14:29:25 #startmeeting Fedora-MY FUDCon planning meeting 14:29:25 Meeting started Thu Dec 22 14:29:25 2011 UTC. The chair is KageSenshi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:29:25 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:29:34 ok 14:29:41 welcome to the meeting 14:29:45 now 14:29:59 those who have fas, just ping ur attendance 14:30:01 .fas izhar 14:30:02 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 14:30:07 .fas kulll 14:30:10 kulll: kulll 'khairul anwar' 14:30:19 .fas rebelk0de 14:30:19 .fas Jurankdankkal 14:30:19 rebelk0de: 'rebelk0de' Not Found! 14:30:23 jurank_dankkal: jurankdankkal 'Prima Yogi Loviniltra' 14:30:26 damn... 14:30:30 .fas seatux 14:30:31 meng: seatux 'Meng Shen' 14:30:31 lawl 14:30:31 .fas MavJS 14:30:34 MavJS: mavjs '' 14:30:35 rebelk0de, forgot ur fas dude ? :P 14:30:56 .fas sniffit 14:30:57 sniffit: sniffit 'Ahmad Zulkarnain' 14:31:10 ok 14:31:13 that needs to be updated soon 14:31:18 lets get on to the first topic 14:31:25 #topic FUDCon bidding document 14:31:43 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:APAC_2012_Bid_Malaysia 14:31:51 the current bid document is there 14:32:07 with the help of sweemeng, we've got the most recent flight price listing 14:32:19 i will get some t-shirt price and souvenir price tomorrow 14:32:29 .fas MyAzhax 14:32:30 MyAzhax: myazhax 'Azhar Abdul Aziz' 14:32:37 but the priority right now is venue 14:32:46 lol my bad 14:32:57 mmmmm 14:32:58 the bidding will close at 1st january 14:33:10 are we seriously considering APIIT? 14:33:18 what size are we looking for 14:33:23 most apac ambassadors i've met are leaning towards letting .MY run this 14:33:25 for a venue? 14:33:27 yes we are 14:33:34 have u seen the new awesome sound system 14:33:37 so we MUST ensure we can pull this off :) 14:33:54 got abt 26 vlnts now 14:34:18 not so much on the sound system but logistical wise 14:34:29 i'm currently expecting 50-70 sponsored attendees, ie: people who will be confirmed with food, and swags .. and possibly travel cost 14:34:40 how many ppl roughly 14:34:42 sponsored attendees includes volunteers 14:34:44 we have a new logistics manager 14:34:46 no need lodging? 14:34:46 seems good so far 14:34:48 :) 14:35:20 sponsor hotel at least 14:35:20 rebelk0de, i'm not sure about not-sponsored attendees, but for them, target as big as we can :P 14:35:35 ok 14:35:39 meng, there will be a process to apply for funding, but we'll talk about that later 14:35:41 how many ppl were there in pune/ 14:36:17 no offense but they cocked up devfest for google, and now fudcon? 14:36:26 rebelk0de, pune iirc was around 70 sponsored attendees i think .. around 40 volunteers, 20 attendees with sponsored travel .. and around 10 crew .. 14:36:35 do we have alternative venues? 14:36:40 sniffit, suggest us one 14:36:43 * Suresht just lurking 14:36:46 i dont know of any that we can get for free 14:36:56 and can confirm before 1st january 14:37:08 hehe 14:37:16 give the foss sig a chance la sniffit 14:37:18 the free part would be difficult 14:37:20 i believe unikl was mentioned sometime ago 14:37:22 sniffit, anyway, pune was run at a venue similar to UM 14:37:25 they is pulling it together this time 14:37:31 sniffit, we even had power failures 14:37:31 we have a new board 14:37:49 and the internet, while its good, they mentioned that they cut off the internet from the students to give way to fudcon :P 14:37:54 i can turn that free into sponsorship 14:37:55 :) 14:38:34 so rebelk0de , can u confirm we me that we can get the venue around may 14:38:44 please confirm by mid of next week 14:38:48 kagensenshi, how many days are we looking to run the event, and what other resources required (we will have dedicated bandwidth) 14:39:00 rebelk0de, 3 days 14:39:02 Friday - Sunday? 14:39:05 yeap 14:39:13 friday would be a conference style event 14:39:19 dude.. lets set a solid dateline. Next week and week after is PH 14:39:20 weekend would be barcamp style 14:39:26 space, food, beds and drinks 14:39:28 ill try to get by next friday 14:39:37 rebelk0de, ok cool 14:39:40 next friday it is 14:39:57 sounds good, kagesenshi, and 3 days sounds awesome 14:39:59 #action rebelk0de to confirm venue availability by friday 30th dec 14:40:18 great 14:40:19 rebelk0de, get it around may , or if may is not possible, march 14:40:32 any month is possible 14:40:33 eh 14:40:36 not march, april 14:40:37 rebelk0de: your proposed place is a uni? 14:40:42 set a date, so i can push for the specific date :) 14:40:46 jsmith said fudcon apac should happen within 1st march -> 31st may 14:40:47 yeap 14:40:55 meng, yup 14:41:03 try to drop the date during a break 14:41:16 rebelk0de, any weekend in may is ok .. do help to check out if theres public holidays nearby that will make it hard to attend fudcon in that month 14:41:25 so we don't strain the uni's resources supporting the event 14:41:41 ok, kagesenshi 14:41:41 for the record, i'd like to suggest we look for an alternative venue, given the history of apiit has with running 'events' 14:41:51 meng, dont worry. we'll have sufficient resources 14:41:53 sniffit, personally to me , its not too bad 14:41:57 there is a planning unit for that now 14:42:00 sniffit, can you look for one? 14:42:05 sniffit, i dont have time to look for one 14:42:12 sniffit, if you can, confirm by next friday 14:42:13 for march only anniversary sultan trenggano be a public holiday 14:42:14 date too 14:42:41 sniffit, remember that bidding closes on 1st january 14:42:52 we must confirm date and venue by then .. 14:42:55 ok, so we're pushing for march? 14:42:58 .... with long weekend and year end shutdown? could have emailed me earlier ... 14:43:00 rebelk0de, MAY 14:43:11 sniffit, u didnt read the ML? :) 14:43:16 ok 14:43:23 kagesenshi, ok 14:43:25 i posted about it the day jsmith open the bidding 14:43:54 KageSenshi: you do know the amount of crud regardless of filtering still gets passed some time 14:44:11 fine i'll try and dig something up but no promises 14:44:25 projectors, audio, extensions, laptops, vlnts are on us if needed 14:44:48 sniffit, i have fedora-my in my priority filter, ie: posts there always appear in my top inbox .. 14:44:56 rebelk0de, yep, get volunters 14:45:01 ok 14:45:05 back to the topic at hand 14:45:22 as we learnt from foss my .. too little volunteer is bad 14:45:24 we can have 26 at this moment, as MavJS wil tell u 14:45:32 26 sounds nice 14:46:00 now , anyone else want to add anything about venue ? 14:46:08 else we'll go to the next one, budget 14:46:26 transport to the venue 14:46:35 rebelk0de: where's your place? 14:46:40 need some help with that? 14:47:02 transport would be crucial 14:47:07 rebelk0de, ah .. yep will need help for feeder bus from the train station .. also .. will need help for price listings of nearby hotels 14:47:12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_Pacific_University_College_of_Technology_%26_Innovation 14:47:12 hotel - venue and back 14:47:20 sure 14:47:25 price listings can be done 14:47:31 when do u need the price listings? 14:47:45 ok i guess we'll switch to budget talk 14:47:47 before the 1st? 14:48:13 okk 14:48:27 now .. in term of budget .. fedora have allocated a _maximum_ of 15000USD for it .. however, a large chunk of the money will be used for flying people in .. 14:48:35 we must not go over budget 14:48:51 so for safety, i guess we should keep the budget below 10000USD 14:49:04 well 14:49:10 can we find sponsors for the event then? 14:49:20 in kind 14:49:29 sponsor stuff je 14:49:32 which is .. well .. considering we've ran FOSS.my with just 15000 MYR .. that 10000usd should be quite comfortable 14:49:37 rebelk0de, yep, in kind only 14:49:47 rebelk0de, for legal purposes, we will not hold any cash 14:50:03 okok 14:50:03 hmm 14:50:07 +1 KageSenshi 14:50:08 if someone still wants to sponsor cash 14:50:21 but we can make it so there is no conflict of interest 14:50:21 any expenses will either be paid by harish, or pay by ourselves first and claim from harish 14:50:37 rebelk0de, if someone want to sponsor cash, tell them to pay for something 14:50:41 plus by malaysian law we are an illegal organization 14:50:43 ok 14:50:43 eg: flying a speaker 14:50:44 sounds good 14:50:53 but do they get mentioned? 14:50:55 or hosting an attendee 14:51:05 rebelk0de, yeap , that one we can work it out 14:51:06 we are illegal? how so mate 14:51:16 haha 14:51:19 non-registered society 14:51:27 the new bill? >.< 14:51:31 screw that law :P 14:51:31 we are a non-entity 14:51:45 anyway back to topic 14:51:45 no register with ROS 14:51:48 tah 14:51:54 ah..okok 14:51:58 by legal standings none of the communities are legal 14:52:05 but yes back to the topic 14:52:12 no cash held by us 14:52:16 yep, no cash 14:52:22 and sponsorships are to be done in kind 14:52:25 so no need to register company or whatever to hold the money 14:52:38 either sponsor attendees or speakers 14:52:44 sniffit, or stuff 14:52:45 eg: food 14:52:46 or donate essentials 14:52:52 banners 14:52:52 like internets 14:52:56 yep internets :P 14:53:08 would love to get GTC if we could :D 14:53:09 indeed the internets ;D 14:53:15 btw 14:53:17 buses, flight tickers, food 14:53:20 the wireless issues have been solved 14:53:32 look at the recommendation ive given on linkedin to the engineer that solved it 14:53:33 ok .. now .. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:APAC_2012_Bid_Malaysia#Rough_Estimates 14:53:43 for banner and t-shirt i know where we can get the best price 14:53:43 that table 14:53:50 do you think i need to add more stuff ? 14:54:09 jurank_dankkal, provide be the quote for 70 tshirts 14:54:16 jurank_dankkal, vinyl printing 14:54:23 dude 14:54:32 cost for tshirt is a lil steep dont u think 14:54:37 rm 30 for a t-shirt? 14:55:05 rebelk0de, get a good quality one .. though yeah we can get cheaper i think 14:55:13 +1 KageSenshi 14:55:16 rebelk0de, that number, i simply put it there 14:55:42 point noted on quality 14:55:46 and the price 14:55:48 :) 14:56:01 30 sounds legit for a decent quality print 14:56:10 we should have a more solid number before 1st jan .. 14:56:20 considering can get bulk discounts 14:56:25 i already ask my dad to ping some ppl for prices 14:56:44 good metal keychains are at rm12 per unit .. 14:57:09 stickers seems cheaper though 14:57:49 meng, we'll need stickers too .. u know any ppl who can provide good sticker printing ? 14:58:04 with half-cut 14:58:41 i wished I know one, gosh now I remembered that I should have asked around in CF with regards to stickers 14:59:05 sory my connection is not good.. 14:59:06 there is a shop somewhere near masjid jamek 14:59:11 they can print shirts and stickers 14:59:22 will look for their contact 14:59:28 but dun know them personally tho 14:59:32 i think its janggut printing 14:59:32 ok 14:59:42 yea 14:59:43 theres one shop near my office too 14:59:49 thats the one.. janggut printing 14:59:54 baltis 15:00:08 no problem jurank_dankkal_ 15:00:50 http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2004320 15:01:08 #action rebelk0de to provide price listing for nearby hotels 15:01:45 #action KageSenshi rebelk0de and meng to check out tshirt, sticket and souvenir prices 15:02:22 ok 15:02:36 do you guys think we should add more stuff into the budget/ 15:02:38 got specs on the sticker sizes? 15:02:42 i keep on feeling that its not enough 15:02:58 meng, lets just say we'll print A4 worth of half-cut stickets 15:03:02 ok 15:03:11 first list what are the costs: 15:03:16 1. flying speakers / attendees 15:03:17 2. food 15:03:23 3. hotel and transport 15:03:27 4. shirts 15:03:29 5. stickers 15:03:32 6. other swag 15:03:50 7. misc tools .. 15:04:05 hahaha...i was about to write... specialised equipment 15:04:06 :P 15:04:23 8. electrical equipments - rental if needed (eg: power drops) 15:04:33 whats a power drop? :| 15:04:36 i know power strips 15:04:41 rent genset ye? 15:04:43 i mean, extensions 15:04:54 though probably we can ping hitb and rent from them, they have plenty of those 15:05:14 yeah 15:05:16 alternatively 15:05:25 we can also try to get it from apiit 15:05:30 but not sure if that would be sufficient 15:05:31 i think APIIT got alot of those 15:05:37 yeah 15:05:39 there u go 15:05:42 rebelk0de, never seen that thing is enough it apiit :P 15:05:45 we have it as confirmed by mavjs 15:05:46 *in 15:05:50 lol 15:05:54 coz we dun deploy all 15:05:56 :P 15:06:02 haha ok 15:06:06 but then we can never be enough in APIIT :p 15:06:08 in terms of food, how are going about the distribution? 15:06:09 how many we looking for 15:06:10 100 15:06:17 sniffit, only sponsored attendees 15:06:39 mmm vegetarians / non-vegetarians alike? 15:06:40 9. food for sponsored attendees 15:06:52 10. mineral water 15:07:13 sniffit, for non-sponsored attendees, probably we can get those pizza truck to come 15:07:27 KFC ke 15:07:51 sniffit, erm .. considering many apac ambassadors are from india, i'm expecting around 20 vegetarians 15:07:56 coffee tank outside the rooms all day would be nice 15:08:06 cater for more never less 15:08:15 yeap 15:08:34 but yea as long as we have solid figures for numbers that can be adjusted according my 15:08:34 eric said he'll check out the vegetarian prices, but havent good proper info from him yet 15:09:02 and FUDpub? there's a few bars in that area that i seem to see 15:09:07 on and off 15:09:09 lol 15:09:16 u want them to drink in bukit jalil 15:09:22 the pubs here aint that good la 15:09:28 might as well go somewhere else 15:09:34 yeah, sniffit better do the pub thing if there are any decent ones nearby 15:09:49 theyre ok 15:09:50 eric and wariola raised concerns on alcohol .. coz well .. people here can be too sensitive at times 15:09:57 but could be better 15:10:08 they are suggesting a BBQ session somewhere instead 15:10:15 but that is a good point too 15:10:15 +1 KageSenshi 15:10:22 do we even want to have a fudpub? 15:10:42 rebelk0de, we must have a social gathering, .. what format, is up to us 15:10:47 the usual format is fudpub 15:10:54 ah 15:10:54 well 15:11:00 then follow foss.my's style 15:11:01 i see the two suggesting the BBQ isn't here either ... 15:11:03 it can also be a dinner 15:11:04 one section to drink 15:11:14 the other section is just food 15:11:20 yep 15:11:21 oh wait no 15:11:26 we have drink if u like 15:11:33 and dont drink if u dont like format 15:11:46 BYO alcohol fudpub works 15:11:57 byo ? 15:12:07 buy ur own 15:12:10 buy your own alcohol 15:12:14 haha 15:12:26 can do in pub, but booze sendiri buy? 15:12:34 erm .. how about bbq suggestion? 15:12:35 yup 15:12:42 do in a cafe / bistro 15:12:44 you guys know any place we can run one easily ? 15:12:49 dont go to places that have hard liquor 15:12:51 beer should do la 15:13:07 got t-shirt design already? 15:13:13 meng, that can be done later 15:13:19 meng, we can pass the job to the artwork team :P 15:13:34 whats the budget kagesenshi 15:13:49 w/e it is that can be discussed later in terms of BBQ/pub debate 15:14:02 RTL some sellers in LYF already, but this one want to see design first 15:14:10 rebelk0de, how about 500-1000USD ? 15:14:21 rebelk0de, or do you think we need more if theres 70 ppl 15:14:35 well if we are just sposoring the food 15:14:35 it should be fine 15:14:47 rebelk0de, erm .. 15:14:47 as long as those who want to drink purchase their own alcohol 15:14:55 rebelk0de, how about venue ? 15:15:10 rebelk0de: place with no hard liqour = kopitiam 15:15:13 that is my primary concern for fudpub/bbq 15:15:29 KageSenshi: i'd suggest focus more on the more pressing details rather than worry about the fudpub/bbq ... that i think we can wing it later on 15:15:30 errrm.. u want to book the whole place? damn.... 15:15:41 must be halal and er server beer at the same time 15:15:54 sniffit, pressing details is budget for fudpub/bbq 15:16:08 we have to agree that the bulk will be going to flying attendees anyways 15:16:45 KageSenshi: cap it at 1K USD for that section alone for now 15:17:11 make thatn 1.5k 15:17:11 sniffit: no see this place (Time Out Bistro & Pub) 15:17:29 rebelk0de, ok 1.5k 15:17:30 the anything left from after all the other pressing details (other than beers) we push it into the fudpub 15:17:34 +1 byo alcohol 15:17:37 we need someone to handle this fudpub thing 15:17:43 i dun think i can do it lol 15:17:49 MavJS, ? 15:18:14 preferably someone who knows the area well should do FUDPUB 15:18:15 KageSenshi: well, I could assist. 15:18:27 another option lets just go to a restaurant and eat 15:18:28 lol 15:18:33 :D 15:18:36 lol 15:18:40 3000 myr should be more than enough for 70 ppl 15:18:43 dun think we would want to do that dude 15:18:46 Occupy Mamak Shop? 15:18:47 make it a lil more interesting 15:18:59 rebelk0de: how about the lakeside at mines? :D 15:19:01 rebelk0de, grab 2 busses and head to bagan lalang ? 15:19:03 :P 15:19:07 or a Satay chain store 15:19:25 anyway, 1.5k might sound more reasonable budget 15:19:32 ok to quote more, but use less 15:19:34 off tangent ... and you're slowly losing me... medicine kicking in now 15:19:35 than quote less and use more 15:20:15 RM1,5K for 40-50 ppl? 15:20:16 #info fudpub/fudbbq (social event) budget we'll put at 1.5k USD 15:20:22 meng, USD 15:20:35 lakeside at mines sounds good 15:20:43 but then again...where to makan, mavjs 15:20:52 where we can decide later 15:20:58 we need projected budget first 15:21:09 everyone agree on 1.5k right ? 15:21:12 usd 15:21:19 or is that too low ? 15:21:27 i think its about right 15:21:27 more than enough for Malaysian food la 15:21:33 rebelk0de: well, indeed. mines' cafeteria is small. :[ 15:21:34 we are NOT paying for the alcohol 15:21:35 :) 15:21:51 rebelk0de, well .. beer should be cheap enough 15:21:53 +1 1.5k 15:22:09 yeah...but again.. not everyone will be drinking 15:22:10 rebelk0de, bundle from carrefour or something 15:22:14 yep 15:22:17 not everyone 15:22:19 so..not necessary to pay for it :) 15:22:21 anyways 15:22:27 i think sniffit had a point 15:22:33 we've spent quite some time on this 15:22:37 lets move on mate 15:22:39 yep 1.5k 15:22:42 next 15:23:06 responsibilities .. 15:23:20 i guess i'll take the general directing works, and promotion 15:23:32 what works are those? 15:23:35 rebelk0de on venue 15:23:37 whats required 15:23:41 okok 15:23:54 rebelk0de on venue and logistics 15:23:55 i can help with the promotions as well 15:24:00 yep 15:24:06 general promo, everyone should do 15:24:11 okok 15:24:12 MavJS, can u manage volunteers? 15:24:19 KageSenshi: indeed. 15:24:46 MavJS, i'll pass stuff to you, and you figure out who in the volunteers who should handle it 15:24:54 KageSenshi: ok. 15:24:58 if possible, i want more stuff to be delegated down to volunteers 15:25:08 got it. 15:25:19 this is to build up a new community 15:25:31 mavjs, lets call for internal meeting of vlnts 15:25:36 the way foss.my did it was bad where the the amount of control put is too much 15:25:36 will have mailing list setup by tomorrow 15:25:42 rebelk0de: ok. cool. 15:25:57 no new people from the volunteer crowd .. causing the team to die off when the old ppl moved on 15:26:08 or married off 15:26:15 haha 15:26:27 no enough Foreveralone.jpg people 15:26:27 heh 15:26:29 so, well, yeah, more stuff should be passed to volunteers 15:26:32 build the community 15:26:49 MavJS, rebelk0de , i will need the name list of the volunteers 15:26:55 sure 15:27:04 will have it when they've committed 15:27:06 and contacts 15:27:15 and there might be some non foss sig ppl as well 15:27:19 but all will be students 15:27:23 and if possible, some skills traits .. 15:27:24 who do foss stuff 15:27:26 ok la tu 15:27:35 got gurls better still 15:27:50 girls or guys doesnt matter, what matter is that they can do work 15:27:53 but all foreveralone.jpg guys also cool 15:27:59 .... 15:28:11 again totally off topic and irrelevant 15:28:23 sniffit, meng always goes off topic .. u forgot about him? :P 15:28:45 sniffit, been off from irc too long? :P 15:29:01 maybe u can pick some volunteer from numoss (mygosscon volunteer) 15:29:09 jurank_dankkal, yeah we should 15:29:12 KageSenshi: i knew there's a good reason why i stayed off it in the first place 15:29:16 jurank_dankkal, give me a list of names :) 15:29:53 our volunteer count soft limit is 35 .. no more .. 15:30:50 #info volunteer soft limit 35 pax 15:30:58 ok .. i think the next one in topic is talks 15:31:11 anybody who can give talks, please add some session on the wiki 15:31:35 opening a CFP to public ? 15:31:45 yeah 15:31:51 sniffit, will open to public after we win the bid 15:31:52 open to public would be good 15:32:04 need to win it first before any promo :) 15:32:26 kk 15:32:31 KageSenshi: limited circulation first 15:32:37 kageSenshi, i'll contact the numoss member 1st, how many people u need? 15:33:21 KageSenshi: with the people we have at the moment it's better to open to select people rather than having an empty talk schedule 15:33:23 jurank_dankkal, lets just say .. 5-10 .. 15:33:41 sniffit, it is open to selected ppl .. just add into the wiki :) 15:34:03 KageSenshi: noted then 15:34:20 once we win the bid we'll have a more open form to submit talks 15:35:03 +1 KageSenshi 15:35:04 ok .. i guess we're reaching the final stuff 15:35:16 next thing lo 15:35:18 next meeting 15:35:28 is thursday night next week ok ? 15:35:35 oh wait 15:35:53 lets do it on friday night 15:36:03 ok 15:36:05 online meeting on friday night, and offline meeting on saturday 15:36:14 to finalize stuff 15:36:24 on New Year's eve? 15:36:31 i wont be around on saturday dude 15:36:36 haha 15:36:38 but friday night meeting seems doable 15:36:39 erm .. 15:36:53 friday night offline better 15:37:04 ok .. thursday night online, friday night offline 15:37:05 ok ? 15:37:14 im not around for the whole of next week 15:37:15 Saturday tu, would be messy coz of new years 15:37:16 so yeah 15:37:21 offline doable for me 15:37:37 rebelk0de, not around , but offline doable ? 15:37:59 yeah 15:38:02 Friday night can for offline, Thursday tu dunno because of johor day trip 15:38:07 im not in KL from tomorrow night 15:38:25 rebelk0de, i think u mean offline not doable :) 15:38:38 owh 15:38:39 damn 15:38:40 sorry 15:38:41 :D 15:38:53 doing like 7 different things now 15:38:54 hehee 15:39:08 ok .. nvm about that .. we'll just have online meeting on friday night .. 15:39:22 saturday morning offline at IOI mall for those who are available 15:39:43 if posisble please provide the details ready by friday night 15:40:06 the days set then? 15:40:06 so that saturday would only be spent to polish up the bid docs 15:40:12 yeah 15:40:21 ok 15:41:12 #info next meeting is on friday night 30th Dec 2011 , online at #fedora-my .. time is 10pm 15:41:24 kk 15:41:28 sounds good 15:41:44 #info we will be having an offline meetup on saturday morning at IOI mall puchong to polish up the final details 15:42:07 #info saturday 31st dec 15:42:10 friday night decide where to meet up 4 next day 15:42:24 he said 15:42:27 ioi mall 15:42:29 #topic open floor 15:42:35 any other concerns ? 15:42:36 which restaurant la 15:42:45 oh 15:42:56 else we'll end the official part of the meeting 15:43:09 no concerns as of now, kagesenshi 15:43:11 end can liao, decide for saturday the day before 15:43:25 meng, IOI mall is fixed :P 15:43:33 oke 15:43:44 i meant which restaurant la 15:43:56 meng, yep that can be decided later 15:43:57 all right night chaps 15:44:01 sniffit, gnite 15:44:02 am going to crash 15:44:06 sniffit, ok 15:44:16 sniffit, dont get drunk on cough meds 15:44:18 nite 15:44:18 thanks for the meeting 15:44:19 cheers 15:44:20 heh he left 15:44:22 ok 15:44:27 guess i'll end the meeting 15:44:28 o/ 15:44:29 #endmeeting