderbirdtr> or using comment system ? 16:02:20 <thunderbirdtr> eof 16:03:15 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, this is a good question, by default we cannot do this, but I'm sure there is a similar contrib module that does what you say 16:03:17 <LSD> much more better to allow anymous comments 16:03:27 <thunderbirdtr> LSD, +1 16:03:38 <asrob> LSD, yes, that is another option 16:03:50 <madura> yap! that's true LSD 16:04:03 <bckurera> ! 16:04:15 <thunderbirdtr> ! 16:04:40 <asrob> #info http://packages.python.org/python-fedora/auth.html 16:05:00 <asrob> bckurera, speak :) 16:05:11 <bckurera> It is better making those things can be controlled via admin panel 16:05:21 <bckurera> so that admins can set what to do 16:05:55 <bckurera> allow openID or any other option 16:06:12 <bckurera> so later if any decision will be made, there is no need to code again 16:06:18 <bckurera> just an idea 16:06:19 <bckurera> eof 16:06:22 <asrob> +1 16:06:44 <asrob> right permissions and roles 16:06:54 <LSD> bckurera,then there may be some one have mange this 16:07:13 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, your turn 16:07:25 <bckurera> LSD : of course the infra team will/should handle this 16:07:29 <thunderbirdtr> I just remember one thing 16:07:45 <thunderbirdtr> can we use this for comment 16:07:45 <thunderbirdtr> #link http://disqus.com/ 16:07:53 <thunderbirdtr> you can add into drupal ? 16:07:58 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, yes, there is a drupal module for this 16:08:04 <thunderbirdtr> good :) 16:08:10 <thunderbirdtr> eof 16:08:29 <asrob> #info http://drupal.org/project/disqus 16:09:19 <asrob> okay, I have 3 questions 16:09:23 <bckurera> ? 16:09:47 <asrob> does anyone have a question about microblogging part? 16:10:49 <madura> asrob , yap 16:10:56 <madura> what about UI? 16:11:07 <asrob> tatica, ^ 16:11:14 <tatica> well... 16:11:34 * tatica will be the one doing the ui 16:12:15 * bckurera , need support in mocks? count me in !! 16:12:24 <madura> asrob, k 16:12:29 <madura> sry 16:12:31 <madura> ok 16:13:01 <asrob> okay 16:13:09 <tatica> bckurera, my hero! :D 16:13:20 <tatica> bckurera, did you check the really awful mockups I did 16:13:21 <tatica> ? 16:13:34 <tatica> bckurera, idea will be port those to mizmo first insight design 16:13:44 <tatica> that's the "design goal" 16:13:45 <bckurera> tatica on artboard? 16:13:48 <tatica> noup 16:13:51 <tatica> let me check on logs 16:14:07 <tatica> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:FooBar.png 16:14:09 <asrob> 2. do we talk about calendar part? 16:14:09 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/ce/FooBar.png this one ? 16:14:14 <tatica> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6771084841/in/set-72157613836974776 16:14:17 <tatica> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6771084853/in/set-72157613836974776 16:14:17 <bckurera> ohh my bad still I need to read the logs tatica 16:14:20 <tatica> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6771084865/in/set-72157613836974776 16:14:27 <tatica> logs :D http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2012-03-23/fedora-mktg.2012-03-23-15.46.html 16:14:29 <LSD> ! 16:14:32 <tatica> well... minute 16:14:34 <tatica> better 16:14:35 <tatica> brb 16:14:45 <asrob> LSD, your turn 16:15:02 <bckurera> ! 16:15:42 <LSD> asrob,Do you have idea to about loang tem use cases ? 16:15:59 <bckurera> x 16:16:16 <LSD> term* 16:16:34 <asrob> LSD, yeah, I think timezone support is done 16:17:04 <asrob> specific teams, maybe taxonomy 16:17:21 <asrob> so we can filter by views as exposed filter for example 16:17:33 <rabisg> sorry got disconnected 16:17:52 <rabisg> can anyone update me? 16:18:10 <asrob> zodbot integration, we need to write a custom module, I didn't find a module for this 16:18:14 <asrob> rabisg, - 16:18:46 <rabisg> zodbot for? 16:18:49 <LSD> then lets do that :) 16:18:57 <asrob> LSD, do these make sense? 16:19:11 <LSD> yes, 16:19:14 <asrob> bckurera, I have an idea for events as well ;) 16:19:32 <bckurera> yeah please go ahead asrob 16:19:37 <asrob> rabisg, zodbot integration, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_calendar 16:19:59 <bckurera> rabisg : meeting logs so far : http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2012-03-24/fedora-mktg.2012-03-24-15.38.log.txt 16:20:13 <asrob> bckurera, we can use some modules, parts from COD (Conference Organizing Distribution) 16:20:14 <LSD> i gone through that today afternoon 16:20:15 <tatica> back 16:20:27 <asrob> bckurera, or registration module 16:20:30 <madura> ! 16:20:35 <bckurera> ! 16:20:37 <asrob> bckurera, http://drupal.org/project/registration 16:20:48 <asrob> madura, your turn 16:22:14 <madura> what about mailing list about the project? 16:22:44 <asrob> madura, we use the Fedora Logistic lists 16:22:51 <asrob> for Fedora Insight 16:23:06 <madura> asrob , okay 16:23:09 <asrob> bckurera, your turn 16:23:15 <bckurera> thanks 16:23:16 <bckurera> asrob +1 your idea, it is a requirement 16:23:34 <asrob> bckurera, you're welcome 16:23:34 <bckurera> further as an FAm I would like if the event system has following 16:23:47 <asrob> bckurera, I'm using that for our local community site ;) 16:24:08 <bckurera> we use the wiki to create events and then mannually add them to event page 16:24:31 <bckurera> so in events if we can make this semi-automated thats great 16:24:32 <tatica> ! 16:24:38 <bckurera> there are set of use cases we need to cover 16:24:54 <asrob> bckurera, yep 16:24:57 <asrob> tatica, your turn 16:25:05 <bckurera> release parties, FADs and normal events 16:25:06 <bckurera> eof 16:25:11 <tatica> I would love if I can simply fill a form to add an event to the insight, then this fills the wiki... and the day after the event (and a week after) sends me a reminder asking me to add the blogs posts, photos, etc etc 16:25:20 <tatica> that would be so so awesome and make my life easier :) 16:25:20 <tatica> eof 16:25:29 <asrob> +10000 :) 16:25:31 <LSD> ! 16:25:32 <thunderbirdtr> or move all events to insight ? 16:25:47 <bckurera> tatica thousands +1 16:26:02 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, billion +1 :) 16:26:06 <tatica> lol 16:26:24 <bckurera> thunderbirdtr better keep the wiki as well, the traditional way 16:26:33 <asrob> LSD, your turn 16:26:36 <thunderbirdtr> bckurera, ok 16:27:49 <LSD> how should calender help to project develop teams? 16:28:26 <LSD> showing milestone, deadlines ... etc? 16:28:27 <tatica> TOO 16:28:32 <asrob> LSD, yep 16:28:37 <tatica> idea is that calendar works for meetings, events and roadmaps and schedules 16:28:41 <tatica> eof :$ sorry :$ 16:29:11 <LSD> then what are the special function should design for specific groups? 16:29:13 <asrob> LSD, as a localization team member you will see when it is the string freeze, test days, etc-etc 16:29:30 <asrob> tatica, no problem ;) 16:29:57 <LSD> yep, I have send many mails for fedora project leaders, waiting for there specufucation 16:30:08 <LSD> specifications* 16:30:39 <asrob> okay 16:30:48 <bckurera> FYI : Fedora Schedule , #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/ 16:31:03 <asrob> #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/ 16:31:05 <madura> ! 16:31:12 <asrob> madura, go 16:31:42 <madura> what about the specifications about project "Insight use cases for status and microblogging" 16:32:20 <asrob> madura, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_status_and_microblogging 16:32:33 <asrob> we have to solve these things 16:32:38 <madura> asrob , okay 16:32:46 <rabisg> ! 16:33:09 <asrob> rabisg, your turn 16:33:12 <madura> i will send mail with my ideas as soon as possible 16:33:24 <madura> asrob , sorry 16:33:25 <asrob> ok 16:34:17 <rabisg> the discussion is an addition tot the "Insight use cases for status and microblogging" or are we talking about Calendar use cases? 16:35:14 <asrob> both of them :) 16:35:27 <LSD> :) 16:35:46 <LSD> ! 16:35:52 <asrob> Insight is a complex thing :) 16:35:53 <rabisg> :) so one option would be to add events just like microblogs.. 16:36:16 <rabisg> i mean from the main page you can add events just like statuses and it goies into wiki and Calendar as well 16:36:39 <asrob> hm, it's interesting :) 16:36:46 <asrob> I didn't think of this :) 16:36:59 <LSD> i also had that idea ;) 16:37:21 <asrob> oops 16:37:37 <asrob> okay, do you have other question? 16:37:46 <LSD> yep .. 16:37:48 <asrob> I have to run soon 16:37:56 <asrob> LSD, your turn 16:38:34 <LSD> i have another idea to show all online group members in geagraphical earth widget .. 16:38:35 <rabisg> no, and can doing it from IRC itself sound as a god idea? 16:39:13 <asrob> LSD, good idea 16:39:34 <thunderbirdtr> ! 16:39:38 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, 16:39:53 <thunderbirdtr> share button (facebook,twitter,google+, etc. ) 16:40:02 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, +1 16:40:09 <asrob> there are some drupal modules ;) 16:40:10 <bckurera> +1 16:40:24 <thunderbirdtr> asrob, I love drupal and it modules :)) 16:40:28 <asrob> :D 16:40:40 <LSD> :) 16:40:41 <asrob> ok, I'd like to share my roadmap 16:40:56 <rabisg> what about likes/thumbs up?? 16:41:05 <madura> i have a idea.. 16:42:24 <madura> what about if we can send the events by emails? 16:42:39 <madura> or through sms 16:42:44 <asrob> at first I'd like to collect your ideas and write it down into a wiki page under Insight section 16:43:00 <asrob> madura, I don't think it is necessary right now 16:43:27 <madura> asrob, okay 16:44:10 <asrob> so you can get more complete specifications 16:44:24 <asrob> with our use cases 16:44:38 <rabisg> asrob:do you want me to send a mail to the logistics list tonight, listing down all that we have discussed? 16:45:17 <asrob> rabisg, it would be good but it's not necessary, I will read the logs ;) 16:45:48 <asrob> tatica, bckurera, do you have any comments? 16:45:53 <rabisg> ok as u say.. :) 16:47:07 <tatica> not -yet- 16:47:21 <tatica> could you guys do a list and send it to the mail with topics we work today 16:47:28 <tatica> I have been on-off because laundru :( 16:48:18 <asrob> okay, then tatica, you can close 16:48:30 <tatica> oki 16:48:32 <tatica> #endmeeting