#fedora-qa: f18-beta-blocker-review-2

Meeting started by tflink at 16:00:56 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:00)
  2. Introduction (tflink, 16:11:33)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:11:40)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:11:48)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:11:49)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:11:56)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:11:56)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:12:02)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:02)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:02)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:03)
    10. 39 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:12:21)
    11. 7 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:12:22)
    12. 5 Proposed NTH (tflink, 16:12:22)
    13. 4 Accepted NTH (tflink, 16:12:22)

  3. (847831) kickstart boot fails (tflink, 16:14:37)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847831 (tflink, 16:14:37)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:14:37)
    3. ACTION: tflink to investigate 847831 and poke anaconda devs if needed (tflink, 16:18:01)
    4. AGREED: 847831 - We're still waiting for data on what exactly is broken here - will revisit once that data is available (tflink, 16:20:12)

  4. (841451) polkitd doesn't start in F18/rawhide upgraded from F17 using yum due to failure to create polkitd user/group (tflink, 16:20:19)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841451 (tflink, 16:20:23)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:20:25)
    3. AGREED: (841451) - There has been no objection to closing this as a dupe of 844167 - close as a dupe (tflink, 16:29:30)

  5. (847472) DM configuration migration on upgrade not working (tflink, 16:29:36)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847472 (tflink, 16:29:37)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 16:29:37)
    3. AGREED: 847472 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion: "It must be possible to successfully complete an upgrade from a fully updated installation of the previous stable Fedora release with the 'minimal' package set or the package set for a release-blocking desktop, using any officially recommended upgrade mechanism. The upgraded system must meet all release criteria." (tflink, 16:37:23)

  6. (855976) In F18 Alpha, 'automatic' partitioning simply wipes your entire disk without warning you first (tflink, 16:37:45)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855976 (tflink, 16:37:48)
    2. Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:37:50)
    3. AGREED: 855976 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using automatic partitioning to a validly-formatted disk with sufficient empty space, using the empty space and installing a bootloader but leaving the pre-existing partitions and data untouched" (tflink, 16:46:52)

  7. (835648) kernel freeze after [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 on T520 with Quadro NVS 4200M (tflink, 16:47:28)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=835648 (tflink, 16:47:31)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:47:34)
    3. AGREED: 835648 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - While serious, it affects a minority of hardware configurations and appears easy to workaround. Rejected as blocker for F18 beta, please re-propose if it turns out that the workaround doesn't work or more HW is affected than our current understanding (tflink, 16:57:04)

  8. (856938) Native UEFI install from F18 Alpha RC3 DVD written to USB with livecd-iso-to-disk fails to boot (tflink, 16:58:27)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856938 (tflink, 16:58:30)
    2. Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 16:58:33)
    3. this bug is fixed but update is not yet in stable - doesn't need any review - skipping (tflink, 17:00:50)

  9. (859632) Cannot edit boot entries (tflink, 17:01:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632 (tflink, 17:01:02)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:01:02)
    3. AGREED: 859632 - More data on the cause of this bug is needed before we make a decision on blocker status (tflink, 17:24:59)

  10. (856362) KeyError: 'la-latin1' (tflink, 17:25:07)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856362 (tflink, 17:25:07)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:25:07)
    3. AGREED: 856362 - This was filed against preupgrade - we need to see if the new tool is affected before deciding on blocker status (tflink, 17:28:29)

  11. (859224) Please take systemd-logind's handle-power-key/handle-suspend-key/handle-hibernate-key/handle-lid-switch inhibitor locks if GNOME wants to handle the respective keys on its own (tflink, 17:31:15)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859224 (tflink, 17:31:19)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:31:22)
    3. AGREED: 859224 - RejectedBlocker - Since this appears to only affect suspend, it doesn't affect any of the F18 beta release criteria and thus is not a blocker for F18 beta. If this is still a significant issue during freeze, please re-propose as NTH (tflink, 17:38:52)

  12. (862221) repo.getPackage(po) fails with yum-3.4.3-44 but works using git master (tflink, 17:39:09)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862221 (tflink, 17:39:12)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:39:14)
    3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OfflineSystemUpdates (Viking-Ice, 17:41:02)
    4. AGREED: 862221 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - This does not violate any F18 beta release criteria and thus does not qualify for blocker status. This does affect a F18 feature but that doesn't qualify for NTH by itself, either (tflink, 17:43:07)

  13. (860791) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0' (tflink, 17:43:16)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860791 (tflink, 17:43:19)
    2. Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 17:43:22)
    3. AGREED: 860791 - This bug is really vague and we need more information before making a decision on blocker status (tflink, 17:52:31)

  14. (860276) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 10: ordinal not in range(128) (tflink, 17:52:48)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860276 (tflink, 17:52:51)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:52:53)
    3. AGREED: 860276 - This appears to be a symptom of 858591, mark as a duplicate (tflink, 17:59:35)

  15. (860430) RFE: dual boot support in newui (tflink, 17:59:44)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860430 (tflink, 17:59:44)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:59:45)
    3. AGREED: 860430 - This may be a blocker but as currently written, does not violate any criteria. Will re-visit at a later meeting once it has been clarified (tflink, 18:09:35)

  16. (859485) « Copy settings » to system in G-C-C's « Region & Language » panel causes weird keyboard behavior (tflink, 18:09:48)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859485 (tflink, 18:09:51)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:09:53)
    3. AGREED: 859485 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the F18 beta release criteria and thus is rejected as a blocker. (tflink, 18:13:23)

  17. (859614) [abrt] systemd-analyze-191-2.fc18: connection.py:651:call_blocking:DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Resource temporarily unavailable (tflink, 18:13:40)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859614 (tflink, 18:13:43)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:13:46)
    3. ACTION: adamw to re-test the tty bug with the new systemd build when lennart submits it (adamw, 18:23:17)
    4. AGREED: 859614 - Since this bug isn't against the stable version of systemd, it doesn't qualify as a blocker for F18 beta. De-propose as a blocker for F18 beta, if 190+ is pushed stable before freeze, re-propose as blocker (tflink, 18:26:09)

  18. (862612) anaconda freezes after clicking on "+" in keyboard layout settings (tflink, 18:26:23)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862612 (tflink, 18:26:26)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:26:28)
    3. AGREED: 862612 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the following F18 alpha release criterion for non-US keyboards: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using the text, graphical and VNC installation interfaces" (tflink, 18:33:07)

  19. (862613) ValueError: cannot initialize a disk that has partitions (tflink, 18:33:21)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862613 (tflink, 18:33:21)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:33:21)
    3. AGREED: 862613 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using automatic partitioning to a validly-formatted disk with sufficient empty space, using the empty space and installing a bootloader but leaving the pre-existing partitions and data untouched" (tflink, 18:36:14)

  20. (851114) RepoError: SQLite objects created in a thread can only be used in that same thread (tflink, 18:36:22)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851114 (tflink, 18:36:25)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:36:28)
    3. AGREED: 851114 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the following F18 alpha release criterion (it is a timing bug that is very easy to hit): "The installer must be able to install each of the release blocking desktops, as well as the minimal package set, with each supported installation method" (tflink, 18:38:55)

  21. (862557) repoclosure failure on 18 Beta TC1 DVDs (kernel) (tflink, 18:39:07)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862557 (tflink, 18:39:07)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:39:07)
    3. AGREED: 862557 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "There must be no file conflicts (cases where the files in some packages conflict but the packages have explicit Conflicts: tags are acceptable) or unresolved package dependencies during a media-based (DVD) install" (tflink, 18:46:50)

  22. (862784) error: rpmdb open failed (tflink, 18:46:55)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862784 (tflink, 18:46:57)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:47:00)
    3. ACTION: adamw to discipline himself for bad drafting (adamw, 18:57:47)
    4. AGREED: 862784 - As currently written, this does violate the F18 beta release requirements but this is an unintended consequence of recent re-wording. Will re-visit next meeting once there has been a chance for criteria revision (tflink, 18:58:33)

  23. (862006) NameError: global name 'size_func_kwargs' is not defined (tflink, 18:58:38)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862006 (tflink, 18:58:38)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:58:39)
    3. AGREED: 862006 - AcceptedBlocker (final) - It's still unclear whether or not this qualifies as a beta blocker for F18 but is a clear final blocker - will re-visit beta blocker status once we have more clarity on the status of LVM as a common partition type (tflink, 19:14:54)

  24. (862801) Anaconda hangs when 'Configuring installed system' (tflink, 19:15:45)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862801 (tflink, 19:15:46)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:15:46)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862801#c8 (satellit, 19:19:29)
    4. AGREED: 862801 - We need more information on what exactly is causing this and whether it is hardware specific before making a decision on blocker status (tflink, 19:21:42)

  25. (790365) Can't resume from suspend to RAM: Black screen and laptop frozen (tflink, 19:21:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790365 (tflink, 19:21:59)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:22:02)

  26. (847818) Radeon RS690M/X1200 screen corruption beyond kernel-3.4.6-2.fc17.i686 (tflink, 19:27:23)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847818 (tflink, 19:27:26)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:27:29)
    3. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (Martix, 19:28:32)
    4. AGREED: 847818 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This appears to only affect a single adapter which isn't enough to justify blocker status for F18 beta. However, it is enough to justify NTH - a well tested fix would be accepted past freeze (tflink, 19:39:55)
    5. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862591 nice to have? (satellit, 19:39:57)

  27. Next Meeting (tflink, 19:40:21)
    1. Blocker review will continue 2012-10-04 @ 16:00 UTC (tflink, 19:42:10)

  28. Open Floor (tflink, 19:42:15)


Meeting ended at 19:44:33 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. tflink to investigate 847831 and poke anaconda devs if needed
  2. adamw to re-test the tty bug with the new systemd build when lennart submits it
  3. adamw to discipline himself for bad drafting


Action items, by person

  1. adamw
    1. adamw to re-test the tty bug with the new systemd build when lennart submits it
    2. adamw to discipline himself for bad drafting
  2. tflink
    1. tflink to investigate 847831 and poke anaconda devs if needed


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  4. kparal (131)
  5. Martix (48)
  6. akshayvyas (28)
  7. zodbot (21)
  8. poettering (11)
  9. satellit (8)
  10. drago01 (7)
  11. Martix1 (3)
  12. garretraziel (3)
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