13:02:29 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2021-06-21 13:02:29 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Jun 21 13:02:29 2021 UTC. 13:02:29 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 13:02:29 <zodbot> The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:02:29 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:02:29 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora_-_2021-06-21' 13:02:41 <FranciscoD> #meetingname neurofedora 13:02:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'neurofedora' 13:02:53 <FranciscoD> #chair achilleas bt0 coremodule jnsamyak major_ principis zyn-kun[m] 13:02:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD achilleas bt0 coremodule jnsamyak major_ principis zyn-kun[m] 13:03:23 <FranciscoD> #topic Agenda 13:03:29 <FranciscoD> #info New introductions and roll call. 13:03:33 <FranciscoD> #info Tasks from last week's meeting. 13:03:40 <FranciscoD> #info Open Pagure tickets. 13:03:49 <FranciscoD> #info Package health check. 13:03:53 <FranciscoD> #info Open package reviews check. 13:03:58 <FranciscoD> #info CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 35. 13:04:03 <FranciscoD> #info Neuroscience query of the week 13:04:08 <FranciscoD> #info Next meeting day, and chair. 13:04:13 <FranciscoD> #info Open floor. 13:04:30 <FranciscoD> The agenda and other information is announced on the blog and the mailing lists: https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2021/06/21/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-21-june-1300-utc.html 13:04:49 <FranciscoD> #topic New introductions and roll call 13:05:06 <FranciscoD> If you are new here, please introduce yourself 13:05:35 <FranciscoD> #info Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD), FAS: ankursinha, UTC+1; Packaging, NeuroFedora, general Fedora tasks 13:05:39 <FranciscoD> major_: here? 13:05:42 <MeWjOr> #info major/MeWjOr, Aniket Pradhan, +5:30, interested in packaging, neuro, and am a user :D 13:05:49 <FranciscoD> #chair MeWjOr 13:05:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr achilleas bt0 coremodule jnsamyak major_ principis zyn-kun[m] 13:05:57 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: two nicks in the room today? :D 13:06:12 <MeWjOr> ahh... major_ is my freebnc account... 13:06:19 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr++ 13:06:24 <MeWjOr> I use it to read messages when im offline :P 13:06:32 <FranciscoD> let's wait a few minutes for others to join 13:06:45 <FranciscoD> the telegram bridges being down is unfortunate, it's split folks :/ 13:06:52 <MeWjOr> you could probably unchair major_ :/ 13:06:55 * FranciscoD still hasn't figured out why zodbot isn't changing topics 13:07:16 <FranciscoD> let's see if that helps.. 13:07:26 <MeWjOr> Probably zodbot also got affected from the change 13:08:15 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: no harm letting it be chaired 13:08:27 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: yeh, maybe we haven't set the irc permissions up correctly for zodbot 13:08:39 <FranciscoD> I couldn't see any thing off though, will check again after the meeting 13:09:06 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: is this your registered libera nick? 13:09:19 <FranciscoD> I'll add it as a channel op if it is? 13:09:53 <MeWjOr> yep, it is 13:10:23 <FranciscoD> ok, one sec 13:11:14 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: there you go, try opping yourself? 13:11:24 <FranciscoD> -> /query chanserv op #fedora-neuro MeWjOr 13:11:38 <principis> Hi, I'm new here, just watching for the time being :) 13:11:46 <FranciscoD> welcome principis :) 13:11:48 <FranciscoD> #chair principis 13:11:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MeWjOr achilleas bt0 coremodule jnsamyak major_ principis zyn-kun[m] 13:11:57 <MeWjOr> I think it worked 13:12:09 <FranciscoD> principis: would you like to introduce yourself with a few sentences? :) 13:12:14 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: yep. worked :) 13:12:26 <MeWjOr> So, I am now an "OP" in this channel? Lemme google about it :P 13:13:41 <principis> Sure :). I'm Arthur Bols, FAS: principis, UTC+1, I'm nterested in packaging and currently a Computer Science student at the KU Leuven. 13:13:48 <FranciscoD> principis++ 13:13:48 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Karma for principis changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:13:56 <FranciscoD> principis: that's awesome, welcome again :) 13:14:06 <principis> Thank you :) 13:14:06 <FranciscoD> principis: if there's anyting we can help with at all, please do let us know :) 13:14:10 <FranciscoD> .thank principis 13:14:10 <zodbot> FranciscoD thinks principis is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type principis++ since that is what gives them a cookie) 13:14:18 <MeWjOr> Hello Art! Glad you could join today! :D 13:14:30 <MeWjOr> principis++ 13:14:30 <zodbot> MeWjOr: Karma for principis changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 13:14:46 <principis> Hi MeWjOr :) 13:14:49 <FranciscoD> let's move on with the agenda now, please stop me anytime you need to 13:15:02 <FranciscoD> #topic Tasks from last meeting 13:15:16 <FranciscoD> aha, there goes zodbot, looks like I "fixed" it XD 13:15:26 <FranciscoD> #info Minutes from last meeting are here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/neurofedora/neurofedora.2021-06-07-13.03.html 13:15:39 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD debug why zodbot won't change topic in channel: DONE 13:15:53 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr add new packages to docs + neuro-sig + koschei -- done now I think? 13:16:30 <MeWjOr> I still have to add them in the docs... neuro-sig is done. 13:16:46 <MeWjOr> Kind of unsure of koschei, but let me check 13:17:00 <FranciscoD> ok, I periodically update the koschei list, so they'll get added eventually 13:17:15 <FranciscoD> #info MeWjOr add new packages to docs + neuro-sig + koschei: DONE 13:17:23 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr add new packages to docs 13:17:32 <FranciscoD> -> MeWjOr continue with snakemake package 13:17:39 <FranciscoD> still working on deps here? 13:17:55 <MeWjOr> Almost done, with two more deps left... The snakemake spec has also passed the review 13:18:08 <FranciscoD> #info Snakemake spec has passed review 13:18:20 <MeWjOr> one of the deps is up for review... 13:18:27 <FranciscoD> OK, I'll re-action it just to have it in the logs 13:18:39 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr finish packaging remaining Snakemake deps 13:18:39 <MeWjOr> Sure 13:18:48 <FranciscoD> -> neuro-sig go over their packages to fix FTBFS and FTI bugs 13:19:04 <MeWjOr> python-configargparse is up for review over here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1914818 13:19:10 <FranciscoD> this is a WIP, although the number of FTBFS (failed to build from source) and FTI (failed to install) bugs have reduced quite a bit now 13:19:31 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: I'm surprised that wasn't in the repos already. Let's tackle that in the pending reviews topic 13:19:33 * FranciscoD notes 13:19:47 <FranciscoD> #nick neuro-sig 13:19:58 <FranciscoD> #action neuro-sig go over their packages to fix FTBFS and FTI bugs: WIP 13:20:11 <FranciscoD> those were all our tasks, moving on to next topic 13:20:20 <FranciscoD> #info Open Pagure tickets. 13:20:32 <FranciscoD> #info Tickets are here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting 13:20:44 <FranciscoD> Just the usual two 13:20:52 <MeWjOr> I shared the wrong bug... its python-connection_pool that is up for review. 13:21:05 <MeWjOr> configargparse fails to build to py3.10 13:21:08 <MeWjOr> :( 13:21:08 <FranciscoD> uh 13:21:10 <FranciscoD> :/ 13:21:37 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: nerdsville said they're on leave for a bit, no? They'll look into the pluto ticket on their return? 13:22:07 <MeWjOr> From what I recall yes. We had to work on the template for Pluto 13:22:17 <MeWjOr> to make it more similar to the current site... 13:22:28 <FranciscoD> Yeh, that's low priority so we'll get to it at some point 13:22:32 <MeWjOr> they both don't share the same template format unfotunately :/ 13:22:58 <FranciscoD> yeh, that was my primary concern when moving from the rather old venus tool to a new pluto tool 13:23:15 <FranciscoD> but it isn't urgent, since venus still "works" for the moment 13:23:26 <FranciscoD> we'll revisit this ticket later 13:23:35 <FranciscoD> #topic Package health check. 13:23:55 <FranciscoD> #info Please take a look at the packages dashboard for the Neuro-SIG here: https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/neuro-sig 13:24:59 <FranciscoD> A few new releases, but mostly FTBFS and FTI bugs in rawhide (F35) 13:25:09 <FranciscoD> Quite a few of them are because of broken dependencies, so they're slowly being sorted out 13:25:27 <MeWjOr> Most FTBFS are from py3.10 and broken deps 13:25:28 <MeWjOr> ye 13:25:55 <FranciscoD> Yeh: a few aren't ready for Python 3.10 yet too, so they'll need to be reported upstream 13:26:05 <FranciscoD> and where possible patched, and the patches sent upstream 13:26:33 <FranciscoD> there's some time to do this but we should aim to fix these before F35 branches from rawhide on August 10 13:26:43 <FranciscoD> #info F35 branches from rawhide on 10 Aug 13:26:52 <FranciscoD> So that's about ~6 weeks 13:28:03 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: you see anything urgent that needs fixing ASAP? 13:28:44 <MeWjOr> Not exactly... 13:29:06 <MeWjOr> But 6 weeks looks like a lot less time... since a lot of upstream projects haven't started development on py3.10 13:30:22 <FranciscoD> Yeh, I guess what we can do for a start is triage and file issues upstream 13:30:35 <FranciscoD> as long as we're aware of the bugs, the packages are safe 13:31:10 <MeWjOr> Yep... 13:31:34 <FranciscoD> #info Neuro-sig folks: start 13:31:37 <FranciscoD> #undo 13:31:37 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by FranciscoD at 13:31:34 : Neuro-sig folks: start 13:32:01 <FranciscoD> #action neuro-sig start going over python3.10 bugs and filing upstream issues where necessary for a start 13:32:25 <FranciscoD> #info Packages are healthy, only Py3.10 related issues on rawhide at the moment 13:32:32 <FranciscoD> #topic Open package reviews check 13:32:50 <FranciscoD> #info Neuro-SIG packging tracker bug is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro 13:33:19 <FranciscoD> #info If you look at the "depends on" under "advanced options", you'll see all reviews that are currently in progress 13:34:20 <FranciscoD> #info python-stopit, python-connection_pool, Snakemake, python-spikeextractors are in review 13:35:17 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: are your reviews all assigned? 13:35:36 <MeWjOr> python-connection_pool is unassigned yet 13:36:02 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: worth asking for a quick review-swap on -devel? 13:36:05 <MeWjOr> Got some great reviews from principis, Rafael and Ben on python-stopit 13:36:15 <MeWjOr> Would do :D 13:36:21 <FranciscoD> awesome 13:36:38 <FranciscoD> always good to make sure we keep swapping reviews with the complete package maintainer community :) 13:36:51 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr ask for review swap for python-connection_pool on devel list 13:37:03 <FranciscoD> #topic CompNeuro lab compose status check for Fedora 35. 13:37:18 <FranciscoD> #info Compose task on Koji: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691 13:37:24 <FranciscoD> Look fine, 13:37:39 <FranciscoD> #info Last successful compose was today: 2021-06-21 08:40:37 13:37:49 <FranciscoD> #topic Neuroscience query of the week 13:37:58 <FranciscoD> Anything here? 13:38:21 <FranciscoD> I'd added a few bits to our reading list here: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/318 13:38:29 <FranciscoD> mostly around peer-review and open access publishing 13:40:07 <FranciscoD> OK, let's move on and finish up then :) 13:40:16 <FranciscoD> #topic Next meeting day, and chair. 13:40:46 <FranciscoD> next meeting should be in 2 weeks at the same time on 5th july 13:41:06 <FranciscoD> I'm expected to be at CNS*2021 though, so I may not make it 13:41:21 <MeWjOr> Ohh... maybe then 3 weeks? 13:41:23 <FranciscoD> the complete schedule has not yet been announced: https://www.cnsorg.org/cns-2021 13:41:32 <fm-neuro> 15pagure.issue.comment.added -- masch commented on ticket fedora-join/Welcome-to-Fedora#54: "Welcome to Fedora @masch " 10https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Welcome-to-Fedora/issue/54#comment-739641 13:41:43 <MeWjOr> Are we presenting something in CNS this time 13:41:45 <MeWjOr> ? 13:42:28 <FranciscoD> Yes, we have a showcase on NeuroFedora: https://www.cnsorg.org/cns-2021-tutorials#S3 13:42:32 <FranciscoD> should be on July 3 13:42:51 <MeWjOr> Oooh, great 13:43:04 <FranciscoD> The software WG is also doing some tutorials: https://ocns.github.io/SoftwareWG/2021/06/09/software-wg-tutorials-at-cns-2021-online-bash-git-and-python.html 13:43:18 <FranciscoD> but CNS*2021 is not free this year, so I expect fewer numbers of folks to attend :/ 13:43:44 <MeWjOr> :( 13:44:21 <FranciscoD> OCNS couldn't afford to have another free conf, so there's a much reduced registration fees 13:44:44 <FranciscoD> #info NeuroFedora show case at CNS*2021 on July 3: https://www.cnsorg.org/cns-2021-tutorials#S3 13:46:04 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: should we skip the next one maybe, to keep our 2 week schedule? 13:46:11 <FranciscoD> have it on Mon 19 July? 13:46:22 <MeWjOr> which NeuroFedora mailing list should we include in the review swap mail? 13:46:40 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: I'd send it to -devel in general, and cc neuro-sig@lists if you wish 13:46:48 <MeWjOr> Sure, no problems... Let's have it on 19th July 13:46:50 <FranciscoD> the latter is the list that neuro-sig maintainers are expected to be on 13:46:54 <FranciscoD> OK, cool 13:47:23 <MeWjOr> neuro-sig@lists.fp.o? 13:47:28 <FranciscoD> #info Next meeting will be in 4 weeks on July 19 on account of CNS*2021 13:47:44 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: yeh, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/neuro-sig.lists.fedoraproject.org/ 13:47:57 <MeWjOr> great. Thanks! 13:48:04 <FranciscoD> it's where all bugzilla notifications go, it isn't used for discussion at all. 13:48:21 <FranciscoD> MeWjOr: will you make the next meeting on 19th? Would you chair? 13:48:36 <MeWjOr> Sure, can do 13:48:41 <FranciscoD> awesome, thanks :) 13:48:49 <FranciscoD> #action MeWjOr chair next meeting on 19th July 13:49:03 <FranciscoD> I think that's the agenda, we have ~10 minutes for open floor 13:49:06 <FranciscoD> #topic Open floor 13:49:19 <FranciscoD> Anything that wasn't on the agenda can be discussed here 13:49:37 <FranciscoD> principis: what did you think of the meeting? Any queries etc. we can clarify for you? :) 13:50:29 <principis> FranciscoD: It was very clear, thank you :) 13:50:51 <FranciscoD> great, I'm glad :) 13:51:09 <FranciscoD> if there is nothing to discuss in open floor, I'll close the meeting in 2 minutes 13:51:14 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD send out logs 13:51:43 <MeWjOr> :D 13:52:19 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD reply to twitter announcement with link to logs 13:52:26 <FranciscoD> let's close then :) 13:52:30 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting