14:29:31 <KageSenshi> #startmeeting 14:29:31 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 5 14:29:31 2012 UTC. The chair is KageSenshi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:29:31 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:29:39 <KageSenshi> #meetingname fad/fudcon 14:29:39 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fad/fudcon' 14:29:44 <KageSenshi> ok 14:29:55 <KageSenshi> #topic attendance 14:30:00 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar 14:30:01 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com> 14:30:05 <MavJS> .fas mavjs 14:30:09 <zodbot> MavJS: mavjs '' <mavjs01@gmail.com> 14:30:10 <meng> .fas seatux 14:30:13 <zodbot> meng: seatux 'Meng Shen' <seatux86@gmail.com> 14:30:23 <KageSenshi> thats it? 14:30:38 <KageSenshi> YsSeries, u have fedora account? 14:30:42 <KageSenshi> kulll, ? 14:30:42 <YsSeries> Nope 14:30:46 <kulll> ? 14:30:47 <KageSenshi> YsSeries, ok 14:31:00 <KageSenshi> KageSenshi, .fas <yourfasaccount> 14:31:02 <KageSenshi> eh 14:31:07 <YsSeries> I try to get it now ~ 14:31:08 <KageSenshi> kulll, .fas <yourfasaccount> 14:31:09 <kulll> .fas kulll 14:31:10 <zodbot> kulll: kulll 'khairul anwar' <anwarbaik88@gmail.com> 14:31:12 <KageSenshi> ok 14:31:17 <MavJS> ah, there we go :) 14:31:18 <KageSenshi> #topic FADKL2012 14:31:25 <KageSenshi> ok 14:31:40 <KageSenshi> gurdip and a number of others suggesting date change to 28th Jan 14:31:48 <MavJS> yup 14:31:50 <KageSenshi> #info gurdip and a number of others suggesting date change to 28th Jan 14:31:55 <KageSenshi> anybody against that? 14:32:02 <MavJS> nope :D 14:32:06 <KageSenshi> ok 14:32:17 <KageSenshi> so i guess we'll need to spam around 14:32:23 <KageSenshi> MavJS, u do it? 14:32:27 <meng> as long as it does not go into the night 14:32:28 <MavJS> KageSenshi: sure. 14:32:29 <KageSenshi> MavJS, ure in the usual local mailing lists? 14:32:40 <meng> CNY week sure got some dinner to attend 14:32:49 <MavJS> KageSenshi: fedora-my, yes 14:32:50 <KageSenshi> heh 14:33:16 <KageSenshi> MavJS, if u see my usual mail, check the TO: header .. theres a bunch of ml there 14:33:17 <MavJS> KageSenshi: we'll be putting a banner on apiit website for FAD ;) 14:33:24 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok. 14:33:45 <KageSenshi> utposs, osdc.my, ossig, utmoss, osa-cyber, 14:33:58 <KageSenshi> ubuntu-my 14:34:02 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok, I'll crawl through your emails ;) 14:34:04 <KageSenshi> just spam eveyrone 14:34:04 <KageSenshi> :P 14:34:07 <MavJS> ok, 14:34:13 * MavJS puts on the spammer hat :p 14:34:34 <KageSenshi> #info agreed to switch to 28th Jan 14:34:48 <KageSenshi> #action MavJS will be sending everyone update on the date 14:34:52 <KageSenshi> ok 14:35:09 <KageSenshi> #info 200 fedora 16 cds have arrived yesterday at KageSenshi's house 14:35:25 <KageSenshi> so we'll be using some of them for FAD 14:35:38 <KageSenshi> and keep some for any random events 14:35:45 <MavJS> ok :) 14:35:57 <KageSenshi> MavJS, i'll leave some for u to distribute among fossig apiit 14:36:08 <MavJS> KageSenshi: yeah, can i get it on saturday? 14:36:14 <KageSenshi> this saturday? 14:36:15 <MavJS> KageSenshi: we've meeting on Monday 14:36:23 <MavJS> KageSenshi: http://webspace.apiit.edu.my/ver2/ 14:36:34 <MavJS> third row 14:36:47 <KageSenshi> not sure, coz i might be out 14:36:55 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok. no problem :) 14:36:55 <KageSenshi> MavJS, tell them to attend FAD 14:36:56 <KageSenshi> :P 14:37:06 <MavJS> KageSenshi: sure, that's why we called a meeting ;) 14:37:10 <KageSenshi> haha 14:37:20 <MavJS> and for FUDCon volunteering :D 14:37:23 <KageSenshi> i mean, if they want the cds, tell them to attend FAD 14:37:25 <KageSenshi> :P 14:37:31 <MavJS> hahah, ok XD 14:37:48 <KageSenshi> #info fossig apiit will be having a physical meeting on monday for FAD/FUDCon volunteering 14:37:57 <KageSenshi> ok 14:38:03 <KageSenshi> i guess thats it for FAD 14:38:06 <KageSenshi> next topic 14:38:19 <KageSenshi> #topic FUDCon APAC 2012 Bid 14:38:21 <KageSenshi> ok 14:38:33 <KageSenshi> #info jsmith said our bid looks good 14:38:49 <KageSenshi> #action gurdip to update KageSenshi on the bus charter cost by tomorrow 14:39:19 <KageSenshi> one thing jsmith asked, is to have a section for "Why run it in Malaysia/KL" 14:39:29 <KageSenshi> YsSeries, u want to fill that part ? 14:39:45 <KageSenshi> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:APAC_2012_Bid_Malaysia 14:39:49 <KageSenshi> thats the bid document 14:40:10 <KageSenshi> just add that section right after About Kuala Lumpur 14:40:44 <MavJS> KageSenshi: me and YsSeries will get it done this weekend? is that ok? 14:40:55 <YsSeries> Oh okay, I try after I get back my own line 14:41:04 <YsSeries> I am leeching people's line =.=" 14:41:07 <KageSenshi> haha 14:41:09 <MavJS> :D 14:41:27 <YsSeries> with 2 ~ 1 bar signal T.T 14:41:38 <KageSenshi> YsSeries, MavJS , well .. just a few paragraph is enough 14:41:43 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok. 14:41:43 <KageSenshi> or meng /kull want to do it ? 14:41:51 * MavJS votes for meng :p 14:41:56 <meng> we all should add to it 14:42:00 <kulll> +1 meng 14:42:05 <KageSenshi> meng, i've already done most of the docs 14:42:08 <KageSenshi> :P 14:42:18 <KageSenshi> and added about KL 14:42:19 <KageSenshi> :P 14:42:34 <KageSenshi> anyway just fill it in 14:42:39 <MavJS> ok. 14:42:44 <YsSeries> Copy that 14:43:02 <KageSenshi> #info reminder, bid closes on 11th Jan , which is next wednesday 14:43:04 <meng> Add the section on, I go add something when its ready 14:43:24 <KageSenshi> meng, what ready ? 14:43:47 <meng> i am deathly afraid of formatting wikis 14:44:16 <kulll> who else is bidding? 14:44:17 <meng> nvm, next 14:45:02 <KageSenshi> meng, just keep it simple, paragraph and bullet points, no fancy formattings 14:45:21 <KageSenshi> #info Beijing and Manila looks like they might be bidding 14:45:31 <KageSenshi> wait, let me get the link to their bid doc 14:45:55 <KageSenshi> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2012 14:46:09 <KageSenshi> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012 14:47:02 <KageSenshi> thats their bids 14:47:39 <KageSenshi> though beijing's bid looks like it was a bit old 14:47:58 <KageSenshi> perhaps from the first call for bid for fudcon2012 where nobody submitted 14:48:26 <KageSenshi> and philippines bid is quite empty 14:48:32 <MavJS> indeed. 14:48:33 <KageSenshi> so probably they are not bidding XD 14:48:52 <kulll> lol 14:48:54 <MavJS> hehe 14:49:10 <KageSenshi> so we are kindof at an advantage :P 14:49:25 <KageSenshi> serious contender, if they wish to pursue would be beijing 14:49:43 <meng> so many pretty pictures 14:50:14 <meng> plus they got RH CN's support there, ouch 14:50:30 <KageSenshi> and we have RH-SG 14:50:42 <KageSenshi> though not direct support, at least not yet 14:51:04 <meng> nvm, we shall forge ahead and win, or burn in glory doing so 14:51:07 <KageSenshi> daniel of rh-sg pinged me a few days ago asking what they can help 14:51:11 <kulll> we need preety pic too 14:51:33 <KageSenshi> i told them an experienced person to help with the bid document would be good 14:51:38 <KageSenshi> but no news afterwards 14:51:43 <MavJS> :| 14:51:59 <KageSenshi> nonetheless, we are fedoraaa :P 14:52:04 <KageSenshi> separate budget :P 14:52:14 <meng> but CN's idea of having FUDBPUB on Friday has sound reasoning 14:52:33 <meng> get the participants closer first before the actual event 14:53:47 <KageSenshi> meng, theres many ways for icebreaking, but yep, friday night is a good time for the social event 14:53:58 <meng> also, give time for participants to wander around the city for a bit before hand 14:54:20 <KageSenshi> considering we are going for the friday conference, saturday/sunday barcamp .. might make some sense too 14:54:39 <KageSenshi> erm .. 14:54:52 <KageSenshi> ok .. we're already quite straying 14:55:13 <KageSenshi> our priority is the budget, and looks like its almost done 14:55:33 <meng> must put FOC at the electrical and networking then 14:55:47 <KageSenshi> so thats it i guess, the only 2 things left -> bus cost, and why KL section 14:55:57 <KageSenshi> meng, leave it for now 14:56:14 <meng> bus cost have to bug the man for it 14:56:22 <MavJS> yup. 14:56:24 <KageSenshi> meng, already bugged gurdip 14:56:26 <meng> or we need to look for alternatives? 14:56:31 <KageSenshi> i gave him a call just now 14:57:06 <KageSenshi> personally, bus charter is a nice to have .. 14:57:08 <meng> wat happened? 14:57:37 <KageSenshi> we only really need it for pick/drop ppl at hotel, and that can be costless for us 14:57:51 <KageSenshi> the part that i need price is if we want to use for bringing ppl jalan2 14:57:57 <meng> transport for FUDPUB? 14:58:22 <KageSenshi> meng, if we do it at hotel, do we really need transport ? :) 14:58:35 <KageSenshi> like i said, nice to have .. if theres bus, we can probably do the fudpub elsewhere 14:58:42 <KageSenshi> somewhere nicer 14:58:45 <meng> OH YA 14:58:50 <KageSenshi> but its not a necessity .. 14:59:05 <KageSenshi> ok 14:59:13 <meng> if got leftover for budget, what's a little trip for 50 people? 14:59:26 <meng> but we would see 14:59:26 <KageSenshi> meng, no such thing as leftover :) 14:59:39 <KageSenshi> ok 14:59:42 <KageSenshi> next item 14:59:42 <KageSenshi> erm 14:59:44 <kulll> leftover budget =lucky draw 14:59:46 <kulll> :P 14:59:52 <meng> dafaq 14:59:59 <KageSenshi> not exactly fedora related, but probably i should just lump it into this meeting 15:00:03 <KageSenshi> #topic campuscamp 15:00:07 <KageSenshi> ok 15:00:17 <KageSenshi> UTP will be running campuscamp on march 15:00:20 <KageSenshi> apiit, when ? 15:00:21 <KageSenshi> :P 15:00:28 <KageSenshi> #info UTP will be running campuscamp on march 15:00:32 <MavJS> KageSenshi: shall decide after FAD? ;) 15:00:53 <KageSenshi> MavJS, better decide early , can promote during FAD :) 15:01:14 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok. I'll talk to gurdip for it, since he's the booking man :p 15:01:20 <KageSenshi> haha ok 15:01:34 <KageSenshi> any of you guys know other colleges who want to run campuscamp ? 15:02:28 <MavJS> nope. not at the moment. 15:02:51 <KageSenshi> i wonder where the numoss guys went 15:02:55 <KageSenshi> #numoss is empty 15:02:56 <KageSenshi> XD 15:02:59 <MavJS> lol 15:03:32 <KageSenshi> MavJS, when ure promoting fad, send it to the numoss contacts too 15:03:38 <KageSenshi> http://numoss.org/contact-us/ 15:03:47 <MavJS> KageSenshi: ok. 15:04:07 <KageSenshi> ok 15:04:12 <KageSenshi> erm 15:04:21 <MavJS> anything else? 15:04:26 <KageSenshi> MavJS, any tentative date for campuscamp apiit? 15:04:34 <KageSenshi> or still thinking? 15:04:39 <MavJS> KageSenshi: still thinking. 15:04:42 <KageSenshi> MavJS, ok 15:04:45 <KageSenshi> erm 15:04:45 <MavJS> gotta find a good day ;) 15:04:48 <KageSenshi> ok :) 15:05:01 <KageSenshi> MavJS, weekday works too. coz its among urselves anyway 15:05:03 <meng> sometime after FADKL perhaps 15:05:15 <KageSenshi> campuscamp is not meant for external ppl to join :) 15:05:24 <MavJS> ah, ok. 15:05:29 <meng> i know, need to give them breathing space also 15:05:31 <KageSenshi> its meant for ppl inside the college only 15:05:42 <meng> can't bombard people constantly also 15:06:01 <MavJS> around march first week..perhaps 15:06:24 <KageSenshi> meng, not sure whether apiit is lucky or unlucky .. coz the yare the easiest place we can run event right now , heck likely the only place 15:06:30 <KageSenshi> *s/yare/are 15:06:46 <MavJS> :D 15:06:53 <KageSenshi> yep we should find more places 15:06:55 <meng> MavJS: Take not first Sunday of that month is a national holiday 15:07:06 <meng> *take note 15:07:09 <KageSenshi> but nobody want to offer with least string attached 15:07:19 <MavJS> meng: ok. got it. 15:07:25 <KageSenshi> #topic open floor 15:07:27 <KageSenshi> ok 15:07:42 <KageSenshi> i'm thinking of running a Zope/Plone meetup, maybe on feb .. 15:07:48 <KageSenshi> at inigo 15:08:03 <meng> got enough people for plone meetup? lol 15:08:15 <KageSenshi> meng, developer centric, who cares the number? 15:08:25 * MavJS nominates meng to go. :p 15:08:49 <KageSenshi> meng, if i can get bakhtiar, lowks, and some existing local clients that uses plone , thats good enough 15:08:50 <KageSenshi> :P 15:08:54 <kulll> me want learn zope :P 15:09:00 <KageSenshi> kulll, then come 15:09:02 * MavJS too. 15:09:16 <KageSenshi> date havent decide yet, coz i need to poke kaeru 15:09:39 <KageSenshi> though likely to be done after komas plumi event 15:10:05 <KageSenshi> which is 20-25th feb 15:10:09 <KageSenshi> ah crap 15:10:09 <meng> MavJS: sorry, March 1st week all clear 15:10:09 <KageSenshi> XD 15:10:34 <KageSenshi> thats final week d 15:10:35 <KageSenshi> lol 15:10:39 <meng> dunno why my TG calandar got 2 Febuarys and 2 Novembers 15:10:41 * MavJS checks his own calender :p 15:10:51 <KageSenshi> so i guess zope/plone meetup is mid of march i guess 15:10:52 <KageSenshi> XD 15:11:09 <meng> empty productive month 15:11:57 <KageSenshi> or probably i should just run one on 11th feb, and another on mid march 15:12:06 <KageSenshi> 11th feb for now :) 15:12:13 <KageSenshi> zope/plone meetup 15:12:18 <KageSenshi> @inigo 15:12:50 <KageSenshi> ok 15:13:01 <KageSenshi> any of you guys planning other events? 15:13:08 <KageSenshi> or anything else to add/ 15:13:14 <KageSenshi> before we end this meeting? 15:13:18 <MavJS> none so far. 15:13:33 <KageSenshi> meng, kulll , YsSeries_ ? 15:13:43 <meng> nah bros 15:13:44 <kulll> none 15:13:48 <YsSeries_> Nope 15:13:56 <KageSenshi> ok 15:14:03 <KageSenshi> ending meeting 15:14:05 <KageSenshi> 5 15:14:06 <KageSenshi> 4 15:14:08 <KageSenshi> 3 15:14:09 <KageSenshi> 2 15:14:10 <KageSenshi> 1 15:14:12 <kulll> xD 15:14:13 <KageSenshi> #endmeeting