15:38:58 <tatica> #startmeeting
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15:39:06 <tatica> #topic GSoC - Fedora Insight
15:39:32 <asrob> okay
15:39:40 <tatica> #chair asrob
15:39:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: asrob tatica
15:39:42 <asrob> madura, go ahead
15:39:58 <asrob> rabisg, you will be the next ;)
15:40:10 <rabisg> as u say :)
15:40:26 <madura> how about the knowledge i want about drupal?
15:41:12 <asrob> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_status_and_microblogging
15:42:50 <rabisg> ok.. so I have already told you what I have done and what I plan to do.. any feedback on that?
15:42:53 <asrob> madura, you have to familiar with Drupal itself, contrib modules and api
15:43:13 <madura> yes!
15:43:39 <madura> i go to little bit api level
15:44:04 <asrob> madura, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2012#Insight_use_cases_for_status_and_microblogging
15:44:42 <asrob> rabisg, I like what you have done
15:45:00 <bckurera> #link http://drupal.org/developing/modules
15:45:48 <rabisg> thanks asrob but very frankly it will take me hardly 20-25 days to perfect what I have mentioned, I think we should have some further goals as well
15:46:12 <rabisg> that imo, would like to know from a pro Drupal hacker, what he thinks
15:46:45 <asrob> rabisg, I'm not pro Drupal hacker, looking for your email, just a sec...
15:47:02 <asrob> any other question, feedback?
15:47:35 <LSD> any thing about clender ?
15:48:08 <LSD> sry calender
15:48:16 <asrob> LSD, maybe later
15:49:45 <asrob> rabisg, ah, got it, so the question is how can we handle microblog accounts and user accounts?!
15:49:46 <madura> why fedora projects needs drupal?
15:49:54 <rabisg> yes, since yesterday you were talking about authentication thing, maybe I can take up.
15:50:03 <asrob> rabisg, you're right
15:50:33 <rabisg> from yesterday's discussion I think that using FAS is the option we shud go for
15:50:40 <asrob> rabisg, +1
15:50:49 <asrob> did you think about this?
15:50:53 <rabisg> yes
15:51:02 <asrob> any idea?
15:51:08 <rabisg> t first i wud like to as sumthng
15:51:32 <rabisg> do we access the FAS database directly or thru any tunneling method?
15:51:40 <rabisg> i mean like OAuth, etc?
15:52:22 <asrob> well, I don't know, maybe as a web service yes
15:52:31 <rabisg> for example for my university websites, whenever I need authentication we do the following:
15:53:28 <jsmith> rabisg: It's exposed as a web service, that the auth_fas module authenticates against
15:53:40 <rabisg> We send a FTP request with username/pass and if it returns 1 we grant authentication, that works fine except that it is insecure, a malicious website provider can ofcourse store it
15:54:05 <rabisg> ok jsmith
15:54:35 <rabisg> then asrob isnt the problem solved to a great extent?
15:54:41 <asrob> thanks jsmith
15:55:20 <asrob> rabisg, yeah
15:56:04 <rabisg> ok. den again nothing much to do either..
15:57:06 <asrob> okay
15:57:20 <asrob> madura, are you interested in microblogging, right?
15:57:35 <madura> yap
15:58:04 <asrob> madura, any question, idea?
15:59:33 * bckurera FYI : One idea can have more than one application/ proposal, in such situation will select the best proposal.
15:59:45 <madura> actually i'm not have much idea about this.beacause i'm new.I will tell you my ideas later. is it okay?
16:00:08 <asrob> madura, okay
16:00:18 <thunderbirdtr> !
16:00:34 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, go ahead
16:01:28 <thunderbirdtr> About comment parts
16:01:38 <thunderbirdtr> Can we keep free that part a little bit more
16:01:46 <thunderbirdtr> If person want to add comment
16:01:53 <thunderbirdtr> he/she have to login using FAS
16:02:05 <thunderbirdtr> but can we add OpenID style just for comment ?
16:02:18 <thunderbirdtr> or using comment system ?
16:02:20 <thunderbirdtr> eof
16:03:15 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, this is a good question, by default we cannot do this, but I'm sure there is a similar contrib module that does what you say
16:03:17 <LSD> much more better to allow anymous comments
16:03:27 <thunderbirdtr> LSD, +1
16:03:38 <asrob> LSD, yes, that is another option
16:03:50 <madura> yap! that's true LSD
16:04:03 <bckurera> !
16:04:15 <thunderbirdtr> !
16:04:40 <asrob> #info http://packages.python.org/python-fedora/auth.html
16:05:00 <asrob> bckurera, speak :)
16:05:11 <bckurera> It is better making those things can be controlled via admin panel
16:05:21 <bckurera> so that admins can set what to do
16:05:55 <bckurera> allow openID or any other option
16:06:12 <bckurera> so later if any decision will be made, there is no need to code again
16:06:18 <bckurera> just an idea
16:06:19 <bckurera> eof
16:06:22 <asrob> +1
16:06:44 <asrob> right permissions and roles
16:06:54 <LSD> bckurera,then there may be some one have mange this
16:07:13 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, your turn
16:07:25 <bckurera> LSD : of course the infra team will/should handle this
16:07:29 <thunderbirdtr> I just remember one thing
16:07:45 <thunderbirdtr> can we use this for comment
16:07:45 <thunderbirdtr> #link http://disqus.com/
16:07:53 <thunderbirdtr> you can add into drupal ?
16:07:58 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, yes, there is a drupal module for this
16:08:04 <thunderbirdtr> good :)
16:08:10 <thunderbirdtr> eof
16:08:29 <asrob> #info http://drupal.org/project/disqus
16:09:19 <asrob> okay, I have 3 questions
16:09:23 <bckurera> ?
16:09:47 <asrob> does anyone have a question about microblogging part?
16:10:49 <madura> asrob , yap
16:10:56 <madura> what about UI?
16:11:07 <asrob> tatica, ^
16:11:14 <tatica> well...
16:11:34 * tatica will be the one doing the ui
16:12:15 * bckurera , need support in mocks? count me in !!
16:12:24 <madura> asrob, k
16:12:29 <madura> sry
16:12:31 <madura> ok
16:13:01 <asrob> okay
16:13:09 <tatica> bckurera, my hero! :D
16:13:20 <tatica> bckurera, did you check the really awful mockups I did
16:13:21 <tatica> ?
16:13:34 <tatica> bckurera, idea will be port those to mizmo first insight design
16:13:44 <tatica> that's the "design goal"
16:13:45 <bckurera> tatica on artboard?
16:13:48 <tatica> noup
16:13:51 <tatica> let me check on logs
16:14:07 <tatica> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:FooBar.png
16:14:09 <asrob> 2. do we talk about calendar part?
16:14:09 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/ce/FooBar.png this one ?
16:14:14 <tatica> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6771084841/in/set-72157613836974776
16:14:17 <tatica> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6771084853/in/set-72157613836974776
16:14:17 <bckurera> ohh my bad still I need to read the logs tatica
16:14:20 <tatica> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6771084865/in/set-72157613836974776
16:14:27 <tatica> logs :D http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2012-03-23/fedora-mktg.2012-03-23-15.46.html
16:14:29 <LSD> !
16:14:32 <tatica> well... minute
16:14:34 <tatica> better
16:14:35 <tatica> brb
16:14:45 <asrob> LSD, your turn
16:15:02 <bckurera> !
16:15:42 <LSD> asrob,Do you have idea to about loang tem use cases ?
16:15:59 <bckurera> x
16:16:16 <LSD> term*
16:16:34 <asrob> LSD, yeah, I think timezone support is done
16:17:04 <asrob> specific teams, maybe taxonomy
16:17:21 <asrob> so we can filter by views as exposed filter for example
16:17:33 <rabisg> sorry got disconnected
16:17:52 <rabisg> can anyone update me?
16:18:10 <asrob> zodbot integration, we need to write a custom module, I didn't find a module for this
16:18:14 <asrob> rabisg, -
16:18:46 <rabisg> zodbot for?
16:18:49 <LSD> then lets do that :)
16:18:57 <asrob> LSD, do these make sense?
16:19:11 <LSD> yes,
16:19:14 <asrob> bckurera, I have an idea for events as well ;)
16:19:32 <bckurera> yeah please go ahead asrob
16:19:37 <asrob> rabisg, zodbot integration, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_calendar
16:19:59 <bckurera> rabisg : meeting logs so far : http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2012-03-24/fedora-mktg.2012-03-24-15.38.log.txt
16:20:13 <asrob> bckurera, we can use some modules, parts from COD (Conference Organizing Distribution)
16:20:14 <LSD> i gone through that today afternoon
16:20:15 <tatica> back
16:20:27 <asrob> bckurera, or registration module
16:20:30 <madura> !
16:20:35 <bckurera> !
16:20:37 <asrob> bckurera, http://drupal.org/project/registration
16:20:48 <asrob> madura, your turn
16:22:14 <madura> what about mailing list about the project?
16:22:44 <asrob> madura, we use the Fedora Logistic lists
16:22:51 <asrob> for Fedora Insight
16:23:06 <madura> asrob , okay
16:23:09 <asrob> bckurera, your turn
16:23:15 <bckurera> thanks
16:23:16 <bckurera> asrob +1 your idea, it is a requirement
16:23:34 <asrob> bckurera, you're welcome
16:23:34 <bckurera> further as an FAm I would like if the event system has following
16:23:47 <asrob> bckurera, I'm using that for our local community site ;)
16:24:08 <bckurera> we use the wiki to create events and then mannually add them to event page
16:24:31 <bckurera> so in events if we can make this semi-automated thats great
16:24:32 <tatica> !
16:24:38 <bckurera> there are set of use cases we need to cover
16:24:54 <asrob> bckurera, yep
16:24:57 <asrob> tatica, your turn
16:25:05 <bckurera> release parties, FADs and normal events
16:25:06 <bckurera> eof
16:25:11 <tatica> I would love if I can simply fill a form to add an event to the insight, then this fills the wiki... and the day after the event (and a week after) sends me a reminder asking me to add the blogs posts, photos, etc etc
16:25:20 <tatica> that would be so so awesome and make my life easier :)
16:25:20 <tatica> eof
16:25:29 <asrob> +10000 :)
16:25:31 <LSD> !
16:25:32 <thunderbirdtr> or move all events to insight ?
16:25:47 <bckurera> tatica thousands +1
16:26:02 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, billion +1 :)
16:26:06 <tatica> lol
16:26:24 <bckurera> thunderbirdtr better keep the wiki as well, the traditional way
16:26:33 <asrob> LSD, your turn
16:26:36 <thunderbirdtr> bckurera, ok
16:27:49 <LSD> how should calender help to project develop teams?
16:28:26 <LSD> showing milestone, deadlines ... etc?
16:28:27 <tatica> TOO
16:28:32 <asrob> LSD, yep
16:28:37 <tatica> idea is that calendar works for meetings, events and roadmaps and schedules
16:28:41 <tatica> eof :$ sorry :$
16:29:11 <LSD> then what are the special function should design for specific groups?
16:29:13 <asrob> LSD, as a localization team member you will see when it is the string freeze, test days, etc-etc
16:29:30 <asrob> tatica, no problem ;)
16:29:57 <LSD> yep, I have send many mails for fedora project leaders, waiting for there specufucation
16:30:08 <LSD> specifications*
16:30:39 <asrob> okay
16:30:48 <bckurera> FYI : Fedora Schedule , #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/
16:31:03 <asrob> #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/
16:31:05 <madura> !
16:31:12 <asrob> madura, go
16:31:42 <madura> what about the specifications about project "Insight use cases for status and microblogging"
16:32:20 <asrob> madura, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_status_and_microblogging
16:32:33 <asrob> we have to solve these things
16:32:38 <madura> asrob , okay
16:32:46 <rabisg> !
16:33:09 <asrob> rabisg, your turn
16:33:12 <madura> i will send mail with my ideas as soon as possible
16:33:24 <madura> asrob , sorry
16:33:25 <asrob> ok
16:34:17 <rabisg> the discussion is an addition tot the "Insight use cases for status and microblogging" or are we talking about Calendar use cases?
16:35:14 <asrob> both of them :)
16:35:27 <LSD> :)
16:35:46 <LSD> !
16:35:52 <asrob> Insight is a complex thing :)
16:35:53 <rabisg> :) so one option would be to add events just like microblogs..
16:36:16 <rabisg> i mean from the main page you can add events just like statuses and it goies into wiki and Calendar as well
16:36:39 <asrob> hm, it's interesting :)
16:36:46 <asrob> I didn't think of this :)
16:36:59 <LSD> i also had that idea ;)
16:37:21 <asrob> oops
16:37:37 <asrob> okay, do you have other question?
16:37:46 <LSD> yep ..
16:37:48 <asrob> I have to run soon
16:37:56 <asrob> LSD, your turn
16:38:34 <LSD> i have another idea to show all online group members in geagraphical earth widget ..
16:38:35 <rabisg> no, and can doing it from IRC itself sound as a god idea?
16:39:13 <asrob> LSD, good idea
16:39:34 <thunderbirdtr> !
16:39:38 <asrob> thunderbirdtr,
16:39:53 <thunderbirdtr> share button (facebook,twitter,google+, etc. )
16:40:02 <asrob> thunderbirdtr, +1
16:40:09 <asrob> there are some drupal modules ;)
16:40:10 <bckurera> +1
16:40:24 <thunderbirdtr> asrob, I love drupal and it modules :))
16:40:28 <asrob> :D
16:40:40 <LSD> :)
16:40:41 <asrob> ok, I'd like to share my roadmap
16:40:56 <rabisg> what about likes/thumbs up??
16:41:05 <madura> i have a idea..
16:42:24 <madura> what about if we can send the events by emails?
16:42:39 <madura> or through sms
16:42:44 <asrob> at first I'd like to collect your ideas and write it down into a wiki page under Insight section
16:43:00 <asrob> madura, I don't think it is necessary right now
16:43:27 <madura> asrob, okay
16:44:10 <asrob> so you can get more complete specifications
16:44:24 <asrob> with our use cases
16:44:38 <rabisg> asrob:do you want me to send a mail to the logistics list tonight, listing down all that we have discussed?
16:45:17 <asrob> rabisg, it would be good but it's not necessary, I will read the logs ;)
16:45:48 <asrob> tatica, bckurera, do you have any comments?
16:45:53 <rabisg> ok as u say.. :)
16:47:07 <tatica> not -yet-
16:47:21 <tatica> could you guys do a list and send it to the mail with topics we work today
16:47:28 <tatica> I have been on-off because laundru :(
16:48:18 <asrob> okay, then tatica, you can close
16:48:30 <tatica> oki
16:48:32 <tatica> #endmeeting