12:03:54 <CyrusYzGTt> #startmeeting
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12:04:15 <CyrusYzGTt> #chair kaio
12:04:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: CyrusYzGTt kaio
12:05:03 <kaio> CyrusYzGTt: 我今天腦子不轉，找 liangsuilong , hers 主持。
12:05:15 <CyrusYzGTt> #chair kaio liangsuilong hers
12:05:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: CyrusYzGTt hers kaio liangsuilong
12:05:38 <CyrusYzGTt> kaio§ 嗯，我只负责开会议。。。
12:05:41 <kaio> Aurelie 加入了郵件列表。
12:06:11 <kaio> CyrusYzGTt: 好的。我盡力放主題。
12:06:47 <kaio> 誰有東西想聊？microcai 聊下你最近的內核補丁？
12:06:51 <CyrusYzGTt> kaio§ 对了，我进来工作。。很少上bbs了。。。有什么新的帖子吗？
12:07:01 <lovenemesis> hi all
12:07:29 <kaio> CyrusYzGTt: 我稍後會調調 bbs。
12:07:38 <kaio> lovenemesis: 黑大早
12:07:54 <microcai> kaio: 好啊
12:08:06 <lovenemesis> kaio: k 兄好~
12:08:11 <CyrusYzGTt> kaio§ 是不是，合并，还是删除某个版块？
12:08:24 <microcai> kaio: 我已经提交到 官方了
12:09:05 <microcai> but , stpid alen cox < --- 这个家伙很讨厌
12:09:16 <microcai> 非要说user-space .....
12:10:17 <lovenemesis> microcai: 可否讲下将 UTF-8 做入 kernel 的好处和可能的负面影响呢？
12:10:38 <microcai> lovenemesis:  ... .. 没有负面影响
12:10:47 <microcai> lovenemesis: 好处有一些
12:11:04 <lovenemesis> 比如？
12:11:15 <Robin_cheese_Lee> 能支持其它多字节语言吗？
12:11:29 <microcai> lovenemesis: ubuntu 的 console 不像 fedora , 会和桌面一个 locale 的
12:11:41 <microcai> Robin_cheese_Lee: 支持到 UNIOCDE 的 BMP
12:11:54 <kaio> CyrusYzGTt: 板塊先不大改，外觀上。
12:12:06 <microcai> Robin_cheese_Lee: 基本全支持了
12:12:18 <lovenemesis> microcai: 呃……我瞬间明白了
12:12:20 <microcai> Robin_cheese_Lee: 支持 UNICODE .....
12:12:33 <microcai> lovenemesis: GOOD
12:12:42 <Robin_cheese_Lee> 字体来源呢？
12:12:44 <CyrusYzGTt> kaio§ 额～我审美观有点问题，，不作讨论
12:12:54 <microcai> Robin_cheese_Lee: 可以手工生成的
12:13:05 <microcai> Robin_cheese_Lee: 用文泉驿字体生成
12:13:10 <CyrusYzGTt> microcai§ 不会是用 gnu font还是 wqy-系列
12:13:42 <microcai> 。。 。。 CyrusYzGTt 字体不是我生成的
12:13:51 <microcai> CyrusYzGTt: 是 youbest
12:13:56 <Robin_cheese_Lee> 字体上能否与现有的ASCII字体协调？
12:14:10 <microcai> Robin_cheese_Lee: 完全协调
12:14:26 <Robin_cheese_Lee> 这次官方会接受吗？
12:14:28 <CyrusYzGTt> microcai§ 哦，能混解编码吗？
12:14:34 <microcai> ASCII 部分的字体我是直接使用系统原有 的 VGA 8x16 字体
12:14:48 <microcai> CyrusYzGTt:  嘛意思？
12:15:42 <liangsuilong> microcai, 26.38 会进入 mainline？XD
12:15:47 <liangsuilong> 2.6.38
12:16:10 <Robin_cheese_Lee> 支持GBK等其它编码吗？
12:16:13 <CyrusYzGTt> microcai§ 就是能在控制台下，用vim打开的文档，里面有big5 gbk
12:16:14 <microcai> liangsuilong: 我争取 .. 正在和大牛们发邮件争论
12:16:29 <microcai> CyrusYzGTt:  VIM 会自动转码到 UTF-8 显示的
12:16:31 <liangsuilong> kaio 兄，管理员 digest 有点提问
12:16:40 <microcai> CyrusYzGTt:  这个没问题
12:17:02 <microcai> Robin_cheese_Lee: vim , emacs 都支持自动转码显示
12:17:15 <CyrusYzGTt> microcai§ 可是我在root下用vim，没有反应，反而是乱码，，而home能
12:17:38 <microcai> 。。。 。。。 CyrusYzGTt 自动编码转换需要配置的 ... ....
12:17:42 <Robin_cheese_Lee> 我指系统可以用GBK编码吗？不仅限于文件编码
12:17:51 <liangsuilong> 在待处理列表里部分内容会是一堆英文字母或者乱码，未必能够有效判断内容是否有问题
12:17:55 <microcai> 。。。 。。。 CyrusYzGTt  STOP ...  vim 不是我讨论的内容
12:17:58 <CyrusYzGTt> microcai§ ...我还是希望默认，，，，
12:18:11 <CyrusYzGTt> microcai§ 好，继续kernel
12:18:15 <Robin_cheese_Lee> emacs会自动检测编码
12:18:18 <kaio> microcai: Alan Cox 是名人。 :)
12:19:04 <microcai> kaio:  有名的吵架专家
12:19:48 <liangsuilong> microcai, Cox 不算吧。。Linus 这个 bullshit 王还在呢
12:19:51 <CyrusYzGTt> #chair kaio liangsuilong hers microcai lovenemesis
12:19:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: CyrusYzGTt hers kaio liangsuilong lovenemesis microcai
12:20:17 <liangsuilong> kaio 在吗？看到我发的意见吗？
12:20:24 <liangsuilong> 额。。是建议
12:22:25 <liangsuilong> 囧，我来了其他人都闪了？
12:22:46 <Robin_cheese_Lee> liangsuilong: 顶下
12:23:28 <microcai> 。。。
12:23:29 <liangsuilong> microcai 还是不太明白和以前的 UTF-8 补丁有神马不同
12:23:31 <microcai> 糟糕
12:23:34 <CyrusYzGTt> #chair kaio liangsuilong hers microcai lovenemesis
12:23:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: CyrusYzGTt hers kaio liangsuilong lovenemesis microcai
12:23:41 <microcai> 怎么老断网
12:23:46 <microcai> GFW 升级ing ?
12:23:49 <kaio> liangsuilong: 我也發現亂碼問題..
12:24:16 <CyrusYzGTt> microcai§ 用ipv6或者。。。自己找代理上
12:24:33 <liangsuilong> kaio 不一定是乱码，有时候是一堆英文字母，审核过了就会发中文出来，貌似邮件没有加密过
12:24:37 <CyrusYzGTt> microcai§ 用ipv6或者。。。自己找代理上
12:24:50 <kaio> liangsuilong: 有看到你的建議
12:25:02 <kaio> liangsuilong: 在看 Zohan..
12:25:30 <Achrg> Hi !
12:25:33 <microcai> liangsuilong:  .. 额
12:25:39 <Robin_cheese_Lee> Achrg: Hi
12:25:46 <microcai> liangsuilong: 被我骂了，乱动路由器
12:25:48 <kaio> (註：會議正在記錄中）
12:26:33 <kaio> Achrg: (microcai : liangsuilong: scolded my me, by messing with router)
12:26:37 <liangsuilong> microcai 能介绍一下你的补丁和冲天飞豹的补丁有什么不同
12:26:45 <kaio> Achrg: how much Chinese you could read?
12:26:54 <microcai> liangsuilong: 改自豹哥的补丁
12:27:02 <microcai> liangsuilong: 不同的地方：
12:27:21 <liangsuilong> ？
12:27:31 <microcai> liangsuilong: 豹哥的补丁没有考虑其实非 ascii 字符也是可以半角的
12:27:36 <microcai> liangsuilong: 我修正了
12:27:37 <Achrg> kaio: not so much but that's fine if they speak slow :)
12:28:00 <microcai> liangsuilong: 还有，他的补丁很多地方代码重复而不加以修整，我改了一下
12:28:19 <liangsuilong> 呃，它的是初步实现
12:28:36 <microcai> liangsuilong: 最后，最重要的是：他的补丁是蛮力的添加了中文字体到头文件中去了， 很大的头文件
12:28:41 <kaio> 介紹一下 Achrg 就是來自法國的 mm。 Aurelie.
12:28:58 <Robin_cheese_Lee> MM？！
12:29:00 <liangsuilong> 然后可以用 kaio 的 ibus-fbterm 在终端里输入中文了
12:29:25 <microcai> liangsuilong: 而我则是扩展了 fbcon 原先就存在的 VGA font 体系
12:29:31 <kaio> liangsuilong: ibus-fbterm is maintained by dingyichen now.
12:29:42 <microcai> kaio: ? what ?? killer feature ....
12:30:20 <microcai> A
12:30:37 <kaio> Achrg: (They are discussing about microcai's kernel patch for UTF-8 support)
12:30:40 <microcai> Achrg: ？？？ 你是奥周人
12:30:49 <microcai> kaio: UNICODE ....
12:31:00 <microcai> kaio: UTF-8 already supported by kernel
12:31:01 <Achrg> kaio: yes i know :) that's enough slow for me ;)
12:31:03 <kaio> microcai: 她是法國人。
12:32:04 <microcai> kaio: just add UNICODE font support , see http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1337115/cjkfont.png
12:32:13 <liangsuilong> ok..switch to English mode. I can not speak French.
12:32:14 <microcai> 添加了编译选项
12:32:29 <microcai> liangsuilong:  ??? .. 你是 gcell 吧
12:33:34 <liangsuilong> microcai, nope, I am liangsuilong
12:33:53 <microcai> liangsuilong:  .. ... ... gcell 怎么没来
12:34:07 <kaio> liangsuilong: say bonjour ! :)
12:34:24 <microcai> Linux的二号功臣-Alan Cox ....
12:34:26 <microcai> 我囧
12:34:32 <microcai> 和老二吵架了 .....
12:34:36 <liangsuilong> kaio..what is bonjour?
12:34:38 <kaio> microcai: 老二 xd
12:34:59 <kaio> 第一號功臣也很會深入討論的
12:35:01 <Achrg> liangsuilong: means hello ;)
12:35:24 <Achrg> no no speak in chinese aha that's fine
12:35:28 <Achrg> (for me)
12:35:43 <liangsuilong> microcai, 老二不是 novell 那个 greg...吗?
12:35:49 <Achrg> just wanted to say hi to all of you before going to univ :)
12:36:11 <microcai> liangsuilong:  ... ... 额 不知道啊
12:36:14 <liangsuilong> Achrg Could you speak a little Chinese?
12:36:24 <lovenemesis> Achrg: greetings
12:36:38 <microcai> liangsuilong: 反正 alen cox 发贴量灰常高，几乎每个帖子都回
12:36:47 <microcai> liangsuilong: 看来很喜欢政治斗争么
12:36:59 <Achrg> liangsuilong: I can understand and read a little bit but its harder to speak (I know that sucks :( )
12:37:07 <kaio> Achrg: we have non-chinese-typing persons here such as gbraad, kital, mchua_afk, etc.
12:37:35 <Achrg> lovenemesis: Hi
12:37:44 <microcai> liangsuilong:  http://www.schoenitzer.de/lkh/Greg_Kroah-Hartman_1.jpg 你说的老二是这个 .....
12:37:49 <Robin_cheese_Lee> Achrg: Hi
12:37:58 <liangsuilong> kaio, Can not mchua_afk understand Chinese?
12:38:09 <Achrg> Robin_cheese_Lee: Hi
12:38:21 <lovenemesis> Achrg: you can speak English if you like. that's not a problem for most of us. :)
12:39:01 <lovenemesis> Achrg: I wish I know a little French :P
12:39:07 <microcai> liangsuilong:  http://www.schoenitzer.de/lkh/small/MarceloTosatti_small.jpg  这个大牛是女的？@！
12:39:07 <alick> Achrg: bonjour
12:39:21 <lovenemesis> liangsuilong: maybe a little
12:39:31 <microcai> Achrg: .. my 2nd language is french ....
12:39:55 <CyrusYzGTt> #chair kaio liangsuilong hers microcai lovenemesis tiansworld
12:39:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: CyrusYzGTt hers kaio liangsuilong lovenemesis microcai tiansworld
12:39:58 <Achrg> microcai: Great!
12:40:03 <microcai> Achrg: ^_^ , just kbd sucks . unable to type franch ...
12:40:27 <Achrg> lovenemesis: Yes I prefer but keep talking in chinese I can understand :p I can learn to read better aha :p
12:40:43 <alick> gtalk上有各种翻译机器人
12:40:53 <microcai> zodbot: will you please shut up ! dam bot
12:41:02 <liangsuilong> Achrg, If you go back to university, Won't you be on the Internet?
12:41:09 <microcai> Achrg: 好
12:41:09 <Achrg> microcai: I don't believe u ;) Hope I'll be able to understand and speak chinese as u
12:41:48 <lovenemesis> Achrg: may I know which time zone are you in?
12:41:55 <liangsuilong> 每次 MeaCulpa 上线我都以为是 Mel Chua
12:42:04 <microcai> Achrg:  .. .. I major in English .. and every student must learn 2nd *** , so l select franch
12:42:05 <Achrg> liangsuilong: I can bring my laptop yes :p but it takes me 40 min to be there so I don't know if you guys will still be on freenode
12:42:25 <Achrg> lovenemesis: same as NYC
12:42:29 <microcai> Achrg:  I'll be here
12:42:45 <Achrg> microcai: Nice :)
12:42:51 <lovenemesis> Achrg: get an IRC app on your mobile. :-D
12:43:04 <lovenemesis> Achrg: oh, I see. :)
12:43:22 <kaio> liangsuilong: I think mchua_afk could understand substantial Chinese
12:43:22 <Achrg> lovenemesis: is that possible on the itouch ? :p
12:44:04 <lovenemesis> Achrg: As long as you have WiFi connection  in class. :P
12:44:26 <Achrg> lovenemesis: Greaat :p
12:44:42 <liangsuilong> kaio, 还是等 lovenemesis 黑兄表演。。
12:45:24 <kaio> member:liangsuilong
12:45:24 <kaio> :
12:45:24 <kaio> 每次 member:MeaCulpa 上线我都以为是 Mel Chua # kaio ++
12:45:37 <lovenemesis> liangsuilong: thanks for that
12:46:03 <kaio> microcai: that is called 3rd language then. Your first language is Chinese. :P
12:46:19 <microcai> kaio:  my first language is madaren
12:46:21 <liangsuilong> Achrg, Are your classmates or friends interested in Linux?
12:46:32 <lovenemesis> liangsuilong: i guess it's safe to leave French translation work to microcai :)
12:46:45 <microcai> kaio:  chinese is ... say ,what guangdong people say
12:46:50 <liangsuilong> microcai, Mine is Cantonese. XD
12:46:53 <alick> microcai: 粤语？
12:47:00 <microcai> alick: yep
12:47:17 <Achrg> liangsuilong: depending on the people ... actually i try to convert them to linuc :p
12:47:26 <kaio> "Chinese" officially now means "Mandarin"
12:47:28 <Achrg> liangsuilong: linux
12:47:30 <liangsuilong> microcai, Cantonese will speak Cantonese. XD
12:48:03 <Robin_cheese_Lee> cantonese+1
12:48:06 <microcai> kaio mandarin ... :)
12:48:24 <Achrg> kaio: yes i heard that as well
12:48:30 <microcai> kaio:  mandarin 意思是满大人 ... 就是满族大人说的话
12:49:42 <liangsuilong> Achrg, er..Do you successfully convert one guy to Linux?
12:50:08 <Achrg> liangsuilong: more than one ;)
12:50:54 <lovenemesis> nice scores~
12:51:28 <alick> 看来我是转了几个半成品啊，:) 双系统的
12:52:38 <lovenemesis> i got A LOT converted to firefox :-D
12:53:43 <Achrg> liangsuilong: Ok i just got irc on my itouch let see if it works :p
12:54:34 <liangsuilong> er..
12:56:36 <liangsuilong> Achrg, er..It is quite hard to convert a girl to linux.
12:57:09 <Achrg> liangsuilong: Yea of course but I am studying in mathematics ... and there is a majority of boy :p
12:58:18 <liangsuilong> er..I am quite interested in the reason why you love Linux. Because of a cute Tux?
12:58:29 <Achrg> liangsuilong: Actually you just need to show them the fedora goodies and most of them accept to try :p
12:58:44 <tiansworld> hi all
12:59:27 <Robin_cheese_Lee> tiansworld: Hi
12:59:57 <lovenemesis> tiansworld: hi bro
13:00:23 <tiansworld> Robin_cheese_Lee, hi, first see you here XD
13:00:31 <tiansworld> lovenemesis, hi :D
13:00:46 <liangsuilong> Maybe in France or in the whole Euorpe there is a few problem to help them try to Linux, not just Fedora.
13:01:39 <liangsuilong> But in China, a lot of things stop them, such as online bank, online games and some e-shop.
13:02:09 <kaio> Achrg: I hope Fedora has some mascot, like firefox -> foxkeh, or the chameleon of suse.
13:02:39 <microcai> hey
13:02:42 <Achrg> liangsuilong: Yes ... that's harder in China but it's a challenge to try to convince people to use fedora ;)
13:02:51 <microcai> 怎么噤声了
13:02:58 <alick> 话说redhat的logo就是。。。
13:03:03 <Achrg> Achrg: Great idea !!! Has someone try to developp this idea ?
13:03:17 <lovenemesis> alick: well, it's not a mascot
13:03:33 <microcai> Achrg: and also my CJK patch ....
13:03:38 <Achrg> hey guys i got to go
13:03:43 <Achrg> i'll try to connect in class
13:03:46 <Achrg> if the wifi works
13:03:50 <Achrg> in that class :p
13:05:34 <alick> lovenemesis: oh i missed that
13:06:12 <achrg> See u
13:09:55 <kaio> alick: 你不能叫帽出來然後人人覺得可愛...
13:10:50 <alick> kaio: 什么意思？没看明白？是说mascot么？
13:11:04 <liangsuilong> kaio 有只 tux 挺可爱的
13:11:19 <alick> 还有人玩typespeed么？我想联网试一试:)
13:12:20 <alick> 让tux带顶帽子？
13:12:34 <kaio> liangsuilong: 我不覺得 tux 可愛...
13:12:34 <alick> 唉，估计也不好看
13:12:54 <liangsuilong> kaio。。
13:13:01 <kaio> 再 tux 不是 fedora 的
13:13:29 <liangsuilong> kaio, 发行版挺难找吉祥物的
13:13:31 <alick> 好像主流生物差不多都被用过了
13:13:50 <kaio> 再 tux 戴帽子代表，是 fedora 反對的
13:13:59 <liangsuilong> 看来亚运会中国代表团挺有可能是 199 块金牌
13:14:07 <kaio> liangsuilong: 找就有，設計就有。
13:14:07 <liangsuilong> kaio, 为什么会反对的呢？
13:17:55 <kaio> liangsuilong: 要求保持商標一致性
13:18:10 <microcai> fs/aufs/branch.c:859 这里有错误了... 为何？
13:24:51 <tiansworld> liuhongdan, hi
13:25:06 <liuhongdan> tiansworld: 晚上好啊
13:25:41 <CyrusYzGTt> #chair kaio liangsuilong hers microcai lovenemesis tiansworld liuhongdan
13:25:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: CyrusYzGTt hers kaio liangsuilong liuhongdan lovenemesis microcai tiansworld
13:25:52 <tiansworld> liuhongdan, 晚上好，你比我还晚。给热闹了会，现在又静悄悄了
13:26:07 <microcai> ... ...
13:26:08 <kaio> 在看電視。xxd
13:26:11 <microcai> #chair
13:26:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: CyrusYzGTt hers kaio liangsuilong liuhongdan lovenemesis microcai tiansworld
13:26:17 <microcai> 真少
13:26:21 <microcai> 就那么几个人
13:26:23 <liuhongdan> 噻，这次搞这么多chair
13:26:27 <microcai> 而且都加 -v 了
13:26:28 <CyrusYzGTt> #chair kaio liangsuilong hers microcai lovenemesis tiansworld liuhongdan microcai
13:26:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: CyrusYzGTt hers kaio liangsuilong liuhongdan lovenemesis microcai tiansworld
13:26:29 <kaio> 這麼多椅子做甚麼。xd
13:26:57 <liuhongdan> 这么多椅子，一会好开完会把椅子搬走 :-)
13:27:03 <tiansworld> kaio, 看袋鼠国娱乐节目？XD
13:27:50 <kaio> 美國電影 Zohan
13:28:56 <CyrusYzGTt> svn update && make BASEDIR=$HOME/LFS/location2 更新 BLFS 的软件包
13:29:01 <kaio> 某域名公司 30% off
13:31:18 <lovenemesis> 今天没主题啊
13:31:41 <CyrusYzGTt> 如过没有主题就关闭会议记录
13:33:40 <lovenemesis> 关吧……
13:33:46 <CyrusYzGTt> #endmeeting