15:38:58 #startmeeting 15:38:58 Meeting started Sat Mar 24 15:38:58 2012 UTC. The chair is tatica. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:38:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:39:06 #topic GSoC - Fedora Insight 15:39:32 okay 15:39:40 #chair asrob 15:39:40 Current chairs: asrob tatica 15:39:42 madura, go ahead 15:39:58 rabisg, you will be the next ;) 15:40:10 as u say :) 15:40:26 how about the knowledge i want about drupal? 15:41:12 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_status_and_microblogging 15:42:50 ok.. so I have already told you what I have done and what I plan to do.. any feedback on that? 15:42:53 madura, you have to familiar with Drupal itself, contrib modules and api 15:43:13 yes! 15:43:39 i go to little bit api level 15:44:04 madura, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2012#Insight_use_cases_for_status_and_microblogging 15:44:42 rabisg, I like what you have done 15:45:00 #link http://drupal.org/developing/modules 15:45:48 thanks asrob but very frankly it will take me hardly 20-25 days to perfect what I have mentioned, I think we should have some further goals as well 15:46:12 that imo, would like to know from a pro Drupal hacker, what he thinks 15:46:45 rabisg, I'm not pro Drupal hacker, looking for your email, just a sec... 15:47:02 any other question, feedback? 15:47:35 any thing about clender ? 15:48:08 sry calender 15:48:16 LSD, maybe later 15:49:45 rabisg, ah, got it, so the question is how can we handle microblog accounts and user accounts?! 15:49:46 why fedora projects needs drupal? 15:49:54 yes, since yesterday you were talking about authentication thing, maybe I can take up. 15:50:03 rabisg, you're right 15:50:33 from yesterday's discussion I think that using FAS is the option we shud go for 15:50:40 rabisg, +1 15:50:49 did you think about this? 15:50:53 yes 15:51:02 any idea? 15:51:08 t first i wud like to as sumthng 15:51:32 do we access the FAS database directly or thru any tunneling method? 15:51:40 i mean like OAuth, etc? 15:52:22 well, I don't know, maybe as a web service yes 15:52:31 for example for my university websites, whenever I need authentication we do the following: 15:53:28 rabisg: It's exposed as a web service, that the auth_fas module authenticates against 15:53:40 We send a FTP request with username/pass and if it returns 1 we grant authentication, that works fine except that it is insecure, a malicious website provider can ofcourse store it 15:54:05 ok jsmith 15:54:35 then asrob isnt the problem solved to a great extent? 15:54:41 thanks jsmith 15:55:20 rabisg, yeah 15:56:04 ok. den again nothing much to do either.. 15:57:06 okay 15:57:20 madura, are you interested in microblogging, right? 15:57:35 yap 15:58:04 madura, any question, idea? 15:59:33 * bckurera FYI : One idea can have more than one application/ proposal, in such situation will select the best proposal. 15:59:45 actually i'm not have much idea about this.beacause i'm new.I will tell you my ideas later. is it okay? 16:00:08 madura, okay 16:00:18 ! 16:00:34 thunderbirdtr, go ahead 16:01:28 About comment parts 16:01:38 Can we keep free that part a little bit more 16:01:46 If person want to add comment 16:01:53 he/she have to login using FAS 16:02:05 but can we add OpenID style just for comment ? 16:02:18 or using comment system ? 16:02:20 eof 16:03:15 thunderbirdtr, this is a good question, by default we cannot do this, but I'm sure there is a similar contrib module that does what you say 16:03:17 much more better to allow anymous comments 16:03:27 LSD, +1 16:03:38 LSD, yes, that is another option 16:03:50 yap! that's true LSD 16:04:03 ! 16:04:15 ! 16:04:40 #info http://packages.python.org/python-fedora/auth.html 16:05:00 bckurera, speak :) 16:05:11 It is better making those things can be controlled via admin panel 16:05:21 so that admins can set what to do 16:05:55 allow openID or any other option 16:06:12 so later if any decision will be made, there is no need to code again 16:06:18 just an idea 16:06:19 eof 16:06:22 +1 16:06:44 right permissions and roles 16:06:54 bckurera,then there may be some one have mange this 16:07:13 thunderbirdtr, your turn 16:07:25 LSD : of course the infra team will/should handle this 16:07:29 I just remember one thing 16:07:45 can we use this for comment 16:07:45 #link http://disqus.com/ 16:07:53 you can add into drupal ? 16:07:58 thunderbirdtr, yes, there is a drupal module for this 16:08:04 good :) 16:08:10 eof 16:08:29 #info http://drupal.org/project/disqus 16:09:19 okay, I have 3 questions 16:09:23 ? 16:09:47 does anyone have a question about microblogging part? 16:10:49 asrob , yap 16:10:56 what about UI? 16:11:07 tatica, ^ 16:11:14 well... 16:11:34 * tatica will be the one doing the ui 16:12:15 * bckurera , need support in mocks? count me in !! 16:12:24 asrob, k 16:12:29 sry 16:12:31 ok 16:13:01 okay 16:13:09 bckurera, my hero! :D 16:13:20 bckurera, did you check the really awful mockups I did 16:13:21 ? 16:13:34 bckurera, idea will be port those to mizmo first insight design 16:13:44 that's the "design goal" 16:13:45 tatica on artboard? 16:13:48 noup 16:13:51 let me check on logs 16:14:07 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:FooBar.png 16:14:09 2. do we talk about calendar part? 16:14:09 tatica, http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/ce/FooBar.png this one ? 16:14:14 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6771084841/in/set-72157613836974776 16:14:17 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6771084853/in/set-72157613836974776 16:14:17 ohh my bad still I need to read the logs tatica 16:14:20 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6771084865/in/set-72157613836974776 16:14:27 logs :D http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2012-03-23/fedora-mktg.2012-03-23-15.46.html 16:14:29 ! 16:14:32 well... minute 16:14:34 better 16:14:35 brb 16:14:45 LSD, your turn 16:15:02 ! 16:15:42 asrob,Do you have idea to about loang tem use cases ? 16:15:59 x 16:16:16 term* 16:16:34 LSD, yeah, I think timezone support is done 16:17:04 specific teams, maybe taxonomy 16:17:21 so we can filter by views as exposed filter for example 16:17:33 sorry got disconnected 16:17:52 can anyone update me? 16:18:10 zodbot integration, we need to write a custom module, I didn't find a module for this 16:18:14 rabisg, - 16:18:46 zodbot for? 16:18:49 then lets do that :) 16:18:57 LSD, do these make sense? 16:19:11 yes, 16:19:14 bckurera, I have an idea for events as well ;) 16:19:32 yeah please go ahead asrob 16:19:37 rabisg, zodbot integration, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_calendar 16:19:59 rabisg : meeting logs so far : http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2012-03-24/fedora-mktg.2012-03-24-15.38.log.txt 16:20:13 bckurera, we can use some modules, parts from COD (Conference Organizing Distribution) 16:20:14 i gone through that today afternoon 16:20:15 back 16:20:27 bckurera, or registration module 16:20:30 ! 16:20:35 ! 16:20:37 bckurera, http://drupal.org/project/registration 16:20:48 madura, your turn 16:22:14 what about mailing list about the project? 16:22:44 madura, we use the Fedora Logistic lists 16:22:51 for Fedora Insight 16:23:06 asrob , okay 16:23:09 bckurera, your turn 16:23:15 thanks 16:23:16 asrob +1 your idea, it is a requirement 16:23:34 bckurera, you're welcome 16:23:34 further as an FAm I would like if the event system has following 16:23:47 bckurera, I'm using that for our local community site ;) 16:24:08 we use the wiki to create events and then mannually add them to event page 16:24:31 so in events if we can make this semi-automated thats great 16:24:32 ! 16:24:38 there are set of use cases we need to cover 16:24:54 bckurera, yep 16:24:57 tatica, your turn 16:25:05 release parties, FADs and normal events 16:25:06 eof 16:25:11 I would love if I can simply fill a form to add an event to the insight, then this fills the wiki... and the day after the event (and a week after) sends me a reminder asking me to add the blogs posts, photos, etc etc 16:25:20 that would be so so awesome and make my life easier :) 16:25:20 eof 16:25:29 +10000 :) 16:25:31 ! 16:25:32 or move all events to insight ? 16:25:47 tatica thousands +1 16:26:02 tatica, billion +1 :) 16:26:06 lol 16:26:24 thunderbirdtr better keep the wiki as well, the traditional way 16:26:33 LSD, your turn 16:26:36 bckurera, ok 16:27:49 how should calender help to project develop teams? 16:28:26 showing milestone, deadlines ... etc? 16:28:27 TOO 16:28:32 LSD, yep 16:28:37 idea is that calendar works for meetings, events and roadmaps and schedules 16:28:41 eof :$ sorry :$ 16:29:11 then what are the special function should design for specific groups? 16:29:13 LSD, as a localization team member you will see when it is the string freeze, test days, etc-etc 16:29:30 tatica, no problem ;) 16:29:57 yep, I have send many mails for fedora project leaders, waiting for there specufucation 16:30:08 specifications* 16:30:39 okay 16:30:48 FYI : Fedora Schedule , #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/ 16:31:03 #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/ 16:31:05 ! 16:31:12 madura, go 16:31:42 what about the specifications about project "Insight use cases for status and microblogging" 16:32:20 madura, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Insight_use_cases_for_status_and_microblogging 16:32:33 we have to solve these things 16:32:38 asrob , okay 16:32:46 ! 16:33:09 rabisg, your turn 16:33:12 i will send mail with my ideas as soon as possible 16:33:24 asrob , sorry 16:33:25 ok 16:34:17 the discussion is an addition tot the "Insight use cases for status and microblogging" or are we talking about Calendar use cases? 16:35:14 both of them :) 16:35:27 :) 16:35:46 ! 16:35:52 Insight is a complex thing :) 16:35:53 :) so one option would be to add events just like microblogs.. 16:36:16 i mean from the main page you can add events just like statuses and it goies into wiki and Calendar as well 16:36:39 hm, it's interesting :) 16:36:46 I didn't think of this :) 16:36:59 i also had that idea ;) 16:37:21 oops 16:37:37 okay, do you have other question? 16:37:46 yep .. 16:37:48 I have to run soon 16:37:56 LSD, your turn 16:38:34 i have another idea to show all online group members in geagraphical earth widget .. 16:38:35 no, and can doing it from IRC itself sound as a god idea? 16:39:13 LSD, good idea 16:39:34 ! 16:39:38 thunderbirdtr, 16:39:53 share button (facebook,twitter,google+, etc. ) 16:40:02 thunderbirdtr, +1 16:40:09 there are some drupal modules ;) 16:40:10 +1 16:40:24 asrob, I love drupal and it modules :)) 16:40:28 :D 16:40:40 :) 16:40:41 ok, I'd like to share my roadmap 16:40:56 what about likes/thumbs up?? 16:41:05 i have a idea.. 16:42:24 what about if we can send the events by emails? 16:42:39 or through sms 16:42:44 at first I'd like to collect your ideas and write it down into a wiki page under Insight section 16:43:00 madura, I don't think it is necessary right now 16:43:27 asrob, okay 16:44:10 so you can get more complete specifications 16:44:24 with our use cases 16:44:38 asrob:do you want me to send a mail to the logistics list tonight, listing down all that we have discussed? 16:45:17 rabisg, it would be good but it's not necessary, I will read the logs ;) 16:45:48 tatica, bckurera, do you have any comments? 16:45:53 ok as u say.. :) 16:47:07 not -yet- 16:47:21 could you guys do a list and send it to the mail with topics we work today 16:47:28 I have been on-off because laundru :( 16:48:18 okay, then tatica, you can close 16:48:30 oki 16:48:32 #endmeeting