14:01:30 #startmeeting 14:01:30 Meeting started Tue Apr 10 14:01:30 2012 UTC. The chair is KageSenshi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:30 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:35 #meetingname fudcon kl 14:01:35 The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_kl' 14:01:44 #topic roll call 14:01:48 .fas izhar 14:01:48 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 14:01:50 .fas MavJS 14:01:52 MavJS: mavjs 'Ye Myat Kaung' 14:01:54 . vinz007 14:02:03 .fas vinz007 14:02:03 vinz007: vinz007 'Tee Chin Ka' 14:02:18 .fas tysseries 14:02:19 TYSSeries: tysseries '' 14:02:46 #link agenda is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Meeting:2012-04-10 14:02:47 .fas seatux 14:02:47 meng: seatux 'Meng Shen' 14:02:58 i saw jurank_dankkal replied to a thread in ML 14:03:00 .fas msiantuxlover 14:03:01 msian_tux_lover: msiantuxlover 'Eric Yeoh' 14:03:02 just now 14:03:06 * KageSenshi pokes jurank_dankkal 14:03:19 hi vinz007 14:03:32 greetings to all Fedorans 14:03:43 #topic Announcements 14:03:44 Salam Sejahtera and Peace Be upon All 14:03:51 ok .. 14:03:58 #info We will be meeting up at Ampang Park McDonalds tomorrow, at 11am 14:04:07 kulll, did jipang pass to you his sample yet? 14:04:32 msian_tux_lover Hello long time no c 14:04:35 #info meeting is for deciding on vendor for t-shirt, compare the materials and print 14:05:17 ping kulll 14:05:32 kulll, ui u there? 14:05:34 kulll: stop watching your "movies" :p 14:05:42 KageSenshi, do we have the same material as last time Fedora's T shirt? 14:06:00 the one that looked like football jersey 14:06:03 msian_tux_lover, which t-shirt? .. the collared shirt? .. no 14:06:12 yes...the collared one.. 14:06:12 msian_tux_lover, i only take the normal fabric material 14:06:49 the jersey, i doubt it'll look good with dye .. embroidery, yes, but dye .. it'll suck i think 14:06:58 *the jersey-like material 14:07:03 * msian_tux_lover agrees 14:07:23 right now we have 3 possible vendors 14:07:28 1 from my contact 14:07:32 1 from TYSSeries contact 14:08:00 another from jipang_menjerit's contact .. jipang_menjerit couldnt make it to meeting tomorrow , he said he'll pass to kull the samples 14:08:10 ui kulll 14:08:42 ... 14:08:45 [22:08] * Ping reply from kulll: 0.69 second(s) 14:08:58 pardon me are we getting embrodered or printed on? 14:09:10 msian_tux_lover, printed 14:09:18 oh ok... 14:09:36 embroidery for such huge design, is crazy :) 14:09:48 not to mention expensive 14:09:50 yup. 14:10:10 * KageSenshi wonder where kulll dissappeared 14:10:17 anyway .. lets get on to next item 14:10:20 oh wait 14:10:28 anybody have announcements or informations to add? 14:10:32 msian_tux_lover, the dinner 14:10:56 msian_tux_lover, summarize the info here (for the log) pls 14:11:33 RM45 per person....buffet style - 2 dishes specifically for vegetarians (no eggs, onions, leeks, shallots, garlic) 14:11:44 msian_tux_lover, place? 14:12:18 Hotel Seri Petaling 14:12:29 I already have the quotation and menu from the F&B Head 14:12:40 :) 14:12:48 * msian_tux_lover thanks to Cherie Low for her getting the quote 14:12:48 msian_tux_lover, when the latest for us to confirm , and do we need to pay upfront some amount first, if yes, how much? 14:13:17 I will confirm the payment method by Friday the latest. 14:13:21 #info fudpub dinner will be buffet style - 2 dishes specifically for vegetarians (no eggs, onions, leeks, shallots, garlic), place, sri petaling 14:13:33 yay! \o/ 14:13:34 #info msian_tux_lover already have quotation and menu from the hotel 14:13:57 ok cool :-) 14:13:59 I need to stress that it is relatively normal but it is the company that counts 14:14:20 i trust you on the menu, but probably you might want to share it to the ML :) 14:14:30 * msian_tux_lover composing now 14:14:35 ok cool 14:14:51 ok any other announcements/info stuff ? 14:15:10 none from me ;) 14:15:18 ok 14:15:20 the vegetarian lunches - need to go on daily basis 14:15:24 * KageSenshi kicks kulll 14:15:33 I can book but will set me back about RM8 14:15:42 RM8 per person... 14:15:42 don't 14:15:50 don'tknow whether can claim back or not 14:15:55 sweemeng, err? 14:15:58 nvm 14:16:06 >:) 14:16:08 sweemeng, you must lay off the ganja 14:16:21 sweemeng: go read some Java stuff man :p 14:16:39 msian_tux_lover, which method can get you a nice receipt ? 14:17:04 (or a nice invoice .. so that we can get cash early) 14:17:30 hmm...I need the finalised number of vegetarian lunches 14:17:37 msian_tux_lover, ok 14:17:53 ML it please 14:17:54 btw, based on current calculation after updating banner prices .. we have around USD1k buffer 14:18:01 awesome! 14:18:05 not much , but comfortable 14:18:11 indeed 14:18:38 i went to the printing area near berjaya times square last saturday 14:18:46 and the prices there are awesome 14:18:46 at leat way better than USD200 :) 14:19:25 rm1.5 for 1sqft of tarpauline banner , 720dpi 14:19:30 * jurank_dankkal come back to earth... :) 14:19:39 * jurank_dankkal sorry guys.. 14:19:50 rm4 for nylon lanyard, 20mm, hook clip .. 14:20:02 nice 14:20:22 rm375 for colored printing of fliers, 2 sides, 1000pieces 14:20:31 KageSenshi, how to buy coffee and tea ... we pay first or? 14:20:59 msian_tux_lover, hurm .. that will need to think of 14:21:09 msian_tux_lover, but i think we can even buy it last minute 14:21:15 and get harish to pay :P 14:21:20 heh :D 14:21:29 .fas Jurankdankkal 14:21:30 jurank_dankkal: jurankdankkal '' 14:21:43 i'll try to figure out if we can get some petty cash 14:21:54 ok... 14:22:00 Tesco is always open 14:22:03 yep 14:22:16 and it'll be on the way to apiit from puchong perdana anyway 14:22:37 ok next item 14:22:47 #topic review of actions from last meeting 14:22:56 gotta warn to buy in large quantities, its Shah Alam, not Tesco Puchong 14:22:57 #link https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Meeting:2012-04-03 14:23:33 quote/lanyard .. done 14:23:37 upload design, done 14:23:52 MavJS, , ur todos? 14:24:09 meng, ok 14:24:15 KageSenshi: gurdip haven't send me the template. i'm planning to draft by myself tomorrow. 14:24:26 same with the milestone stuff 14:24:39 ok 14:24:45 erm .. next item 14:24:58 MavJS, have gurdip send u letter example invitation letter? 14:25:01 #topic Questions/Decisions 14:25:38 jurank_dankkal: not yet, mate. will buzz him again. if I don't get it by tomorrow evening. i'm going to draft it out using my own was ;) 14:25:58 #action MavJS will be buzzing gurdip for example invitation letter 14:26:04 jurank_dankkal: i'll let you know when i start. cool? :) 14:26:12 KageSenshi: thanks! :) 14:26:24 ok :) 14:26:29 anymore questions? 14:26:45 MavJS, Oke, see u tomorrow? r u going rigth? 14:26:45 KageSenshi: yeah, one. 14:26:50 jurank_dankkal: yup. :) 14:27:01 MavJS, the question is? 14:27:12 For Promo Team, we've done the new fliers but need some editing again... 14:27:21 KageSenshi: in the budget doc i saw that you didn't count in the amount 14:27:29 amount? 14:27:35 for the folks that are asking for separate. 14:27:40 was that left intentionally? 14:27:48 s/separate/separate rooms 14:27:50 MavJS, i added the amount into their budget request 14:27:55 intentional 14:28:00 KageSenshi: ah, ok. cool :) 14:28:08 just wanted to clarify :) 14:28:26 ok :) 14:28:41 MavJS, its stated at the side of the page :) 14:29:09 ok anymore questions? 14:29:17 before i raise mine 14:29:28 haz no more. 14:29:34 me too.. 14:29:42 ok 14:29:46 swags 14:29:50 what should we produce? 14:29:52 stickers? 14:29:55 buttons? 14:30:01 boxes 14:30:02 money? 14:30:06 keychain.. 14:30:07 sweemeng: heh ;) 14:30:12 * msian_tux_lover slaps sweemeng 14:30:20 if no money how to produce that 14:30:37 theres bunch of stuff here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral 14:30:41 sweemeng, dude .. read the budget doc 14:30:44 * KageSenshi kicks sweemeng 14:30:52 ok 14:31:13 sweemeng, process is, we get the invoice, pass it to harish, harish will send cash over 14:31:34 ok then 14:31:37 we should have sticker 14:31:41 i _like_ buttons 14:31:47 it is hard imagine people not sticking in on laptops 14:31:48 * KageSenshi thinks sweemeng is smoking something or just ate something funny tonight 14:31:57 hacking R 14:31:59 sweemeng: +1 ;) 14:32:13 boxes not so much, hard to bring 14:32:14 ok stickers 14:32:19 hard to bring through custom 14:32:31 which design : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral#Fedora_Stickers 14:32:39 Hi guys. I jut want to clarify on one thing, about the Informal Invitation Letter, should be done on a 'letter way' or 'postcard way'? 14:32:56 by box, i mean: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral#Fedora_Cheat_Cubes 14:33:07 the cheatcube is interesting ;) 14:33:12 indeed. 14:33:27 Dean, email way 14:33:42 KageSenshi: cheatcube is nice, and unique down here in .my 14:34:05 yeah. haven't see that one before. 14:34:38 but then when you think about it, the cube is easier to forget after FUDCon than stickers though 14:34:52 ok .. not sure how much it'll cost to print the cheatcubes 14:35:00 urghh... 14:35:01 but i'll check it out 14:35:08 KULLL 14:35:18 theres bunch of box printing shops at the place where i checked the prices too 14:35:44 button badges -> 500 pieces at myr1.2 per piece 14:36:12 my take, cheatcubs and buttons are easily lose item 14:36:21 but also more valuable too 14:36:29 yeah, pro & con :| 14:36:34 yep :) 14:36:51 but i want a button to add to my button collection 14:37:02 30% cubes, 30% buttons, 40% stickers? :p 14:37:21 sticker design : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Stickers 14:37:31 .fas kulll 14:37:32 kulll: kulll 'khairul anwar' 14:37:38 MavJS, thing is ... erm .. the place i went checking the prices, are mass-produce shops 14:37:39 XD 14:37:50 KageSenshi: can we get stickers like the one on your car? :D 14:37:56 i like big stickers ;p 14:37:58 * KageSenshi asked for 500pieces flyer .. the dude said .. "500 only"?? 14:37:59 KageSenshi: ok :D 14:38:03 heh 14:38:17 XD 14:38:27 KageSenshi: can carry over to next event? 14:38:40 you mean really mass produce? 14:38:44 * KageSenshi wonder, there used to be a lot of sticker designs in the collateral page 14:38:46 where they went 14:38:51 sweemeng, yep, print generic designs 14:39:11 we can print 1 batch and reuse for the next 1 year 14:39:16 if we ever have that many events 14:39:29 sweemeng: we _will_ have that many events ;) 14:39:33 hehe :) 14:39:41 sweemeng, we can also pass them to foreign ambassadors 14:39:42 then we can do for 1 year worth of it la 14:39:42 i'll make sure that ;) 14:39:57 harish will be bringing the usual keychains 14:40:02 these stickers look good :D -> http://spot.fedorapeople.org/sticker-pic.jpg 14:40:06 but i do think we should produce something on our side 14:40:26 can't print with this fudcon logo? 14:40:32 make it unique only from .my 14:40:53 hurm .. how about this 14:40:55 MAvJS, Sorry out of topic, I've create this sample email inviation letter, need more editing https://fudconkl.etherpad.mozilla.org/11 14:40:59 1 swag -> generic design 14:41:05 1 sticker -> with fudcon logo on it 14:41:26 jurank_dankkal, you can notify a bit later you know :) 14:41:34 logs -> have a look at this http://www.u-fukui.ac.jp/eng/ 14:41:35 jurank_dankkal, or u need to leave early? 14:41:38 logo 14:41:45 oke2, sorry... :) 14:41:57 http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/collateral/stickers/speech-bubbles.png <<-- how about that? 14:42:21 * KageSenshi remember seeing a sticker set from duffy 14:42:25 not just that one 14:42:36 Attended Fudcon like a Boss meme sticker? 14:42:36 MavJS: that is suitable for name tag 14:42:41 or even tshirt 14:42:48 they have to write on the tshirt hmmm 14:42:51 KageSenshi: if you type "fedora stickers" most of them are from mizmo's blog :D 14:42:55 KageSenshi, you seen the logo for University of Fukui? 14:43:00 sweemeng: yup. 14:43:13 msian_tux_lover, yep .. but i think thats totally off from the meeting :) 14:43:21 :D 14:43:31 msian_tux_lover, or ure trying to raise something? 14:43:45 the Fedora logo and the University of Fukui's are essentially the same 14:43:57 if put the speech bubble logo, need to make a relatively big one, 14:43:58 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/University_of_Fukui_logo.png 14:44:03 ah its nicu's 14:44:04 http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/kit/fedora_kit_a6.svg 14:44:40 msian_tux_lover, and? 14:45:07 back to topic 14:45:14 bubble sticker? 14:45:18 fedorasticker kit? 14:45:22 or new design? 14:45:27 fedora cube >.< 14:45:28 or laptop stickers? 14:45:42 did not know fedorans really dun care abt ripping off some people's logo 14:45:45 i mean, 'powered by fedora' laptop stickers 14:45:50 hhmm, this is a tough choice. 14:46:30 msian_tux_lover, raise this in fedora-advisory-board ml pls :) 14:46:33 +1 fedorasticker kit 14:46:37 if i put a powered by fedora sticker on my laptop 14:46:38 msian_tux_lover, totally off topic for this meeting 14:46:46 sweemeng: well, it isn't :p 14:46:48 people knows i am lying =.= 14:47:14 i think, +1 for fedorasticker kit then..we can get a variety of stickers 14:47:37 any other ideas, folks? 14:48:00 ping TYSSeries vinz007 14:48:04 * KageSenshi +1 to sticker kit too .. but i think we might want to reorganize it .. add the fudcon kl logo there XD 14:48:13 ok ;) 14:48:16 ... then again .. 14:48:27 the sticker kit stickers are not that nice to begin with :P 14:48:36 what? XD 14:48:37 Collect suggestions and vote later on? 14:48:47 ok .. bring to ml 14:48:55 whatever man...your call 14:48:57 bye 14:49:02 next item 14:49:08 woah! :| 14:49:22 MavJS, well, msian_tux_lover is always like that :) 14:49:31 anwyay back to topic 14:49:33 :( 14:49:37 Banner designs 14:49:39 he merajok d 14:49:42 * KageSenshi pokes jurank_dankkal 14:50:07 jurank_dankkal, we're going to produce 2.5*6.7ft vertical banner 14:50:18 * jurank_dankkal yup.. 14:50:31 #info vertical banner sizes 2.5*6.7ft , 2*6ft 14:51:00 for horizontal banner to hung in front of apiit, gurdip said its 8*4 14:51:26 jurank_dankkal, task for your team is .. to dig through the wiki for existing designs 14:51:43 we will be printing around 3 generic roll up banners 14:52:24 which are 2.5*6.7ft 14:52:54 and around 6 x-stand banners -> 2*6ft 14:53:10 you guys decide how many in that 6 x-stand banners should be generic 14:53:28 but imo, keep event-specific design minimal 14:53:43 so that we can reuse the banners 14:53:51 *reuse* +1 :) 14:54:13 i'm thinking of passing out these 3 old vertical banners to other ambassadors 14:54:25 we'll keep the new 3 roll up banners 14:54:39 :o 14:54:54 ah, Dean is still here though. 14:55:09 haha 14:55:21 [22:55] * Ping reply from Dean: 1.41 second(s) 14:55:27 ok he still here 14:55:36 noted 14:55:48 KageSenshi: are we going to use the banner from last FAD as well? :D 14:55:58 MavJS, yep 14:56:01 @jurank_dankkal try to reconnect 14:56:06 cool :D 14:56:36 ok 14:56:55 Dean, btw .. whenever you guys do new designs thats not taken from the fedora wiki 14:57:04 send it to design-team mailing list for inputs too :-) 14:57:33 KageSenshi I tried to avoid from using existing design by producing the new one 14:57:54 Dean, producing new ones -> then you must send it to design-team mailing list 14:58:07 OK... 14:58:12 Dean, they'll help you in ensuring its with the design guidelines etc 14:58:19 Dean, but imo, reuse where possible 14:58:33 Dean, reuse tend to be cleaner and nicer 14:59:28 KageSenshi: Whenever possible to be reuse, we use those resources at max. So far, we sill reuse most of the guidebook design, for poster and banner, we try to make a new one 15:00:08 #action KageSenshi to file design-team ticket for vertical banner and horizontal banner 15:00:18 Dean, it is not necessary to create new design 15:00:19 :) 15:00:29 OK 15:00:48 i'm trying to reduce you guy's work, dont ask for more work 15:00:49 lol 15:00:56 hehe :D 15:01:11 Sure. 15:01:31 Dean, in general, what promo team should focus is the content of the design 15:01:52 Dean, the design itself, we can always file a ticket .. if the ticket takes time, then we do ourselves 15:02:32 * jurank_dankkal also noted for me.. 15:03:34 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Freedom1_2.png this is one 15:03:49 maybe rearrange and put logo 15:04:25 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Artwork_MarketingCollateral_artteamposter_thumb.png this one, the background can be reused 15:05:05 things like that 15:05:09 got wat i mean right? 15:05:12 Ahhh, basically, I coined both things at one, design and content. but for other thing like the guidebook, still on progress by other members. 15:05:17 yeah. Got it 15:05:47 remix where possible :) 15:06:01 ok 15:06:30 next item i guess 15:06:36 (we're already beyond 1 hour mark) 15:06:58 yeah. 15:07:11 #action jurank_dankkal and Dean to pick existing fedora vertical banner designs and remix for fudconkl banners 15:07:56 #info .. it is _not_ necessary to create a new design, reuse/remix where possible 15:08:32 Oke.. 15:08:38 #info for totally new design, we need to send to design-team for review in case of its violating the guidelines 15:08:55 ok 15:09:03 #topic new action items 15:09:20 RH sent me an email earlier for invitation letter for Chief of Minister Melaka 15:09:25 not sure how to write it 15:09:43 #halp need help in writing invitation letter for Chief of Minister Melaka .. 15:09:52 must be in Malay? 15:10:00 hopefully not.. :| 15:10:03 harish said he picking it up, but i think we should work on one too just in case 15:10:05 KageSenshi, i've drafted one and am working with daniel/raymond 15:10:12 ah 15:10:13 ok 15:10:15 :) 15:10:19 cool :) 15:10:24 in anglais 15:10:31 hehe :) 15:10:36 XD 15:10:51 ok thats being dealt with then :) 15:10:55 ok any new action items? 15:11:04 btw, i've just sent out the visa application invitation letters to all those who need it and have updated the spreadsheet 15:11:27 i've sent the letter to their @fedoraproject.org address. 15:11:41 cool 15:12:14 awesome :) 15:12:25 #info harish have sent out visa application invitation letters to all those who need it and have updated the spreadsheet .. emails sent to @fedoraproject.org addresses 15:12:39 MavJS, all their fas emails are working right? 15:12:42 next is to complete the ticket purchase and hotel payments 15:13:02 KageSenshi: yeah, so far no issue. except eltermino 15:13:04 :) 15:13:18 MavJS, i mean .. user@fedoraproject.org emails 15:13:23 KageSenshi: yup. 15:13:28 coz .. well .. i'm not sure if everyone have that email .. 15:13:31 i know you dont :P 15:13:39 heh ;) 15:13:53 anyway, any new action items? 15:14:06 harish, thanks for the updates :D 15:14:27 sure. i have not been able to participate actively on the irc 15:14:55 and if there is still something that i am not responding to, please ping me on email. 15:15:11 harish, which is fine :) .. our main concerns are fund related stuff as its something we cant deal on our own 15:15:23 and yes, i'll ping through email :) 15:15:24 understood 15:16:08 ok :) 15:16:20 next topic i guess 15:16:24 #topic open floor 15:16:32 ok .. any random stuff? 15:16:35 * harish notes that none of the @fedoraproject.org emails containing the visa application support note has bounced :-). 15:16:52 \o/ 15:17:00 they read or not, that is the question 15:17:12 harish, i hope it doesnt go to dev/null .. as it was like that when i yet to have my fas email :) 15:17:21 but that was back then 15:17:24 heh 15:17:52 etherpad the CM invite, we might need it if we need to make a Malay one 15:17:55 sent test mail, didnt receive anything, nor bounce , then realized theres steps need to follow 15:18:13 meng: aye, sir! 15:18:18 well, if they are serious about fedora and want to travel to fudcons, they better not be sending it to /dev/null! 15:18:30 meng, hang on. 15:18:38 harish, i mean.. the @fedoraproject.org address 15:20:18 * KageSenshi sends email to mavjs@fedoraproject.org to see if its bounces 15:20:23 ok it bounces 15:20:24 lol! 15:20:41 doesnt send to /dev/null like years ago 15:20:42 :P 15:20:51 there's a long way to go before I get that one XD 15:20:51 meng, https://fudconkl.etherpad.mozilla.org/13 15:21:29 MavJS, i'll make sure you get yours after fudcon 15:21:40 heh :) 15:21:40 MavJS, coz azneita will be there 15:21:46 KageSenshi: right.. :D 15:21:57 #link https://fudconkl.etherpad.mozilla.org/13 letter to Chief Minister Melaka .. 15:22:02 MavJS: can set up a account for the mopad? 15:22:13 harish: i hope you'll give a talk at FUDCon? :) 15:22:29 MavJS, yes, i will. i have not filled out wiki yet. 15:22:37 i plan on git/openshift something. 15:22:43 meng, i've set it to public 15:22:56 harish: cool :) 15:23:10 harish, http://fedora.my/events/fudconkl2012/propose submit talks here :) 15:23:28 * MavJS was looking forward to hear about: http://www.communityleadershipteam.org/ XD 15:24:14 erm .. 15:24:15 * KageSenshi thinks the open floor item starting to drift out .. endmeeting i guess? 15:24:33 KageSenshi: yeah. XD 15:24:41 ending meeting in 10 15:24:42 9 15:24:43 8 15:24:44 7 15:24:45 6 15:24:46 5 15:24:47 4 15:24:48 3 15:24:52 2 15:24:54 1 15:25:06 tata 15:25:09 \o/ ? 15:25:11 thanks all for attending this meeting .. see you tomorrow at McD Ampang Park 15:25:14 #endmeeting