17:01:07 <onekopaka> #startmeeting Websites Meeting for 8-14-2009
17:01:21 <onekopaka> #topic Who's here?
17:01:59 * onekopaka 
17:02:19 <onekopaka> ricky: ping
17:02:24 <FergatROn> i'm here
17:02:34 <onekopaka> FergatROn: oh good.
17:02:46 <onekopaka> nb__: ping
17:02:51 * nb 
17:02:52 <FergatROn> i thought the meeting would be in #fedora-meeting?
17:02:57 <nb> kind of here at least
17:03:01 <onekopaka> FergatROn: FESco gets that
17:03:12 <nb> no ricky here?
17:03:24 <onekopaka> nb: apparently not.
17:03:47 <FergatROn> so if ricky isn't here... do we have an agenda?
17:03:58 <onekopaka> #topic get.fpo
17:04:11 <onekopaka> FergatROn: I guess.
17:04:16 <onekopaka> mizmo: ping
17:04:40 <FergatROn> I'm just curious onekopaka - is there an agenda? I mean posted for all to see? :D
17:04:54 <onekopaka> FergatROn: posted, no. In my head, yes.
17:04:59 <FergatROn> hahah
17:05:12 <onekopaka> FergatROn: it's a relavent one though
17:05:30 <onekopaka> FergatROn: but mizmo isn't here. which ruins it..
17:06:08 <onekopaka> mizmo: and.. we're moving on.
17:06:14 <FergatROn> well, we at least know their IRC clients are logged in.
17:06:50 <onekopaka> #topic F12 tasks recap
17:07:14 <onekopaka> well
17:07:31 <mizmo> hi im here
17:07:38 <onekopaka> mizmo: oh good.
17:07:38 <FergatROn> hey mizmo
17:07:42 <mizmo> yo
17:07:53 <onekopaka> mizmo: lemme quickly finish this topic
17:08:19 <onekopaka> Infra is frozen, I know that much
17:08:27 <nb> well not all of it
17:08:41 <nb> we can still change valueadd and i think proxy is unfrozen too ricky said
17:08:55 <onekopaka> nb: noted.
17:09:18 <onekopaka> #info valueadd servers and proxys are unfrozen in the Infra freeze
17:09:38 <nb> theres a graphic somewhere that says what is unfrozen
17:09:50 <onekopaka> nb: could you dig it up?
17:10:03 <nb> i will try
17:10:15 <onekopaka> mizmo: does your team have a banner for the alpha?
17:11:08 <nb> #link http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-infrastructure.git?p=fedora-infrastructure.git;a=blob_plain;f=architecture/Environments.odg;hb=HEAD
17:11:32 <onekopaka> I see this from Paolo Leoni: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/46/Deepsky-fedora12alpha-banner1.png
17:11:49 <mizmo> onekopaka: we have a draft
17:11:55 <mizmo> onekopaka: i believe we picked a different design
17:12:17 <onekopaka> mizmo: would you happen to have a link for it?
17:12:39 <mizmo> onekopaka: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/banner.png
17:13:04 <nb> i like it
17:13:11 <nb> isnt the name Constantine?
17:13:15 <mizmo> yes
17:13:17 <onekopaka> looks nice
17:13:17 <nb> so i gather that is why the roman design
17:13:21 <mizmo> yeppers
17:13:22 <mizmo> :)
17:13:26 * FergatROn doesn't like it... but he hasn't been around long either!
17:13:50 * hiemanshu is sorry for being late
17:13:50 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: hi, you here for websites?
17:13:54 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: yup
17:14:13 <onekopaka> mizmo: so I'm gonna #Link that draft
17:14:19 <onekopaka> #link http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/banner.png
17:14:19 <mizmo> sure
17:14:44 <onekopaka> so I think we are good with Fedora 12 schedule.
17:14:56 <hiemanshu> anyone got a backlog?
17:15:34 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: not much has happened, we talked about the Infra freeze and which parts are / are not frozen
17:15:54 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: ah ok
17:15:54 <onekopaka> we're gonna move back to mizmo for get.fpo
17:15:57 <hiemanshu> no ricky today?
17:16:04 <hiemanshu> hey mizmo
17:16:07 <onekopaka> #topic get.fpo (for real)
17:16:09 <mizmo> hi
17:16:21 <nb> when are we supposed to branch the website?
17:16:52 <tmz> nb: I was talking with ricky about that yesterday.  I was going to a push an f11 branch.
17:17:00 <nb> tmz, oh ok
17:17:03 <tmz> that was just before the reboots, so I held off.
17:17:39 <onekopaka> mizmo: I think you better try to get in your part
17:17:42 <tmz> nb: I also want to check with ricky to ensure any syncing scripts will do the right thing before I push that. :)
17:18:05 <nb> tmz, i think we'll need to change syncStatic.sh
17:18:08 * nb can do that if you want
17:18:13 <mizmo> onekopaka: what do you mean?
17:18:35 <onekopaka> mizmo: what's your status on get.fpo
17:18:52 <mizmo> onekopaka: i have mockups
17:18:58 <mizmo> i posted them to planet this past week
17:19:04 <mizmo> i worked on them with stickster
17:19:16 <mizmo> they're 3rd draft at this point but still need tweaks
17:19:18 <onekopaka> mizmo: and it's prolly scrolled off planet ;-)
17:19:45 <mizmo> front page of www.fpo http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/page1.png
17:19:55 <mizmo> get.fpo front page http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/page2.png
17:20:04 <mizmo> do not yet have the more options mocked up (alternative arches etc)
17:20:13 <mizmo> download splash http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/page3.png
17:20:26 <onekopaka> #link http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/page1.png
17:20:28 <mizmo> spins.fpo first page http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/spins-directory.6.png
17:21:15 <hiemanshu> mizmo: i think we were looking for making x64 more visible and most people dont like to read text to get there
17:21:19 <nb> tmz, yeah, it looks like syncStatic.sh is what clones fedora-web from git, builds it, and then makes it live on the proxies
17:21:36 <onekopaka> #link http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/page2.png
17:21:40 <onekopaka> #link http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/page3.png
17:21:58 <mizmo> hiemanshu: this is designed according to the requirements the board gave me
17:21:58 <onekopaka> #link http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/spins-directory.6.png
17:22:06 <mizmo> hiemanshu: the secondary arch screen will have x86_64
17:22:15 <hiemanshu> mizmo: yeah i read that part
17:22:28 <mizmo> im not driving the requirements
17:22:34 <hiemanshu> mizmo: but a better placed or atleast more obvious option would be better
17:22:42 <mizmo> again :)
17:22:44 <mizmo> not my choice
17:22:45 <nb> hiemanshu, you might tell that to the board
17:23:00 <mizmo> we have an 'other options' link right next to the huge download button
17:23:02 <nb> hiemanshu, she's not  the one deciding what it looks like, she's just the one implementing it
17:23:06 <hiemanshu> nb: i lost the thread about requirements
17:23:23 <mizmo> nb: well im doing the screen design / visual layout, but what is on the page and isn't is decided by the board
17:23:32 <nb> mizmo, yeah, thats what i meant
17:23:39 * hiemanshu nods
17:23:55 <mizmo> i think its a good idea though
17:23:57 <hiemanshu> mizmo: great work i have to say though /me loves it
17:23:58 <mizmo> to only have one download link
17:24:06 <mizmo> thanks :)
17:24:29 <onekopaka> #info mizmo doesn't decide what's on the page, the <s>evil</s> wonderful board does
17:24:54 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: stop behaving your age :P
17:25:12 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: noted.
17:25:31 <onekopaka> mizmo: I'm liking the mockups
17:25:46 <hiemanshu> mizmo: i do have a few notes on the mockups that i ll send to the list
17:25:53 <mizmo> hiemanshu: cool that would be great
17:26:03 <mizmo> got 80 comments on the blog post lol but always room for more
17:26:29 * hiemanshu wonders if fedora has a mascot
17:26:45 <FergatROn> hiemanshu: yes, its "me"! :)
17:26:54 <onekopaka> that panda seems to want to be the mascot.
17:27:07 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: yup exactly what i wanted to know
17:27:17 * hiemanshu should ask the board to decide on this
17:27:39 <hiemanshu> can i get any +1's on this?
17:27:41 <onekopaka> mizmo: are you proud of that panda?
17:28:03 * FergatROn thinks the panda looks great!
17:28:19 * onekopaka likes the panda too.
17:28:35 * hiemanshu likes it too but wants to let the board decide
17:28:41 <onekopaka> and mizmo did the panda totally in Inkscape
17:28:49 <mizmo> onekopaka: i ilke the panda but it needs a little more work
17:28:55 <FergatROn> mizmo: is there any symoblism with the panda or is it just a graphic element?
17:29:11 <mizmo> FergatROn: well i like the idea of a panda because they're black and white like tux is :)
17:29:13 <mizmo> FergatROn: they're cute
17:29:19 <hiemanshu> mizmo: was the panda your idea or the boards?
17:29:19 <mizmo> FergatROn: no other big distro has a bear for a mascot
17:29:30 <mizmo> hiemanshu: panda was my idea but the board members i've shown it to like it
17:29:41 <hiemanshu> mizmo: then that should work
17:29:45 <FergatROn> mizmo: so we'll see more big bears and peguins mixing it up on Fedora's site? :D
17:29:47 <mizmo> hiemanshu: the idea was inspired by getfirefox.com that has a lot of cute animals like dolphins, etc
17:29:54 <mizmo> FergatROn: well maybe not penguins, just pandas
17:30:13 <mizmo> FergatROn: we could do a penguin and a panda together at some point though if we want to point at upstream linux
17:30:26 <hiemanshu> mizmo: yeah seen that, a bigger panda could symbolize power
17:30:36 <mizmo> hiemanshu: kung fu panda :)
17:30:43 <hiemanshu> mizmo: sure :)
17:30:50 <mizmo> did you guys see nicu's post about the panda
17:30:59 <hiemanshu> mizmo: we need to symbolize something through the mascots
17:31:01 <FergatROn> hiemanshu: mizmo haha - there's certainly room for improvement. Has anyone thought of a mascot before?
17:31:07 <onekopaka> so are we agreeing that the panda is the new mascot?
17:31:16 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: unofficially yes
17:31:20 <mizmo> http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/08/great-panda-debate.html
17:31:31 <FergatROn> onekopaka: i think the board will make the final decision. It seems like most of us like it though.
17:31:33 <mizmo> FergatROn: yeh there was some work a long time ago but we couldn't decide what to use
17:31:45 <hiemanshu> #link http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/08/great-panda-debate.html
17:32:09 <mizmo> the panda doesn't have to be an official mascot either, just a cute character for the site. e.g, like i mentioned some of the firefox pages have dolphins and birds. but their mascot is the firefox
17:32:38 <nb> oops i forgot about this window
17:32:42 <onekopaka> #agreed the panda is the unofficial mascot and the board will decide on the panda's mascot credibility
17:33:12 <hiemanshu> #action Speak to the board and ask if they like the Panda to me the Fedora mascot
17:33:21 <hiemanshu> (Thats after the Panda agrees though)
17:33:30 <hiemanshu> s/me/be
17:33:42 <mizmo> hiemanshu: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2009berlin/889-img_1793.jpg.medium.jpeg  <= i talked to the panda over some drinks and he agrees
17:34:14 <hiemanshu> mizmo: so there we go, the Panda agrees as well
17:34:32 <mizmo> (with a little drink and bamboo he's quite agreeable ;-) )
17:34:32 <hiemanshu> so we need the Board to decide on it
17:34:33 <onekopaka> stickster: ping
17:35:04 <hiemanshu> mizmo: with a hug as well ;)
17:35:19 <onekopaka> http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2009berlin/652-img_1517.jpg.medium.jpeg seems to show a position by stickster on pandas.
17:36:30 * onekopaka thinks stickster isn't going to answer
17:36:45 * stickster on phone -- oops, sorry!
17:36:50 <stickster> heh
17:37:10 <onekopaka> stickster: oh, okay. sorry for interrupting your phone call
17:37:22 * stickster notes that he asked the Board to weigh in on mockups on FAB lsit
17:38:12 <onekopaka> stickster: so what's your opinion on the panda though?
17:38:47 <mizmo> ....spppsssshhh.... i think he's on the phone with the panda working out a contrcat
17:38:50 <mizmo> ;-)
17:39:08 <onekopaka> heh
17:39:53 <FergatROn> that panda's a big-time deal maker. stickster's gonna need all his wits about him!
17:40:18 <hiemanshu> stickster: tell him i can offer him a life time supply of drinks of his choice
17:40:25 <mizmo> hiemanshu: dont forget the bamboo
17:40:36 <hiemanshu> mizmo: common spend something atleast :P
17:40:46 <mizmo> so im wondering does anyone have time to start maybe working on some html for the mockups so far, or do we think it's too soon to do this?
17:41:15 <hiemanshu> mizmo: i could
17:41:18 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: do you wish to take this tasak?
17:41:20 <onekopaka> task*
17:41:24 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: yup
17:41:26 <hiemanshu> i could start
17:41:35 <mizmo> the design still may change a little, but, for the front page
17:41:41 <onekopaka> #action hiemanshu to work on full-blown html mockups.
17:41:41 <mizmo> i think it'll end up being the same rough layout
17:41:45 <mizmo> let me grab that mockup again
17:41:53 <mizmo> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/page1.png
17:42:07 <mizmo> the content might change slightly but the layout for that i think is pretty solid
17:42:09 <hiemanshu> mizmo: i have links
17:42:17 <mizmo> cool
17:42:35 <hiemanshu> mizmo: just send me the source files
17:42:44 <hiemanshu> irc nick @fp.o
17:42:45 <mizmo> hiemanshu: they are in the same directory
17:42:54 * stickster gets off phone
17:42:56 <mizmo> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/fedora-v4_12col.svg
17:43:03 <onekopaka> stickster: what did the panda say?
17:43:27 <stickster> OK, as far as the panda goes -- honestly, I think he's helpful in a directional way, as a stand-in or proxy for the web page user.
17:43:29 <stickster> But
17:43:43 <hiemanshu> mizmo: got it
17:44:05 <stickster> I think he also has the potential to annoy some of our contributor contingent who think that he's then automatically a mascot that has had no community input
17:44:39 <onekopaka> stickster: so the community at large should vote?
17:44:43 <stickster> When I look at the after-download page, though, I see a lot of text there. A character or graphic really breaks that up in a good way.
17:45:10 <stickster> I think we've been down the voting road before and it's not been terribly productive.
17:45:19 <onekopaka> hmm.
17:45:38 <stickster> I mean, if the overall vote is in favor of an ugly toad, does that mean we are saddled with an ugly toad?
17:45:46 <FergatROn> so give the community 3 version of a panda to vote on! onekopaka stickster :D
17:46:17 <stickster> I'm not terribly concerned about the panda per se. What I am concerned about is having a web site that makes it easy for people to find and download Fedora.
17:46:32 <onekopaka> sijis_afk has input on the export regulations disclaimer
17:46:44 <onekopaka> http://sijis.fedorapeople.org/disclaimer
17:46:53 <onekopaka> is his non-integrated mockup
17:46:58 <stickster> mizmo: ricky: Don't let me drag the meeting back to this if you're looking to go to another topic
17:47:23 <stickster> One last note -- I've asked the Board members to start weighing in on the FAB list about the design mockups
17:47:52 <mizmo> onekopaka: sijis's mockup looks like it'll match what the lawyers were looking for so that's great
17:47:58 <onekopaka> stickster: ricky isn't here, I'm the chair =)
17:48:07 <onekopaka> mizmo: cool
17:48:41 <onekopaka> #agreed http://sijis.fedorapeople.org/disclaimer looks like what the lawyers want
17:48:55 <stickster> onekopaka: Excellent, thanks
17:48:57 <mizmo> thanks stickster
17:49:39 <onekopaka> blogs topic?
17:49:45 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: nope
17:49:49 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: still the same no update
17:49:51 <hiemanshu> nb: ping
17:49:55 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: WRONG!
17:50:06 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: there's totally an update from sijis_afk
17:50:12 <onekopaka> #topic blogs.fpo
17:50:32 <hiemanshu> wow, how did i miss that!
17:50:34 <onekopaka> sijis_afk had left this txt file: http://sijis.fedorapeople.org/web-updates.txt
17:50:47 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: by losing power, I assume
17:51:04 <onekopaka> so he's working on HAProxy on pt16
17:51:33 <onekopaka> and he'll do a *graphical* document on HAProxy (the HAProxy docs are bad)
17:52:04 * hiemanshu was kept busy with personal stuff
17:52:23 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: like stiches in an arm.
17:52:29 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: lot more than that
17:52:42 <hiemanshu> 32 stitches can do no harm to /me
17:52:45 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: mhmm.
17:53:10 <onekopaka> #info 32 stitches can do "no harm" to hiemanshu
17:53:27 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: stop behaving your age!
17:53:31 <hiemanshu> said that before
17:53:38 <onekopaka> so
17:53:39 <nb> i need to work on documenting blogs more
17:53:56 <nb> i think i'll make a post on the front page and maybe a help or something telling people that you use your fas login, etc
17:53:58 * onekopaka failed at screencasts.
17:54:05 <nb> and to contact blogadmin-members if you have problems
17:54:10 <nb> .members blogadmin
17:54:12 <hiemanshu> onekopaka is a big L
17:54:14 * nb forgets if he added sijis
17:54:22 <nb> yeah
17:54:38 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: that's not very nice.
17:54:54 <hiemanshu> #info onekopaka failed at screencasts
17:54:56 <hiemanshu> :P
17:55:11 <nb> #info this meeting needs to regain focus on the subject at hand
17:55:24 <onekopaka> ORDER!
17:55:33 * onekopaka slams down a gavlin
17:55:37 <onekopaka> so
17:55:39 * nb thinks onekopaka means gavel
17:55:46 <onekopaka> nb: of course.
17:56:04 <onekopaka> so....
17:56:08 <hiemanshu> do we have anything else?
17:56:11 <nb> although if a gavlin is a cross between a gavel and a javelin it might be effective because people may think you might spear them with it if they do not listen
17:56:13 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: close to one hour mark
17:56:23 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: does it matter?
17:56:26 <hiemanshu> nb: whos going offtopic now
17:56:28 <onekopaka> nb: yes, it is!
17:56:37 * nb hides in fear
17:56:38 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: yup, ricky likes to close it within an hour usually
17:57:02 <hiemanshu> mizmo, nb : anything else?
17:57:05 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: well I don't! them FESco people go for over 2 hours
17:57:07 <nb> nope
17:57:14 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: Open Floor time
17:57:26 <onekopaka> #topic Open Floor
17:57:30 <mizmo> hiemanshu: not much else from me
17:57:32 <FergatROn> is there orientation for new websites folks?
17:57:38 <mizmo> im gonna work on more mocks this afternoon for the website
17:57:43 <FergatROn> Its great being in the meetings, but I'm lost. :D
17:57:45 <nb> FergatROn, well, not really, what kind of things are you itnerested in workin on
17:58:00 <nb> .fas (3) Oral or written or digitally signed email notice of a meeting of the
17:58:00 <nb> committee must be given by the secretary to each member of the
17:58:00 <nb> committee at least 48 hours (or such other period as many be
17:58:00 <nb> unanimously agreed on by the members of the committee) before
17:58:00 <nb> the time appointed for the holding of the meeting.
17:58:03 <onekopaka> #info mizmo going to work on more mockups for the website
17:58:06 <nb> oops crap i pasted something else in here
17:58:12 <FergatROn> I'm a backend developer, but I also do a lot of front-end work (usability, interface stuff)
17:58:13 <nb> .fas FergatROn
17:58:19 <nb> .fasinfo fergatron
17:58:30 <nb> have you cloned a copy of fedora-web?
17:58:33 <mizmo> FergatROn: usability/ui design is my specialty :)
17:58:42 <FergatROn> nb no
17:59:00 <FergatROn> mizmo: well any need for PHP developer?
17:59:10 <hiemanshu> FergatROn: not much
17:59:13 <nb> FergatROn, git clone ssh://fedorahosted.org/fedora-web.git i think
17:59:16 <mizmo> hiemanshu: actually not true
17:59:21 <mizmo> FergatROn: we do need PHP devels
17:59:23 <mizmo> FergatROn: for Zikula
17:59:30 <hiemanshu> mizmo: i have really seen much SO FAR
17:59:38 <hiemanshu> havent*
17:59:42 <nb> FergatROn, and blogs is php
17:59:43 <mizmo> FergatROn: i think Zikula is written in PHP and stickster was looking for a PHP developer to help with i
17:59:58 <onekopaka> yeah that Zikula thing
18:00:12 <nb> FergatROn, we are trying to figure out a way to make wordpress-mu play nice with ssl
18:00:14 <FergatROn> well I'm game stickster
18:00:16 <stickster> We do need PHP and JavaScript people to help, yes
18:00:26 <nb> sijis is working on that
18:00:30 <stickster> FergatROn: You can join the logistics list to sign on to help
18:00:36 * onekopaka likes PHP and JavaScript
18:00:44 <stickster> http://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics
18:00:54 <stickster> Introduce yourself and ask how you can help
18:01:08 <stickster> We have a list of some current issues here:  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula
18:01:27 * hiemanshu does PHP as well
18:01:29 <stickster> Some of the problems are already well defined and just need a couple hours of knowledgeable people's elbow grease to resolve
18:01:34 <FergatROn> awesome! I'll do that (this weekend probably).
18:01:48 <FergatROn> Other than developing, I kind of like documentation... weird, I know.
18:02:02 <FergatROn> so I luv me so wikis.
18:02:11 <FergatROn> some*
18:02:28 <onekopaka> that reminds me
18:02:40 <mizmo> is there anything anyone needs from me?
18:02:44 * onekopaka does cd Sites/mwtrunk && svn up
18:02:46 <mizmo> e.g., mockups gfx
18:03:11 <onekopaka> mizmo: not that I know of
18:03:21 <mizmo> kk
18:03:23 <FergatROn> not you mizmo , but will this log get posted in the mialing list? I plan on uploading it to the wiki later.
18:03:26 <mizmo> i have some time this afternoon which is why i ask
18:03:37 <mizmo> FergatROn: i think so
18:03:37 <hiemanshu> mizmo: if you could zip me the latest source files would be great
18:03:40 <nb> .fas Eric Christensen
18:03:40 <onekopaka> FergatROn: it's totally going on the mailing list
18:03:48 <mizmo> hiemanshu: there's only one source file for all the screens
18:03:48 <nb> .fainfo sparks
18:03:52 <nb> .fasinfo sparks
18:03:54 <mizmo> hiemanshu: it's the SVG i gave u the link to before
18:04:00 * nb supposes he could use /msg i forget about that
18:04:01 <hiemanshu> mizmo: ah ok
18:04:19 <nb> ianweller, ping
18:04:49 <mizmo> hiemanshu: i didn't use to do it that way but i think it's more convenient to have one source to work with
18:05:02 * hiemanshu nods
18:05:12 <hiemanshu> mizmo: MOST people dont work that way
18:05:27 <mizmo> yeh
18:05:33 <nb> hiemanshu, well, if she chooses to do so i don't think theres a problem?
18:05:40 <mizmo> it makes it easier to copy elements between screens if they're in the same file tho
18:05:47 <hiemanshu> nb: when did i say i have a problem :)
18:06:00 <nb> hiemanshu, well, using most in all caps i thought you were implying that
18:06:05 * hiemanshu agrees to mizmo
18:06:08 <FergatROn> ok folks. I gotta get back to work. Thanks for the meeting. I'll try and comb over it this weekend and wrap my tiny brain around it!
18:06:08 <mizmo> i started doing the same file because i was doing so much copying between the front page and get.fpo lol
18:06:21 <mizmo> thanks for stopping by FergatROn
18:06:25 <mizmo> look forward to working with ya :)
18:06:35 * FergatROn signing off! Zoooom! Same here mizmo
18:06:35 <hiemanshu> nb: i asked her for ALL source, and she said she did that in one file, and i most people dont do that way
18:06:48 <nb> hiemanshu, thats ok, nevermind
18:06:51 <mizmo> but most people dont use inkscape, they use photoshop as well ;-)
18:07:02 * mizmo someday will convince the designers of the world that inkscape kicks photoshops butt
18:07:28 <onekopaka> mizmo: it'll save them hundreds of dollards!
18:07:34 <onekopaka> dollars*
18:07:38 <hiemanshu> mizmo: yup
18:07:54 <hiemanshu> mizmo: Fedora+inkscape, the only path to heaven eh?
18:07:55 * onekopaka opens Inkscape on his *gasp* mac!
18:08:19 <onekopaka> wait, where is inkscape?
18:08:24 * onekopaka lost Inkscape
18:08:40 * onekopaka gets it
18:08:43 <mizmo> onekopaka: even thousands
18:08:47 <mizmo> hiemanshu: it is :)
18:08:54 <mizmo> inkscape => world peace
18:09:10 * onekopaka curses
18:09:14 <hiemanshu> do we have anything else left?
18:09:20 <onekopaka> I have to upgrade my X11 on my mac to run Inkscape
18:09:21 <stickster> onekopaka: Can I ask a question about the URL for the legal export notice?
18:09:21 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: endmeeting?
18:09:28 <onekopaka> stickster: yes
18:09:29 <hiemanshu> stickster: sure
18:09:35 <onekopaka> hiemanshu: not endmeeting.
18:09:44 <stickster> Someone noted that this was approved. Is there a URL link for the approval and who gave it?
18:09:47 <stickster> This is useful for later
18:10:26 <onekopaka> stickster: mizmo said it looked like what the lawyers want.
18:10:55 <mizmo> stickster: i had floated the idea by the lawyer via spot before and he replied saying it owuld be okay
18:10:56 <stickster> OK, so this hasn't specifically been approved by any legal eagles yet?
18:11:00 <mizmo> stickster: i can forward that mail to you if you want
18:11:05 <stickster> Oh yes, that would be great.
18:11:08 <mizmo> stickster: that mockup wasn't specifically approved but a tet description of it was
18:11:12 <mizmo> s/tet/text
18:11:26 <onekopaka> stickster: do you need the link again?
18:11:38 <stickster> onekopaka: I have sijis's URL above
18:11:46 <onekopaka> stickster: good.
18:11:47 <stickster> mizmo: OK, that helps
18:12:18 <stickster> mizmo: Can you forward to me and poelcat?
18:12:33 <mizmo> stickster: no prob, ill do that right now
18:13:43 <onekopaka> so anything else?
18:13:50 <hiemanshu> nope
18:14:28 <onekopaka> so the panda is totally going to be at least a visual aid for the visitors
18:14:36 <mizmo> panda!!!!!
18:15:05 <onekopaka> the panda already points stuff out on the page
18:15:31 * hiemanshu thinks a panda pointing with a bamboo would look better
18:15:52 <mizmo> hiemanshu: ahhh that's a great idea!
18:18:10 <onekopaka> #agreed The panda is here to stay to at least point stuff out with his bamboo
18:18:29 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: i think we can end
18:18:31 <onekopaka> so #endmeeting?
18:18:35 <hiemanshu> anyone got anything else?
18:18:50 <hiemanshu> onekopaka: no answer in next 30 secs means yes
18:19:35 <onekopaka> #endmeeting