13:00:18 <FranciscoD_> #startmeeting NeuroFedora - 2023-01-30
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13:00:27 <FranciscoD_> #meetingname neurofedora
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13:01:18 <FranciscoD_> #chair music Penguinpee
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13:01:26 <FranciscoD_> #topic Agenda
13:01:46 <FranciscoD_> #info Agenda is here in the announcement post: https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2023/01/30/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-30-january-1300-utc.html
13:02:03 <FranciscoD_> #topic Introductions and roll call
13:02:12 <FranciscoD_> I'll wait here for ~5 minutes for folks to join in
13:02:25 <FranciscoD_> @room ^
13:02:26 <FranciscoD_> .members neuro-sig
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13:02:42 <FranciscoD_> .members neuro-sig
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13:03:50 <Penguinpee> .hello gui1ty
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13:04:35 <FranciscoD_> zodbot doesn't seem well today :/
13:04:49 <FranciscoD_> hello Penguinpee o/
13:06:05 <Penguinpee> It probably needs a kick, but admins are still asleep, I'm afraid.
13:08:24 <FranciscoD_> yeh, doesn't matter, as long as it logs the meeting
13:08:29 <FranciscoD_> lets proceed anyway
13:08:32 <FranciscoD_> #topic Tasks from last meeting
13:08:53 <FranciscoD_> #info Last meeting logs are here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2023-01-16/neurofedora.2023-01-16-13.00.html
13:09:12 <FranciscoD_> There was only the one task about a package review, which is now complete
13:09:15 <FranciscoD_> #info All tasks complete
13:09:43 <FranciscoD_> #topic Open pagure tickets
13:10:20 <FranciscoD_> #info Tickets marked as next-meeting: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
13:10:23 <FranciscoD_> #info No tickets to discuss
13:10:37 <FranciscoD_> #topic Package health check
13:10:47 <FranciscoD_> #info neuro-sig packages dashboard: https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig
13:11:25 <FranciscoD_> #info we prioritise FTBFS/FTI bugs, and then other bugs, then package updates etc.
13:11:58 <Penguinpee> Gosh, one of mine is in there and I haven't seen any notification or bug report, yet.
13:12:24 <FranciscoD_> an FTBFS? Which one?
13:12:35 <Penguinpee> python-mizani
13:13:27 <FranciscoD_> I don't see a bug for it---is koschei just marking it as FTBFS? It doesn't send notifications for that
13:13:28 <Penguinpee> Fall out from the mass rebuild?
13:14:11 <Penguinpee> Yeah, Koschei reports it as FTBFS.
13:14:25 <FranciscoD_> yeh, notifications are only sent once a bug has been filed
13:14:54 <FranciscoD_> for this package, it's for F37/F36 too, so not so important---because it was already built and unless there's an update, it's unlikely it'll be built again
13:15:35 <Penguinpee> I see. I think I looked at the list after the mass rebuild and it wasn't on there. Will need to investigate anyway.
13:15:55 <FranciscoD_> it isn't marked for rawhide, so should be fine
13:16:11 <FranciscoD_> I think tickets from the mass rebuild fall out have been filed now, so if we didn't get any notifications, it's all good
13:16:12 <FranciscoD_> :D
13:16:32 <FranciscoD_> there's also gcc13 in rawhide now, and that's caused a few issues
13:16:41 <Penguinpee> True. Anyway, I'll take a look when I find the time.
13:16:41 <FranciscoD_> #info GCC 13 in rawhide may cause some packages to fail
13:16:59 <FranciscoD_> +1
13:17:10 <FranciscoD_> #info GCC 13 changes are here: https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-13/porting_to.html
13:17:13 <Penguinpee> GCC in rawhide wouldn't cause the package to FTBFS in F36/37, though.
13:17:28 <FranciscoD_> No, it wouldn't---that's usually indicates some dep changes
13:18:01 <FranciscoD_> maybe a dep was updated etc., and that either breaks the dep chain or makes some tests fail
13:18:02 <FranciscoD_> that sort of thing
13:18:35 <FranciscoD_> but, the package version that was built (and is the one reaching users) should continue to work---if it doesn't install any more, the automated FTI checker will file a bug
13:18:42 <Penguinpee> Yeah. Will need to take a closer look. But flexiblas may be a candidate...
13:21:04 <FranciscoD_> Not a lot of FTBFS bugs there then, we seem to have quite a few updates
13:22:27 <FranciscoD_> #info Please open PRs to update all packages---quite a few "new version is available" bugs around
13:22:27 <Penguinpee> Didn't find the time to look at updates, but I reviewd one of yours. ;)
13:23:14 <Penguinpee> .members neuro-sig
13:23:15 <zodbot> Penguinpee: Members of neuro-sig: sagitter, ignatenkobrain, bt0dotninja, zbyszek, sergiopr, blackfile, ankursinha, lbazan, ilgrad, gicmo, alciregi, bizdelnick, nerdsville, mhough, victortyau, music, major, fangq, anilbey, iztokf, aekoroglu, gui1ty, shaneallcroft, hardeborlaa, mairacanal, vanessakris
13:23:32 <FranciscoD_> yeh, me neither---working on gdcm now, only fails to build on i686 🤨
13:23:32 <FranciscoD_> thanks for the review :)
13:23:43 <FranciscoD_> oo, zodbot woke up!
13:23:56 <FranciscoD_> #topic Open package reviews check
13:24:00 <Penguinpee> I had someone kick it.
13:24:08 <FranciscoD_> #info Please see our review tracker here:  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
13:24:12 <FranciscoD_> oo, awesome, thanks
13:25:39 <FranciscoD_> #info two review tickets, both python type stub packages (one waiting on me for update).
13:26:15 <FranciscoD_> #info music noted that if these are only required for linting during tests, the tests should be patched to not require them---this is also noted in the python packaging guidelines
13:26:34 <FranciscoD_> so I need to check where they are used, and if they are only used for linting, we don't continue with the reviews
13:26:54 <FranciscoD_> #action FranciscoD_ check if typing stub packages are required by packages for anything other than linting
13:28:11 <FranciscoD_> #topic Comp neuro image compose check
13:28:24 <FranciscoD_> #info https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
13:28:27 <FranciscoD_> #info Rawhide comp-neuro compose is chugging along nicely
13:28:51 <music[m]> (Hello.)
13:29:31 <FranciscoD_> o/
13:30:03 <FranciscoD_> since you're here---did we get an update from glymur upstream w.r.t https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-glymur/pull-request/10 ?
13:30:35 <FranciscoD_> Hrm, no, I see the issue here, but no response: https://github.com/quintusdias/glymur/issues/604
13:32:29 <music[m]> Yeah, I had forgotten about that. They’ve been fairly responsive in the past, I helped them learn to use qemu-user-static emulation, and I think I saw someone offered them access to real hardware, so I guess they’ve just been busy.
13:32:52 <Penguinpee> Talking about upstream, I need to inquire about rdflib upstream for python-odml.
13:33:10 <Penguinpee> .bug 2113639
13:33:12 <zodbot> Penguinpee: 2113639 – python-odml: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f37 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2113639
13:34:10 <FranciscoD_> music: yeh, also holiday period and all that. Maybe we can nudge them in a few weeks and see how it goes
13:34:55 <FranciscoD_> Penguinpee: I thought you had spoken to them already, but I can't remember what they'd said 🤔
13:35:08 <FranciscoD_> https://github.com/G-Node/python-odml/blob/v1.5.2/CHANGELOG.md#pinning-rdflib-version-to-500-until-further-notice
13:35:25 <FranciscoD_> Ah, this? https://github.com/G-Node/python-odml/issues/417
13:35:46 <Penguinpee> I did. But there hasn't been any progress since. Thought I might inquire about the state of affairs.
13:35:59 <FranciscoD_> yeh, worth a nudge
13:36:21 * Penguinpee is getting his elbows greased
13:36:25 <FranciscoD_> #action music nudge glymur upstream about s390x failures some time
13:36:37 <FranciscoD_> #action Penguinpee nudge odml upstream about rdflib dep progress some time
13:37:07 <FranciscoD_> #topic Neuro/science query of the week
13:38:15 <FranciscoD_> we're doing this next week if folks want to see what it's all about: https://ocns.github.io/SoftwareWG/2023/01/27/dev-session-michalis-pagkalos-dendrify.html
13:39:34 <FranciscoD_> I don't see anything generally interesting on the planet#
13:40:43 <FranciscoD_> Terminator anyone? https://www.sciencenews.org/article/robot-shape-shifting-gallium-melt-reform-magnetic-fields
13:41:17 <Penguinpee> That's more Odo from DS9
13:41:38 <FranciscoD_> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/procrastination-harm-fix-resolution
13:42:00 <Penguinpee> Well, maybe it comes down to who screened it first. Dunno.
13:42:47 <Penguinpee> Can I enroll my son for any experiments on the procrastination? :P
13:42:53 <FranciscoD_> LOL
13:43:07 <FranciscoD_> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/earth-inner-core-reverse-rotation
13:43:30 <music[m]> Maybe sometime. 😛
13:44:10 <music[m]> You can always enroll him next year.
13:44:24 <music[m]> Or later!
13:44:32 <Penguinpee> Tomorrow Never Dies!
13:44:37 <FranciscoD_> 😆
13:44:50 <FranciscoD_> that's all there is on the planet at the mo
13:45:12 <FranciscoD_> #topic next meeting: day, time, chair
13:45:25 <FranciscoD_> same time, 2 weeks?
13:45:32 <FranciscoD_> i.e., 13 Feb 1300 UTC
13:45:45 <Penguinpee> Fine with me.
13:47:12 <FranciscoD_> #info Next meeting on Feb 13 at 1300 UTC (same time in 2 weeks)
13:47:14 <FranciscoD_> #topic Open floor
13:47:21 <FranciscoD_> Anything else folks?
13:48:19 <Penguinpee> I'll be attending FOSDEM coming weekend for the first time. Looking forward to meeting some fellow Fedorians and other FOSS folk in Brussels.
13:48:25 <FranciscoD_> Oo, jupyterlab is under review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2161525
13:48:55 <FranciscoD_> That'll be nice! I wish I could've come. Silly visas!
13:49:00 <FranciscoD_> maybe next year
13:49:33 <Penguinpee> Procrastination?
13:49:39 <Penguinpee> Mañana, mañana...
13:49:55 <Penguinpee> yk
13:49:55 <FranciscoD_> nah, visa queue in london for schengen visas is ~80 days
13:49:55 <FranciscoD_> or was, when I checked in nov
13:50:27 <Penguinpee> Wow, that takes some planning ahead. Better apply for next year's visa now.
13:50:27 <FranciscoD_> I've got a work conf in july, so that's my focus. Gotta get all my tix etc. and get a visa appointment for may/june hopefully
13:50:46 <FranciscoD_> yeh, exactly---gotta plan all trips for the next year almost and then apply for a multiple entry visa
13:51:17 <FranciscoD_> but then, my work visa expires in november and that'll need renewing, so more faffing about there
13:51:18 <FranciscoD_> :D
13:52:49 <FranciscoD_> Anyway, let's close the meeting and get back to other things
13:52:52 <FranciscoD_> thanks for coming folks
13:52:56 <FranciscoD_> I'll go send the logs out
13:52:58 <FranciscoD_> #endmeeting