13:00:00 <omnidapps> #startmeeting NeuroFedora 2021-03-15 13:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Mar 15 13:00:00 2021 UTC. 13:00:01 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 13:00:01 <zodbot> The chair is omnidapps. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora_2021-03-15' 13:00:09 <omnidapps> #meetingname neurofedora 13:00:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora' 13:00:48 <omnidapps> #chairs FranciscoD iztokf 13:01:11 <omnidapps> #chair FranciscoD iztokf[m] 13:01:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD iztokf[m] omnidapps 13:01:26 <omnidapps> Anyone else here? :) 13:01:54 <FranciscoD> ping @MeWjOr 13:01:57 <FranciscoD> .members neuro-sig 13:01:58 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Members of neuro-sig: alciregi @ankursinha bizdelnick blackfile bt0dotninja fangq +gicmo @ignatenkobrain ilgrad iztokf +lbazan major mhough nerdsville sagitter sergiopr victortyau +zbyszek 13:02:06 <FranciscoD> achilleas ^ 13:02:45 <iztokf[m]> Here 13:02:50 <omnidapps> In the meantime I'll add the info topics? FranciscoD? 13:02:56 <omnidapps> You're chaired already iztokf[m] :) 13:02:57 <FranciscoD> +1 13:03:05 <omnidapps> #topic Agenda 13:03:15 <omnidapps> #info New introductions and roll call. 13:03:20 <omnidapps> #info Tasks from last week's meeting. 13:03:25 <omnidapps> #info Open Pagure tickets. 13:03:31 <omnidapps> #info Open bugs check. 13:03:36 <omnidapps> #info Open package reviews check. 13:03:48 <omnidapps> What is koschei? 13:04:22 <omnidapps> #info Koschei packages check. 13:04:34 <omnidapps> #info CompNeuro lab compose status check 13:04:44 <omnidapps> #info Neuroscience query of the week 13:04:49 <omnidapps> #info Next meeting day, and chair. 13:04:54 <omnidapps> #info Open Floor 13:04:57 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: koschei is the CI that tests packages when deps etc. are updated :) 13:05:20 <omnidapps> awesome... pinging one more time then I guess we can get started 13:05:28 <omnidapps> .members neuro-sig meeting :) 13:05:29 <zodbot> omnidapps: Members of neuro-sig meeting :): 13:05:37 <omnidapps> lol 13:05:49 <omnidapps> .members neuro-sig 13:05:50 <zodbot> omnidapps: Members of neuro-sig: alciregi @ankursinha bizdelnick blackfile bt0dotninja fangq +gicmo @ignatenkobrain ilgrad iztokf +lbazan major mhough nerdsville sagitter sergiopr victortyau +zbyszek 13:06:19 <omnidapps> guessing it's just us, but do let me know if someone else joins in ^.^ 13:06:32 <omnidapps> #topic New introductions and roll call 13:07:43 <FranciscoD> #info Ankur Sinha (FAS: ankursinha, IRC nick: FranciscoD); TZ=UTC; NeuroFedora, Fedora Join, etc. 13:09:00 <tg-fedneuro> <MeWjOr> Hey! Am busy today with some work... 13:09:07 <tg-fedneuro> <MeWjOr> Cannot join :'( 13:09:08 <iztokf[m]> #info Iztok Fister Jr. (FAS: iztokf); TZ=UTC+1; NeuroFedora, Python packaging 13:09:15 <omnidapps> #info Josh Santos (FAS: nerdsville, IRC: omnidapps, Telegram: thatnerdjosh); TZ=UTC+7; NeuroFedora volunteer intern, elections, developer, etc. 13:09:57 <omnidapps> No worries @MeWjOr :) 13:10:11 <omnidapps> Guess that's us, we ok to move on to next topic? 13:10:45 <FranciscoD> +1 13:10:48 <omnidapps> #topic Tasks from last meeting 13:11:05 <omnidapps> #info Last meeting minutes are here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2021-03-01/neurofedora.2021-03-01-13.00.html 13:11:38 <omnidapps> 1 sec 13:11:47 <omnidapps> 1. omnidapps MeWjOr : look into Venus to ascertain how much work migration from Pluto would be -- work in progress 13:11:59 <omnidapps> This one, I have no updates on, still work in progress 13:12:56 <omnidapps> But, MeWjOr did start to get Pluto running and started on looking at templates for migration 13:13:34 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: if they're still WIP, please use the action command to reassign them to the folks 13:13:51 <omnidapps> yup, was just providing notes for now, thanks! :) 13:14:19 <omnidapps> #info MeWjOr finish up template migration analysis for pluto migration 13:15:05 <omnidapps> #info omnidapps reach out to figure out where help is needed (if any) on pluto migration - WIP 13:15:34 <omnidapps> #info omnidapps work on updating matplotlib-scalebar -- Done last week (update from last minutes) 13:16:01 <omnidapps> FranciscoD ping https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1809405 for updates 13:16:23 <FranciscoD> we did that 13:16:33 <FranciscoD> the reporter needs to work with upstream a bit 13:16:46 <omnidapps> yup I just saw your comment, great 13:16:54 <FranciscoD> I'm afraid sumatra is a sort of dead project now, so we may need to drop that from the list :( 13:17:05 <omnidapps> Drop from our task list? 13:17:16 <omnidapps> should I do an info update to done for this? 13:18:22 <omnidapps> #info FranciscoD ping https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1809405 for updates -- Done, seems this package is obsolete, pending word back if we should continue to work on this task 13:18:42 <omnidapps> FranciscoD file a bug with infra about neuro-sig packages not marked in Koschei -- WIP: mizdebsk is looking into it 13:18:49 <omnidapps> How's this looking? 13:19:17 <FranciscoD> Also a WIP: caused by pagure API changes 13:19:29 <FranciscoD> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9664 13:20:14 <omnidapps> #info Koschei not listing neuro-fedora packages https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9664 -- WIP mizdebsk is on this one 13:20:43 <omnidapps> https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/pull-request/759 13:20:56 <omnidapps> Looks done, is this good? 13:21:17 <FranciscoD> yep, comp neuro stuff is all done 13:21:28 <omnidapps> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/pull-request/759 -- done 13:22:11 <omnidapps> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849706 13:22:42 <FranciscoD> WIP I'm afraid 13:22:46 <omnidapps> k 13:22:46 <FranciscoD> please re-assign 13:23:02 <omnidapps> is this a good one for me to take? 13:23:27 <omnidapps> or iztokf[m] want it? 13:24:16 <FranciscoD> the spec needs work, I'm afraid 13:24:26 <FranciscoD> I was working with the reporter (see the GH PR etc.), but they dropped out 13:24:35 <FranciscoD> So I'm going to package it myself and submit a review 13:24:56 <iztokf[m]> OK. You can count on me also for review. 13:24:58 <omnidapps> ah, assign to you again, you meant, got it 13:25:05 <omnidapps> sounds good :) 13:25:19 <iztokf[m]> I will review the new version of package submitted by Ankur. 13:25:28 <omnidapps> #action Package bluepyopt: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849706 (MeWjOr, 13:22:10) -- FranciscoD to repackage, iztokf[m] to review 13:25:34 <omnidapps> did I do that right? 13:25:38 <FranciscoD> thanks, I'll hopefully get to work on it this month. Got the COMBINE Harmony meeting coming up next week, so we're busy preparing for that :) 13:25:51 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: I think its action <nicks> <action> 13:25:56 <iztokf[m]> Just send me reminder for review when finished. 13:26:07 <FranciscoD> #undo 13:26:07 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by omnidapps at 13:25:28 : Package bluepyopt: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849706 (MeWjOr, 13:22:10) -- FranciscoD to repackage, iztokf[m] to review 13:26:21 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: here's the command reference: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Guide#MeetBot_Commands 13:26:24 <omnidapps> #action FranciscoD, iztokf https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849706 -- FranciscoD to repackage, iztokf[m] to review 13:26:35 <omnidapps> ah thanks 13:26:48 <omnidapps> #undo 13:26:48 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by omnidapps at 13:26:24 : FranciscoD, iztokf https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849706 -- FranciscoD to repackage, iztokf[m] to review 13:27:19 <omnidapps> #action FranciscoD repackage bluepyopt per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1849706 13:27:26 <FranciscoD> ++ 13:27:52 <omnidapps> Alright, should I follow through MeWjOr WiP tasks as WiP til he can respond about them? :) 13:28:07 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: best to quickly reassign them and move on :) 13:28:16 <FranciscoD> (so that they can be checked on in future meetings) 13:28:18 <omnidapps> #info MeWjOr complete https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1821189 : snakemake -- WIP, more deps 13:28:34 <omnidapps> #action MeWjOr Fix deps for snakemake and proceed with the review. 13:28:38 <omnidapps> ok moving on 13:28:50 <omnidapps> #topic Open Pagure tickets. 13:29:16 <omnidapps> #info Tickets marked for discussion: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting 13:29:56 <omnidapps> #info Presence at the INCF neuroinformatics assembly: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/427 13:30:06 <omnidapps> #undo 13:30:06 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by omnidapps at 13:29:56 : Presence at the INCF neuroinformatics assembly: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/427 13:30:08 <omnidapps> https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/427 13:30:36 <omnidapps> How is this looking FranciscoD 13:30:43 <FranciscoD> they've just opened registration 13:30:56 <FranciscoD> and I need to attend it for the INCF Software WG anyway, so we'll submit a poster or something here 13:31:10 <FranciscoD> I need to check up what track etc would be best. Please assign the ticket to me 13:31:16 <omnidapps> k 13:31:21 <FranciscoD> and a task too for the logs I guess 13:31:37 <omnidapps> #info FranciscoD https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/427 -- WIP 13:31:54 <FranciscoD> #info INCF Assembly: Deadline for abstract submission: 31st March 2021 13:31:58 <omnidapps> Can I even assign it to you? 13:32:18 <omnidapps> you already assigned 13:32:21 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: the ticket is already assigned to me (but yes, you should be able to assign tickets to folks) 13:32:22 <FranciscoD> yeh 13:32:48 <omnidapps> #info Use Pluto instead of Venus: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/421 -- WIP 13:32:50 <omnidapps> Ok moving on 13:33:11 <omnidapps> #topic Open bugs check. 13:33:34 <omnidapps> oops x) 13:33:39 <omnidapps> I missed one task, we can undo 13:33:43 <omnidapps> https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs 13:33:51 <omnidapps> https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/318 13:34:21 <FranciscoD> which one? 13:34:23 <FranciscoD> the reading list? 13:34:26 <omnidapps> #318 yea 13:34:38 <FranciscoD> we can deal with that later in the "query of the week" topic 13:34:41 <omnidapps> k 13:34:49 <FranciscoD> I think we tend to do that anyway 13:35:13 <omnidapps> Open bugs... there is a lot here 13:35:59 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: we prioritise any bugs: i.e. crashes etc 13:36:15 <FranciscoD> bugs for new versions etc are not too important: we get to them whenever we find the time 13:36:21 <omnidapps> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1926362 13:36:25 <FranciscoD> (unless an update includes important bug-fixes, that is) 13:36:28 <omnidapps> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1926356 13:36:48 <omnidapps> These too since new versions python issues? 13:36:59 <FranciscoD> Yeh, they're important for F35 13:37:04 <FranciscoD> when python3.10 will be default 13:37:18 <omnidapps> ok so we got some time, or should start considering now? 13:37:31 <FranciscoD> if folks have time, please work on them 13:37:40 <omnidapps> k, adding item and moving on 13:37:45 <FranciscoD> the python-sig starts filing them super-early so that we maintainers have time to work with upstream 13:38:03 <FranciscoD> these two look like simple fixes, could send patches upstream 🤔 13:38:38 * FranciscoD adds sciunit bug to tasklist 13:38:43 <omnidapps> #info let's work on python 3.10 issues when we have time, will be urgent for F35 support https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs 13:38:57 <FranciscoD> ++ 13:39:14 <omnidapps> #info sciunit upgrade should be simple -- FranciscoD to work on this 13:39:16 <omnidapps> moving on :) 13:39:36 <omnidapps> #topic Open package reviews check. 13:40:08 <omnidapps> Is this where I look? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro 13:40:11 <fm-neuro> pagure.pull-request.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on PR #1 on rpms/python-stdlib-list https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-stdlib-list/pull-request/1#comment-70021 13:40:22 <fm-neuro> pagure.git.receive -- ankursinha pushed 1 commit to rpms/python-stdlib-list (rawhide) https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-stdlib-list/tree/rawhide 13:40:25 <fm-neuro> pagure.pull-request.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on PR #1 on rpms/python-stdlib-list https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-stdlib-list/pull-request/1#comment-70022 13:40:26 <fm-neuro> pagure.pull-request.closed -- ankursinha merged pull request #1 on rpms/python-stdlib-list https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-stdlib-list/pull-request/1 13:40:38 <omnidapps> where do I look for package review checks 13:40:39 <FranciscoD> omnidapps: yes, in that tracker bugs, look at the "blocking" bugs 13:40:43 <omnidapps> k 13:41:01 <FranciscoD> you may need to click "show advanced fields" on the right 13:41:14 <FranciscoD> and then you'll see a huge list of "depends on" bugs pop up XD 13:41:19 <FranciscoD> most are closed, luckily :P 13:41:25 <omnidapps> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1809405 13:41:44 <omnidapps> same from earlier 13:41:48 <omnidapps> got to drop it from the list 13:42:12 <FranciscoD> if you hover your mouse over the link, it should show the bug summary etc 13:42:39 <omnidapps> k they all show as assigned so we should be good to move on? 13:42:52 <FranciscoD> yeh, I guess so: they're all WIPs 13:43:13 <omnidapps> #info Look here at depends on field for all of the in progress package reviews: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro 13:43:40 <omnidapps> #topic Koschei packages check. 13:43:47 <omnidapps> #info Neuro-sig packages on Koschei: https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/groups/neuro-sig 13:43:49 <FranciscoD> bugzilla also has the "tree view" which shows full descriptions etc 13:44:01 <omnidapps> This one we can move on from since it seems this is still WIP, right? 13:44:10 <FranciscoD> Yeh, it's not tracking all our packages at the moment :( 13:44:29 <omnidapps> #info see open task to work on fixing our package visibility 13:44:39 <fm-neuro> pagure.git.receive -- ankursinha pushed 1 commit to rpms/python-stdlib-list (f34) https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-stdlib-list/tree/f34 13:44:42 <omnidapps> #topic CompNeuro lab compose status check 13:44:44 <omnidapps> This is done right? 13:45:18 <FranciscoD> I think we're in good shape there 13:45:20 <FranciscoD> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691 13:45:24 <omnidapps> yup it looks green 13:45:33 <FranciscoD> rawhide + f34 both passing 👏 13:45:37 <omnidapps> #info looking good, image builds here https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691 13:45:47 <omnidapps> #topic Neuroscience query of the week 13:45:58 <omnidapps> #info If you find anything interesting, add it to this ticket here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/318 13:46:18 <omnidapps> FranciscoD anything you want to share here ^.^? 13:46:23 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#318: "NeuroFedora reading/listening list" https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/318#comment-721151 13:46:28 <FranciscoD> just this: https://docs.neuroml.org/Events/202103-Harmony.html 13:46:34 <FranciscoD> for anyone that would like to get started with NeuroML 13:46:50 <FranciscoD> not seen anything else recently, but not had much time to keep up with RSS feeds :( 13:47:00 <omnidapps> #info For those interested in starting with NeuroML: https://docs.neuroml.org/Events/202103-Harmony.html 13:47:07 <omnidapps> Is NeuroML easy? 13:47:14 <omnidapps> I am new to ML in general x) 13:47:18 <omnidapps> but sounds cool 13:47:36 <FranciscoD> it isn't ML related at all :P 13:47:37 <fm-neuro> pagure.commit.flag.added -- Build completed added a flag on the commit 44285715 of the project rpms/python-stdlib-list https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-stdlib-list/c/44285715685eeeb8d3f1874ec40ccec0e8def1c9 13:47:39 <FranciscoD> it's a modelling language 13:47:41 <omnidapps> ah 13:47:50 <FranciscoD> for computational models in neuroscience :) 13:48:00 <FranciscoD> the next version will be more neural-network friendly perhaps 13:48:13 <omnidapps> Alright folks, looks like we are done with this meeting, time to plan next day/time/chair :) then we can have an open floor 13:48:14 <FranciscoD> https://github.com/OCNS/SoftwareWG/discussions/11 13:48:30 <omnidapps> #info https://github.com/OCNS/SoftwareWG/discussions/11 13:48:39 <omnidapps> #topic Next meeting: time/day/chair 13:48:55 <omnidapps> Who wants to chair :) 13:49:08 <fm-neuro> pagure.issue.comment.edited -- ankursinha edited a comment on ticket neuro-sig/NeuroFedora#318: "NeuroFedora reading/listening list" https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/318#comment-721151 13:49:35 <FranciscoD> in 2 weeks, let me check my calendar once 13:50:03 <FranciscoD> Yeh, I should be able to do it 13:50:08 <omnidapps> 03/29/2021 @ 13:00 UTC ok? 13:50:33 <FranciscoD> +1 13:50:44 <iztokf[m]> +1 13:50:44 <omnidapps> #info Next meeting will be chaired by FranciscoD and will occur on 29/03/2021 @13:00 UTC 13:51:06 <fm-neuro> pagure.commit.flag.added -- Build completed added a flag on the commit 44285715 of the project rpms/python-stdlib-list https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-stdlib-list/c/44285715685eeeb8d3f1874ec40ccec0e8def1c9 13:51:09 <omnidapps> #action FranciscoD to chair next meeting 13:51:16 <omnidapps> #action omnidapps to send out meeting logs 13:51:24 <omnidapps> #topic open-floor 13:51:43 <omnidapps> 9 mins remaining *phew* 13:52:03 <FranciscoD> :D 13:52:50 <FranciscoD> thanks very much omnidapps 13:53:00 <omnidapps> I guess a random sort of related (?) thing I started to read is "Algorithms to Live By" 13:53:06 <omnidapps> That book has been pretty cool 13:53:07 <FranciscoD> #action omnidapps send out logs to mailing lists 13:53:14 <FranciscoD> oo, sounds good. Got a link? 13:53:29 <omnidapps> https://www.amazon.com/Algorithms-Live-Computer-Science-Decisions/dp/1627790365 13:53:41 * FranciscoD adds to reading list 13:53:51 <omnidapps> yeah it's a really awesome read 13:54:21 <omnidapps> Anything else anyone got to discuss, guess we could end 5 mins early if not ^.^ 13:54:35 <FranciscoD> added to my super long list of books to read on goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/32360473-ankur 13:54:46 <FranciscoD> is there a FOSS alternative to goodreads? 🤔 13:54:57 <omnidapps> hehe, I'd move this up a little bit :P it's definitely pretty useful I'd say 13:55:03 <omnidapps> idk, just now learned about goodreads 13:55:33 <omnidapps> Alright thank you guys! :) 13:55:41 <FranciscoD> thanks omnidapps , good to close :) 13:55:42 <omnidapps> #endmeeting