20:02:06 <robyduck> #startmeeting
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20:02:21 <robyduck> #meetingname websites
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20:02:28 <robyduck> #topic Roll Call
20:02:45 * robyduck 
20:02:55 * croberts croberts
20:02:56 * asrob is here
20:03:01 <robyduck> so how many are around?
20:03:02 * croberts is here
20:03:38 <robyduck> ok, anyway, 4 topics I wanted to discuss and to organize
20:03:57 <robyduck> we don't have much time, and if you want to help would be great
20:04:08 <croberts> yeah sure
20:04:25 <robyduck> #topic F22 Beta websites
20:04:51 <robyduck> next thursday we have readiness meeting and most of the pages should be set at that point
20:05:13 <robyduck> f22-beta branch is where we code them
20:06:00 <robyduck> it shouldn't be too much work, we have set up a lot of variables which makes it very easy to move from Alpha to Beta
20:06:11 <robyduck> did you follow the procedure a bit for Alpha?
20:06:32 <asrob> no, I did not :(
20:06:55 <robyduck> ok, we need to work on getfedora.org and spins.fpo
20:07:05 <robyduck> both have prerelease pages
20:07:44 <robyduck> and both have global variables
20:08:26 <robyduck> the main work is in the ticket
20:08:41 <robyduck> .webticket 317
20:08:42 <zodbot> robyduck: #317 (Prepare webpages for F22 Beta release) – fedora-websites - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/317
20:08:49 <asrob> got it
20:08:52 <croberts> ok
20:10:01 <robyduck> if you want you can start working on it, but we're very close to dead line. We can also speak about that at the end
20:11:38 <robyduck> for beta we have another topic: Release Counter
20:12:09 <robyduck> normally we start with a countdown on the websites and also have an external release counter
20:12:35 <robyduck> it's the first time we are on getfedora for prerelease pages, and we actually don't have one
20:13:03 <croberts> robyduck: how much time do we have
20:13:30 <robyduck> well, normally we start with it about 20 days before GA
20:13:58 <robyduck> but we'd need to write a new script, test it and deploy it
20:14:25 <robyduck> Design team won't do the banners anymore
20:15:00 <robyduck> the thought was to have one single banner and overlay the remaining days with a python script
20:15:22 * robyduck is for dropping it for F22, we can do this again for F23
20:15:48 <robyduck> but if you have an idea or wnat to code it, you're welcome ^^
20:16:21 <robyduck> opinions?
20:18:12 <robyduck> well, then let's not plan with it for now
20:18:19 <asrob> well, I like that idea (single banner and overlay the remaining days with a script) but I don't know python
20:18:55 <robyduck> ok
20:19:17 <robyduck> anything else for beta?
20:19:28 <asrob> -
20:19:35 <robyduck> :)
20:20:15 <robyduck> deadline for Beta is clear, next thursday
20:20:29 <asrob> yeah, that's right
20:20:40 <robyduck> #info FInish most of Beta tasks within readiness meeting
20:21:02 <robyduck> let's move on
20:21:06 <asrob> okay
20:21:20 <robyduck> #topic Spins websites redesign
20:21:34 <robyduck> that's the main argument today
20:21:44 <robyduck> .webticket 315
20:21:45 <zodbot> robyduck: #315 (New website for Spins-ARM-Docker) – fedora-websites - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/315
20:22:01 <robyduck> branch is spins-redesign
20:23:29 <robyduck> so, let me say two things here
20:23:50 <robyduck> spins.fpo actually is very confusing, content is old and we have ARM and docker there
20:24:25 <robyduck> we added also prerelease pages....
20:24:55 <robyduck> the idea is to split the content
20:25:16 <robyduck> we want to redesign spins.fpo and keep the subdomain
20:25:37 <robyduck> and we'd like to have a new website, a name could be labs.fpo
20:26:01 <robyduck> Desktop Spins (like KDE, Xfce...) would go under spins.fpo
20:26:28 <robyduck> while the functional spins (security, games...) will be under labs.fpo
20:26:44 <asrob> okay
20:27:00 <robyduck> ARM and even more Docker are not so hard to do, they don't need too much work, and will live also under labs.fpo
20:27:25 <robyduck> both websites will be modern and mobile friendly
20:27:44 <robyduck> same as for getfedora and start.fpo (bootstrap)
20:28:20 <robyduck> we don't have much time and the first website we want to work on is spins.fpo
20:29:25 <robyduck> I'm saying "we" because I also mean design team. Mo did some nice mockups and my idea is to work very close with SIGs to get a good text content
20:29:49 <robyduck> is it all clear for now? any questions?
20:30:39 <robyduck> asrob: croberts ?
20:30:55 <asrob> it's clear for me
20:31:02 <robyduck> fine :)
20:31:40 <robyduck> we are using a design repo to get the mockups
20:31:48 <robyduck> https://github.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins
20:32:25 <robyduck> these are done for spins.fpo
20:32:46 <robyduck> the main index would be something like this
20:32:58 <robyduck> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins/master/desktops/mockupv1.1.png
20:33:46 <robyduck> just show the screenshots of the Desktop Spins and link them to the $SPIN specific page
20:34:02 <robyduck> the screenshots fade in and out as soon as you scroll down
20:34:29 <robyduck> this should be easy, because we don't need any JS here. Can be done with CSS
20:34:47 <asrob> cool :)
20:35:08 <robyduck> the header is very similar to getfedora.org
20:35:13 <robyduck> the footer is the same
20:35:47 <robyduck> The basic idea for the spins pages is to have a template we can use for all
20:36:24 <robyduck> so every single $SPIN will have the same page, but I know not every spin will have all contents, but anyway
20:36:34 <asrob> that is a good idea
20:36:46 <robyduck> yeah, it makes it much easier
20:36:50 <robyduck> a complete tremplate is the one we have for KDE
20:37:02 <robyduck> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins/master/desktops/spins-mockup_spin-detailsv1.0.png
20:38:06 <robyduck> the structure is very easy to code with bootstrap, Some icons are fontawesome
20:39:22 <asrob> yes, it looks great
20:40:01 <robyduck> finally, also the download page can be a sort of template
20:40:13 <robyduck> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins/master/desktops/spins-mockup_spin-downloadv1.0.png
20:40:40 <robyduck> but I'm not for adding torrent files here
20:40:55 <robyduck> we dont' have them in getfedora, let's be consistent
20:41:06 <asrob> sure
20:41:39 <robyduck> same as above, thsi page is very similar to getfedora, so we have most of the code
20:41:48 <robyduck> s/thsi/this
20:42:36 <robyduck> opinions?
20:43:23 * robyduck likes them very much, they are not confusing and easy to navigate.
20:44:20 <asrob> I like it and it is good that we have most of the code therefore we can code them easily
20:44:58 <robyduck> yeah, mostly. It will not be easy to get it all done but we can make it
20:45:16 <asrob> :)
20:45:45 <robyduck> the best would be to get spins.fpo finished by max 25th of this months
20:45:50 <robyduck> month*
20:45:58 <robyduck> so, 20 days
20:46:35 <robyduck> the other 20 days we will code labs.fpo and the F22 final webpages :D
20:46:41 <asrob> :)
20:46:46 <robyduck> lol
20:47:11 <robyduck> I don't know if these deadlines are reasonable, but I'd like to try it
20:47:14 <asrob> I hope I will have enough time to help you
20:47:24 <robyduck> mmhh
20:47:40 * robyduck hopes to have many people working on it
20:48:03 <robyduck> croberts: still here?
20:48:59 <robyduck> asrob: I think spins.fpo can be done within 20 days, I'm not sure about the content, but anyway.
20:49:32 <asrob> yeah, +1
20:49:35 <robyduck> We have 5 Desktop Spins, we have quite a bit of code available from getfedora.org
20:50:04 <robyduck> this should be not so hard
20:50:56 <robyduck> #topic Working Plan
20:51:12 <robyduck> seems we are just 2 right now
20:51:33 <robyduck> but I'm sure people will read the log and join us
20:51:55 <robyduck> asrob: do you like to work on one of these projects?
20:52:10 <asrob> sure
20:52:21 <robyduck> (I'd say we can speak about final websites and labs.fpo in 2-3 weeks)
20:52:29 <robyduck> which?
20:52:31 <robyduck> Both?
20:52:38 <asrob> yes, both
20:52:43 <robyduck> \o/
20:53:01 <asrob> just give me some tickets where I can start :)
20:53:30 <robyduck> asrob: tickets are just 2
20:54:04 <robyduck> you can just start. We have a websites SOP which I'm rewriting slowly
20:54:21 <robyduck> asrob: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins/master/desktops/spins-mockup_spin-downloadv1.0.png
20:54:25 <asrob> those ones you said before?
20:54:27 <robyduck> hmm, wrong
20:54:35 <robyduck> yeah
20:54:39 <robyduck> 315 and 317
20:54:41 <robyduck> https://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/infra/docs/fedorawebsites.txt
20:54:57 <robyduck> what you see for Alpha is mostly valid for Beta too
20:55:03 <asrob> okay
20:55:45 <robyduck> asrob: if you want to start on beta, I can clean up spins.fpo and prepare the directory to start working
20:56:03 <asrob> that would be good, thanks :)
20:56:11 <robyduck> cool
20:57:10 <robyduck> the steps in the SOP should be clear, you can follow them. If you have questions just ask here
20:57:57 <asrob> got it
20:58:40 <robyduck> cool
20:58:59 <robyduck> any other things? Doubts? Proposals?
20:59:20 <asrob> not yet
20:59:41 <robyduck> #info robyduck to clean up spins.fpo in the spins-redesign branch to start working
21:00:12 <robyduck> #info asrob starts moving Alpha websites to F22 Beta
21:02:25 <robyduck> ok then let's not make it too long, if people are reading the minutes just jump into #fedora-websites if you like to help
21:02:40 <robyduck> asrob: croberts thanks for coming
21:02:59 <robyduck> #endmeeting