===================================== #fedora-qa: f18-beta-blocker-review-2 ===================================== Meeting started by tflink at 16:00:56 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-10-03/f18-beta-blocker-review-2.2012-10-03-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:00) * Introduction (tflink, 16:11:33) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:11:40) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:11:48) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:11:49) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:11:56) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:11:56) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:12:02) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:02) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:02) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:03) * 39 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:12:21) * 7 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:12:22) * 5 Proposed NTH (tflink, 16:12:22) * 4 Accepted NTH (tflink, 16:12:22) * (847831) kickstart boot fails (tflink, 16:14:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847831 (tflink, 16:14:37) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:14:37) * ACTION: tflink to investigate 847831 and poke anaconda devs if needed (tflink, 16:18:01) * AGREED: 847831 - We're still waiting for data on what exactly is broken here - will revisit once that data is available (tflink, 16:20:12) * (841451) polkitd doesn't start in F18/rawhide upgraded from F17 using yum due to failure to create polkitd user/group (tflink, 16:20:19) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841451 (tflink, 16:20:23) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:20:25) * AGREED: (841451) - There has been no objection to closing this as a dupe of 844167 - close as a dupe (tflink, 16:29:30) * (847472) DM configuration migration on upgrade not working (tflink, 16:29:36) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847472 (tflink, 16:29:37) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 16:29:37) * AGREED: 847472 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion: "It must be possible to successfully complete an upgrade from a fully updated installation of the previous stable Fedora release with the 'minimal' package set or the package set for a release-blocking desktop, using any officially recommended upgrade mechanism. The upgraded system must meet all release criteria." (tflink, 16:37:23) * (855976) In F18 Alpha, 'automatic' partitioning simply wipes your entire disk without warning you first (tflink, 16:37:45) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855976 (tflink, 16:37:48) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:37:50) * AGREED: 855976 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using automatic partitioning to a validly-formatted disk with sufficient empty space, using the empty space and installing a bootloader but leaving the pre-existing partitions and data untouched" (tflink, 16:46:52) * (835648) kernel freeze after [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 on T520 with Quadro NVS 4200M (tflink, 16:47:28) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=835648 (tflink, 16:47:31) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 16:47:34) * AGREED: 835648 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - While serious, it affects a minority of hardware configurations and appears easy to workaround. Rejected as blocker for F18 beta, please re-propose if it turns out that the workaround doesn't work or more HW is affected than our current understanding (tflink, 16:57:04) * (856938) Native UEFI install from F18 Alpha RC3 DVD written to USB with livecd-iso-to-disk fails to boot (tflink, 16:58:27) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856938 (tflink, 16:58:30) * Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 16:58:33) * this bug is fixed but update is not yet in stable - doesn't need any review - skipping (tflink, 17:00:50) * (859632) Cannot edit boot entries (tflink, 17:01:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859632 (tflink, 17:01:02) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:01:02) * AGREED: 859632 - More data on the cause of this bug is needed before we make a decision on blocker status (tflink, 17:24:59) * (856362) KeyError: 'la-latin1' (tflink, 17:25:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856362 (tflink, 17:25:07) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:25:07) * AGREED: 856362 - This was filed against preupgrade - we need to see if the new tool is affected before deciding on blocker status (tflink, 17:28:29) * (859224) Please take systemd-logind's handle-power-key/handle-suspend-key/handle-hibernate-key/handle-lid-switch inhibitor locks if GNOME wants to handle the respective keys on its own (tflink, 17:31:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859224 (tflink, 17:31:19) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:31:22) * AGREED: 859224 - RejectedBlocker - Since this appears to only affect suspend, it doesn't affect any of the F18 beta release criteria and thus is not a blocker for F18 beta. If this is still a significant issue during freeze, please re-propose as NTH (tflink, 17:38:52) * (862221) repo.getPackage(po) fails with yum-3.4.3-44 but works using git master (tflink, 17:39:09) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862221 (tflink, 17:39:12) * Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:39:14) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OfflineSystemUpdates (Viking-Ice, 17:41:02) * AGREED: 862221 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - This does not violate any F18 beta release criteria and thus does not qualify for blocker status. This does affect a F18 feature but that doesn't qualify for NTH by itself, either (tflink, 17:43:07) * (860791) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0' (tflink, 17:43:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860791 (tflink, 17:43:19) * Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 17:43:22) * AGREED: 860791 - This bug is really vague and we need more information before making a decision on blocker status (tflink, 17:52:31) * (860276) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 10: ordinal not in range(128) (tflink, 17:52:48) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860276 (tflink, 17:52:51) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:52:53) * AGREED: 860276 - This appears to be a symptom of 858591, mark as a duplicate (tflink, 17:59:35) * (860430) RFE: dual boot support in newui (tflink, 17:59:44) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860430 (tflink, 17:59:44) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:59:45) * AGREED: 860430 - This may be a blocker but as currently written, does not violate any criteria. Will re-visit at a later meeting once it has been clarified (tflink, 18:09:35) * (859485) « Copy settings » to system in G-C-C's « Region & Language » panel causes weird keyboard behavior (tflink, 18:09:48) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859485 (tflink, 18:09:51) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:09:53) * AGREED: 859485 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't hit any of the F18 beta release criteria and thus is rejected as a blocker. (tflink, 18:13:23) * (859614) [abrt] systemd-analyze-191-2.fc18: connection.py:651:call_blocking:DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Resource temporarily unavailable (tflink, 18:13:40) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859614 (tflink, 18:13:43) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:13:46) * ACTION: adamw to re-test the tty bug with the new systemd build when lennart submits it (adamw, 18:23:17) * AGREED: 859614 - Since this bug isn't against the stable version of systemd, it doesn't qualify as a blocker for F18 beta. De-propose as a blocker for F18 beta, if 190+ is pushed stable before freeze, re-propose as blocker (tflink, 18:26:09) * (862612) anaconda freezes after clicking on "+" in keyboard layout settings (tflink, 18:26:23) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862612 (tflink, 18:26:26) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:26:28) * AGREED: 862612 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the following F18 alpha release criterion for non-US keyboards: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using the text, graphical and VNC installation interfaces" (tflink, 18:33:07) * (862613) ValueError: cannot initialize a disk that has partitions (tflink, 18:33:21) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862613 (tflink, 18:33:21) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:33:21) * AGREED: 862613 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using automatic partitioning to a validly-formatted disk with sufficient empty space, using the empty space and installing a bootloader but leaving the pre-existing partitions and data untouched" (tflink, 18:36:14) * (851114) RepoError: SQLite objects created in a thread can only be used in that same thread (tflink, 18:36:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=851114 (tflink, 18:36:25) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:36:28) * AGREED: 851114 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the following F18 alpha release criterion (it is a timing bug that is very easy to hit): "The installer must be able to install each of the release blocking desktops, as well as the minimal package set, with each supported installation method" (tflink, 18:38:55) * (862557) repoclosure failure on 18 Beta TC1 DVDs (kernel) (tflink, 18:39:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862557 (tflink, 18:39:07) * Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:39:07) * AGREED: 862557 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "There must be no file conflicts (cases where the files in some packages conflict but the packages have explicit Conflicts: tags are acceptable) or unresolved package dependencies during a media-based (DVD) install" (tflink, 18:46:50) * (862784) error: rpmdb open failed (tflink, 18:46:55) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862784 (tflink, 18:46:57) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:47:00) * ACTION: adamw to discipline himself for bad drafting (adamw, 18:57:47) * AGREED: 862784 - As currently written, this does violate the F18 beta release requirements but this is an unintended consequence of recent re-wording. Will re-visit next meeting once there has been a chance for criteria revision (tflink, 18:58:33) * (862006) NameError: global name 'size_func_kwargs' is not defined (tflink, 18:58:38) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862006 (tflink, 18:58:38) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:58:39) * AGREED: 862006 - AcceptedBlocker (final) - It's still unclear whether or not this qualifies as a beta blocker for F18 but is a clear final blocker - will re-visit beta blocker status once we have more clarity on the status of LVM as a common partition type (tflink, 19:14:54) * (862801) Anaconda hangs when 'Configuring installed system' (tflink, 19:15:45) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862801 (tflink, 19:15:46) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:15:46) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862801#c8 (satellit, 19:19:29) * AGREED: 862801 - We need more information on what exactly is causing this and whether it is hardware specific before making a decision on blocker status (tflink, 19:21:42) * (790365) Can't resume from suspend to RAM: Black screen and laptop frozen (tflink, 19:21:56) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790365 (tflink, 19:21:59) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:22:02) * (847818) Radeon RS690M/X1200 screen corruption beyond kernel-3.4.6-2.fc17.i686 (tflink, 19:27:23) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847818 (tflink, 19:27:26) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:27:29) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (Martix, 19:28:32) * AGREED: 847818 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This appears to only affect a single adapter which isn't enough to justify blocker status for F18 beta. However, it is enough to justify NTH - a well tested fix would be accepted past freeze (tflink, 19:39:55) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862591 nice to have? (satellit, 19:39:57) * Next Meeting (tflink, 19:40:21) * Blocker review will continue 2012-10-04 @ 16:00 UTC (tflink, 19:42:10) * Open Floor (tflink, 19:42:15) Meeting ended at 19:44:33 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tflink to investigate 847831 and poke anaconda devs if needed * adamw to re-test the tty bug with the new systemd build when lennart submits it * adamw to discipline himself for bad drafting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to re-test the tty bug with the new systemd build when lennart submits it * adamw to discipline himself for bad drafting * tflink * tflink to investigate 847831 and poke anaconda devs if needed * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (352) * adamw (324) * Viking-Ice (165) * kparal (131) * Martix (48) * akshayvyas (28) * zodbot (21) * poettering (11) * satellit (8) * drago01 (7) * Martix1 (3) * garretraziel (3) * nanonyme (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot